Thor, Silver Surfer, WWH, Juggernaut Vs Cap Marvel, Supes, Doomsday, Diana

Originally posted by darthgoober
Thor's moved faster than the human eye could follow on a couple of occasions, does that mean that anyone who's ever tagged him can tag people who're moving faster than the eye can follow?

Mouth hole...

Surfer knows tragectory like no one else on Earth and dodges stuff like asteroids while moving at traveling speeds(not to mention keeping track of all the stars that are wizzing by) so he doesn't really have to slow down to be precise.

What makes you think that surfer is faster than supes? I mean both are FTL characters, and both traverse Galaxys. I would put their speed about equal if nothing else. SO what is to stop superman from intercepting a bullrushing surfer?

I think Captain Marvel has FTL speed as well, if I'm not mistaken. He's at least as fast as Diana, if not faster.

Originally posted by Mindship
No-CIS/PIS open-powersetted Thor and Surfer is very bad news. Juggernaut keeps Cap Marvel busy while WWH keeps (DoS?) Doomsday busy, each long enough for Thor or Surfer to neutralize Superman with weakness-exploitation (the other keeping WW at bay), then double-team Diana out.

I see T1 as taking this.

why would Cap even need to engage Juggs? he could just leave the non flying s.o.b's sitting twiddling ther thumbs until he/if he takes the real threats down.

The REAL fight is..

Superman + Captain Marvel vs Surfer
and Thor vs Fully Geared Wonderwoman. Thor will have his hands more than full, and Surfer wont be getting any breathing space, not 1 bit, since this is CISless how can he exploit anyones weakness under a CONSTANT barrage of shots from such heavy hitters as Supes and Cap Marv?

Pretty much any strike Diana lands will either be fatal or seriously close to it. Diana's base strength and stamina is comparable to the rest of her team. Multiplied by x10 with the weapons she's packing? Fuggetaboutit.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Because everytime Thor goes up against Supes, WW or Flash he seems to get blitzed. With no room for action.

It basically comes down to whether you think surfer and classic thor can take down supes, cap marvel, and WW. I don't know. Surfer is by far the most powerful on the field, I just don't know how it would go with 2 on 3. I would give this fight an even split.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What? The Surfer is also here to make mincemeat of Superman.

Pretty much, SS will one shot Supes with a fine dose of Red sun or use his CA to find out what he is lethal to (i.e. k-nite).

Since BFR is still a option Thor will send his enemies straight to some empty wasteland.

Something to mention, SS should be able to manipulate the gama levels of the Hulk.

IMO Versatility and greater than speed and power.

Team 2 8/10

Originally posted by Juk3n
why would Cap even need to engage Juggs? he could just leave the non flying s.o.b's sitting twiddling ther thumbs until he/if he takes the real threats down.

The REAL fight is..

Superman + Captain Marvel vs Surfer
and Thor vs Fully Geared Wonderwoman. Thor will have his hands more than full, and Surfer wont be getting any breathing space, not 1 bit, since this is CISless how can he exploit anyones weakness under a CONSTANT barrage of shots from such heavy hitters as Supes and Cap Marv?

My impression of non-CIS/PIS Surfer or Thor is that--with their open powersets--you have top-tier capability in matter/energy/space manipulation as well as in brute force. Thor is no slouch in close-quarter combat; and while Surfer may not be as quick in h2h, he is sufficiently fast and maneuverable in open-quarters.

If the IS's were on, then I could see T2 ftw, because Diana with all her gear is kinda like a non-CIS Diana.

Originally posted by snyper1982
It basically comes down to whether you think surfer and classic thor can take down supes, cap marvel, and WW. I don't know. Surfer is by far the most powerful on the field, I just don't know how it would go with 2 on 3. I would give this fight an even split.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Pretty much, SS will one shot Supes with a fine dose of Red sun or use his CA to find out what he is lethal to (i.e. k-nite).

Since BFR is still a option Thor will send his enemies straight to some empty wasteland.

Something to mention, SS should be able to manipulate the gama levels of the Hulk.

IMO Versatility and greater than speed and power.

I forgot Full gear for WW.... hmmm Wonder if the team can share her equipment, that could be interesting. I mean CIS is off but i wonder if the threadstarter intended for that...

WWH and Juggernaut were replaced with Apocalypse and Terrax a few pages back.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor is the most powerful here followed by the Surfer. Sounds good to me.

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Team 2 for high majority btw.

Diana is, physically, strongest and most durable here under these circumstances.

TEN times as durable and strong as her normal incarnation. I don't think anybody here can handle her up close. Sword of H is just a ridiculous advantage. She's the real threat on team 2.

Surfer has the most energy output on either team, but idk if it's going to keep Diana out of range. I would see her going for Surfer first and let Kal engage Thor while Cap and Doomsday take the land based Marvel characters.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor is the most powerful here followed by the Surfer. Sounds good to me.

This is classic thor, not current. Surfer is the most powerful on the field easily.

Originally posted by Mindship
WWH leaps and tackles Cap outta the sky, saying, "Maybe I let Juggs fight Boneface, and I keep you here."

Interesting assessment. But no, Hulk ain't tagging anyone here even when they are asleep.

Doomsday, WWH and Juggernaut can bash each other senseless, it doesn't really matter.

Then like someone said earlier, it'd be Supes and Cpt Marvel vs Surfer. Surfer would put up a decent fight, but still go down decisively.

And Wonder Woman /w gear vs Thor. Nuff said.

Now lets sit back and watch the Marvel fanboys argue their way out of this one.

Originally posted by Konton
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Team 2 for high majority btw.

Diana is, physically, strongest and most durable here under these circumstances.

TEN times as durable and strong as her normal incarnation. I don't think anybody here can handle her up close. Sword of H is just a ridiculous advantage. She's the real threat on team 2.

Surfer has the most energy output on either team, but idk if it's going to keep Diana out of range. I would see her going for Surfer first and let Kal engage Thor while Cap and Doomsday take the land based Marvel characters.

Finally. Someone who read the stipulations lol.

The ONLY person who is a threat to Diana under these circumstances is Surfer. She is by far the strongest person on the field. She is the most durable and has the fastest reflexes. No one is beating her up close. No one. Add in the sword and it's a stomp against anyone who tries to get close to her.

I don't see Diana going after Surfer though. I'm not sure if his CA would identify Diana's gear and let him know that she is the main threat on Team 2. She also doesn't have an easily identifiable weakness like Superman that he could exploit. (Surfer is definitely going after Clark). Diana is most likely to go after Thor as she is familiar with the Asgardian gods. I don't think any of the heroes will care about Doomsday down on the ground by himself, so it will likely come down to . . .

SS vs CM + Supes - team
Thor vs WW - WW
Juggs + WWH vs Doomsday - Team

Then you'd have Supes, WW & CM against WWH and Juggs and DC wipes them up quickly.

[I know the TC changed teams but no one seems to be paying attention to that lol. DC would still win handily against Apoc and Terrax. Marvel does have a better shot here though and the way they would win is if Thor AND Surfer went after WW and through every exotic trick in the book at her to bring her down. Terrax and Apoc would ignore Doomsday and try to keep Supes and Cap busy until WW goes down. I see that happening 1-2 times.]

Originally posted by Placidity

Now lets sit back and watch the Marvel fanboys argue their way out of this one.

Oh, they're coming. Don't you worry 😆

Originally posted by Placidity
Interesting assessment. But no, Hulk ain't tagging anyone here even when they are asleep.

Doomsday, WWH and Juggernaut can bash each other senseless, it doesn't really matter.

Then like someone said earlier, it'd be Supes and Cpt Marvel vs Surfer. Surfer would put up a decent fight, but still go down decisively.

And Wonder Woman /w gear vs Thor. Nuff said.

Now lets sit back and watch the Marvel fanboys argue their way out of this one.

I agree the flightless guys don't matter much. (until SS decides to easily amp hulk with a hefty dose of gamma)

Whoever said that earlier forgot that superman has easily exploitable weaknesses. what makes you think Surfer can't one shot supes in the 1st split second of starting the match???? SS can also pull Cap into the astral plane and **** him up there.

It would be Captain & Diana Fighting Thor and SS. Also THor has easy bfr options. Or do you think the sheer speed and strength is greater than all the advantages and versatility of Thor and SS combined???

Diana gets Bfred with a small gesture, nuff said 😄

Well that was easy to "argue out of that one" 😱

The Marvel Fanboys aint commin cause this be a Speed Spite thread.
SS can take either Supes or WW out. But not both. When two ground warriors were put on the Marvel team this one was decided. WWH would try punching DD for awhile but would soon realise crushing his bones works.....dead DD. Juggernaut would have fun watching WW or Supes smack him a few thousand times until the helmut comes off.

Originally posted by the ninjak
The Marvel Fanboys aint commin cause this be a Speed Spite thread.
SS can take either Supes or WW out. But not both. When two ground warriors were put on the Marvel team this one was decided. WWH would try punching DD for awhile but would soon realise crushing his bones works.....dead DD. Juggernaut would have fun watching WW or Supes smack him a few thousand times until the helmut comes off.

Again for people who think Supes actually matters in this thread, What will stop SS from oneshot at the beginning of the match.