War and Link vs Kratos, Bayonetta and Dante

Originally posted by Burning thought
Silly idea? silly that he can react and move out of the way of a mans aim? I didnt know link could not even time and dodge the aim of someone.....hes slower than i thought....

Also I assume your not refering to majoras whips? you know, the ones that Link never had to canonically dodge?

You're so silly. I never said Link dodged any whips. He reacted to them.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
There's no proof that any of those guys were uber and there is no mention that the Master Sword was even used. Just because you think Ganon and anyone who can defeat him is uber doesn't make it canon.

Majora had tentacles and Link can't even dodge them. He only blocks them with his shield and any knight can do that.

The Sages are uber. They sealed off the Sacred Realm to contain Ganon. And the Knights of Hyrule were the only ones capable of wielding the Master Sword, nobody else had it. The only reason Link is able to use it is because he is a descendant of the Knights of Hyrule.

You also seem to think I said "dodge." And you also seem to know that he stood there to block them with his shield. NOW U SILLY 2!

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You're so silly. I never said Link dodged any whips. He reacted to them.

I can react to whips as well, if someone flicked a whip a few meters way I would probably flinch, that would be my reaction.....

your argument does not help link. show me a speed feat? or should I wait for your boss?

For fear of tripping on the LoZ timeline again, wasnt the sealing Ganon thing the events of OoT? And Link being the only one to be able to wield the MS...

Now, BT, you're just being silly on purpose. You know when I said react I meant defend himself. So silly.

And nah, Blood. ALttP definitely had some sealing going on as well. And back then it was the Knights of Hyrule who wielded the Master Sword, Link was a descendant of theirs.

That's whatchu call a retcon. The Knights haven't been mentioned since that game.

24 years and the makes can't say ''oh and this is the REAL back story and timeline''
Btw in what way does he 'defend himself'?

Dunno, we just know he has to defend somehow. And it's either block it or dodge it, both of which mean a reaction time feat.

Putting up your shield to stop a whip attack does not equel reacting to the whip, we would have to take into account how fast he did it (did he put it up as the whips tip was released at the end of a swing?) and whether or not he just defended himself when he "belived" a strike was coming, e.g. Majora begins to swing---->Link defends---->Majora releases whip.

To me so far, it sounds like thats the tactic a player can use to block the guy, not necesserily the canon reaction.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Dunno, we just know he has to defend somehow.

hence why its not a real feat, its just a "supposed" feat. I could probably come up with several other ways to avoiding the whips, doging the aim of Majora just being one of them. Avoiding him being another.

This cant be what your talking about can it? lol

YouTube video

Oh look, you fetched a vid of gameplay, cool.

And no, had Link just stood there with his shield up, Majora could easily change where his strike is going to land and do a number of things. Snatch the shield, grab Link's leg, etc.

Well from what ive seen gameplay is all we get of Majoras whip play......

But thats not within Majoras techniques, as shown by the vid he only has a number of attacks. Link obvious just tosses up his shield and runs in for the kill, the predictable and not so quick Majora gets stomped. I think you can even stun Majora with those arrows, hence Link could also just run in while he is stunned and kill him.

All easy stuff really......theres more chances of Link winning without being hit at all or even nearly struck than Link having to actually dodge a close range whip. Look at the amount of area Link has to run around in...if he has any skill at all he could just time it so that Majora lets off his whip just out of range and then run in for the kill...

Regardless of how you try and reach for Link having a feat here, its simply not one....

Actually, if you want to get technical, Majora runs fast enough to leave after-images, and Link can still him him. 😄

By the looks of it he falls over by himself if you leave him long enough. Although the logic, physics and everything else can be ignored in that place (at least more so than in the rest of LoZ) since it looks like an insane realm of Majoras mind to me.....

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Actually, if you want to get technical, Majora runs fast enough to leave after-images, and Link can still him him. 😄

Majora's Incarnation is a complete idiot who fools around more than it fights. It even trips and falls, leaving itself vulnerable. Notice Link never hits it while it runs?

Even so, Dante and Bayonetta are way faster than Majora.

You have no way of proving or quantifying that, Sin.

Also note Link's not a child without his piece of the triforce in this thread.

Come on, you have to admit this.....regardless of what disagreement i have on Links durability and other "math" equations that make him strong. His speed is never going to come close to Bayonetta/Dantes.

A disappointment of a boss for that game 😬 should of been a whole lot darker and twisted. Like major nightmare-fuel boss.

Sin made the claim that Majora, despite leaving after images, is slower than Dante or Bayonetta, and yet has no quantifiable way of proving as much.

No, Link will not outrun Sonic the hedgehog, but he's clearly not going to lose a race to me, either.

I don't think the after images prove it was fast as well... its weird...

Running;
Link > Me > Dr.Robotnik > Sonic

Why? whats he done to suggest he can outrun you? assuming your not a slob without any athletic ability.....

Running;
Link > Me > Dr.Robotnik > Sonic

Why? whats he done to suggest he can outrun you? assuming your not a slob without any athletic ability.....

If the doc can who cant >w>