Thor, Silver Surfer, WWH, Juggernaut Vs Cap Marvel, Supes, Doomsday, Diana

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Again for people who think Supes actually matters in this thread, What will stop SS from oneshot at the beginning of the match.

Well I think SS takes a solid majority over supes one on one, I don't think it will be a one shot though. Supes isn't all that vulnerable any more. It isn't like back in the day, and he has resisted having his solar energies drained as well. Supes is powerful enough to make ss work for a victory IMO. I don't think anyone on the field that matters, holds enough of an advantage to one shot anyone else.

I say an even split.

Originally posted by Konton
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Team 2 for high majority btw.

Diana is, physically, strongest and most durable here under these circumstances.

TEN times as durable and strong as her normal incarnation. I don't think anybody here can handle her up close. Sword of H is just a ridiculous advantage. She's the real threat on team 2.

Surfer has the most energy output on either team, but idk if it's going to keep Diana out of range. I would see her going for Surfer first and let Kal engage Thor while Cap and Doomsday take the land based Marvel characters.

Hulk's strength amps and what not.

Thor is still powerful enough to damage Galactus so WW is screwed up against him.

Surfer also isn't powerful as Thor.

Originally posted by snyper1982
This is classic thor, not current. Surfer is the most powerful on the field easily.

Originally posted by Placidity
Interesting assessment. But no, Hulk ain't tagging anyone here even when they are asleep.

Doomsday, WWH and Juggernaut can bash each other senseless, it doesn't really matter.

Then like someone said earlier, it'd be Supes and Cpt Marvel vs Surfer. Surfer would put up a decent fight, but still go down decisively.

And Wonder Woman /w gear vs Thor. Nuff said.

Now lets sit back and watch the Marvel fanboys argue their way out of this one.

Originally posted by quanchi112

If you take Thor at his best he can definitely bludgeon any character on team two to death.

That's what I tried to tell everyone on another forum. But apparently Characters who can reach speed levels like Supes, WW and Flash can kill Thor before he can even make one move.
Even though I have seen Thor hit Super Speed characters before.
Including Superman.
Do God powers count as magic?
Because if it does Supes is dead and this is an easy win for Marvel Team 😄

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah, I'd like to see her try and overpower the WW Hulk. Good luck with that.

Hulk's strength amps and what not.

Thor is still powerful enough to damage Galactus so WW is screwed up against him.

Surfer also isn't powerful as Thor.

Based on what?

Out of which one? If you take Thor at his best he can definitely bludgeon any character on team two to death.

Based on the fact that classic Thor is less powerful than SS...

Originally posted by the ninjak
That's what I tried to tell everyone on another forum. But apparently Characters who can reach speed levels like Supes, WW and Flash can kill Thor before he can even make one move.
Even though I have seen Thor hit Super Speed characters before.
Including Superman.
Do God powers count as magic?
Because if it does Supes is dead and this is an easy win for Marvel Team 😄

Thor's hammer is mystical in nature. He's far more powerful than superman to boot, has more experience, comparable strength and durability.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well, the Flash isn't here. Thor is definitely quick enough to hit Superman. This is a perfect example of a board myth created imo by the superman faction.

Thor's hammer is mystical in nature. He's far more powerful than superman to boot, has more experience, comparable strength and durability.

Classic Thor wasn't far more powerful than supes...

What no one has been able to answer me is if Thor's god abilities are magical in nature.
Enchantress and Loki can perform magic but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are magic in form.
If Thor's Hammer has been enchanted..... that means magic.
And that means if Thor's hammer ever hit Supes' head it would come off. 😱

Originally posted by the ninjak
What no one has been able to answer me is if Thor's god abilities are magical in nature.
Enchantress and Loki can perform magic but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are magic in form.
If Thor's Hammer has been enchanted..... that means magic.
And that means if Thor's hammer ever hit Supes' head it would come off. 😱

If it hit's supes, it would hurt more than normal, but it isn't taking his head off. I believe it is magical in nature.

It'd be kinda like being hit by one of Billy's punches. Which is why it's better to send Billy vs Thor to hold him off. And Wonder Woman to take him down- at 10x strength, she'll be stronger than him, and she has a cut-all sword that can deal damage fast, one hit with that in the wrong location can end it.

Originally posted by snyper1982
Classic Thor wasn't far more powerful than supes...

Originally posted by snyper1982
If it hit's supes, it would hurt more than normal, but it isn't taking his head off. I believe it is magical in nature.

Superman is vunerable to Magic Vampires and Kryptonite. And I've seen a vampire pierce his neck. And I've always considered vampires to be magic anyway!
So if Thor's hammer directly hit Supes in the face it would take him out.
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^ I sense a pic possibly on its way...

Originally posted by the ninjak
Superman is vunerable to Magic Vampires and Kryptonite. And I've seen a vampire pierce his neck. And I've always considered vampires to be magic anyway!
So if Thor's hammer directly hit Supes in the face it would take him out.
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There's different types of magic and how it affects him.

If an enchantment is 'cut-all' or 'pierce-all', he has no special resistance.

If on the other hand something is magic but without a specific effect enchantment, like it just hits harder or similar, then it's effect is slightly increased (I think of it as throwing 'static' into his solar-cells for a brief moment), but Superman takes hits from this kind of thing all the time.

Otherwise that time in Sacrifice where Diana boxed his ears with her magic bracers would've been a lot more messy.

Originally posted by Q99
There's different types of magic and how it affects him.

If an enchantment is 'cut-all' or 'pierce-all', he has no special resistance.

If on the other hand something is magic but without a specific effect enchantment, like it just hits harder or similar, then it's effect is slightly increased (I think of it as throwing 'static' into his solar-cells for a brief moment), but Superman takes hits from this kind of thing all the time.

Otherwise that time in Sacrifice where Diana boxed his ears with her magic bracers would've been a lot more messy.

I just find it weird how a vampire can pierce his neck. Yet
Thor's hammer which is enchanted won't hurt him enough to grab him and continue the hurt.

Originally posted by snyper1982
Well I think SS takes a solid majority over supes one on one, I don't think it will be a one shot though. Supes isn't all that vulnerable any more. It isn't like back in the day, and he has resisted having his solar energies drained as well. Supes is powerful enough to make ss work for a victory IMO. I don't think anyone on the field that matters, holds enough of an advantage to one shot anyone else.

I say an even split.

Surfer has the tools to take anyone out of this fight. Bfr Wonder Woman, blast superman with a dose of red sunlight (look at his recent fight with amazo) and ramb cap with his board at light speed.

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer has the tools to take anyone out of this fight. Bfr Wonder Woman, blast superman with a dose of red sunlight (look at his recent fight with amazo) and ramb cap with his board at light speed.

I am not saying he doesn't, I already said as much. I can just see this fight going wither way as it is essentially 3 on 2 in favor of DC. That is why I gave it an even split.

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer has the tools to take anyone out of this fight. Bfr Wonder Woman,

Does she also have the sandals of hermes? If so, I don't think she can be BFR'ed.

I do agree that surfer has the tools to deal with the members of team 2. He's going to be out numbered most likely. And unless he fights extremely smart from the get go, he'll get taken out by WW. There are just too many ways I can see for Team 2 to take this. Take away WW's gear and then Team 1 can make a much better showing.

Originally posted by snyper1982
I am not saying he doesn't, I already said as much. I can just see this fight going wither way as it is essentially 3 on 2 in favor of DC. That is why I gave it an even split.

Team 2.

Originally posted by Spire
Team 2.