War and Link vs Kratos, Bayonetta and Dante

Originally posted by Burning thought
Your spamming the fact that something is a magical artifact that somehow it enhances Links attributes? show me....

Hyperbole is nothing to do with this, stop reaching.

Show me link consistently throwing those pillars throughout his games? you cant because theres only 3.....and your argueing that Dante who is not human and is demon is restricted by exceptions from our world? I lold, your playing silly bugger again. Counter or I will do the same.

Stop trying to drag me into this loop and actually address the fact that the posts you're passing off as an argument are inconsistent and do not make sense.

Again, I'll ask you to not ignore the point and address the fact that your thinking is inconsistent.

He did it twice, and you didn't say anything about his strength in OoT specifically. He constantly displays superhuman strength throughout TP, he was flung across the ocean in WW, in ALttP he has all kinds of items that grant him superhuman powers, in OoT he controls time, Minish Cap lets him shrink, Four Swords grants duplication, etc etc.

You are now arguing that demons in our world don't have to match the demons in DMC. Your entire point was that Link has nothing that is stated to make him super human when Dante, Kain, and Kratos don't have anything either. You are lacking consistency. Who says Hylians have to match humans in our world then? Why does Link have to have it stated when Dante, Kain and Kratos don't?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Apparently I'm immune to banning if I act like a total douchebag, but do so passive aggressively. So I'll abuse it until some rule is put in place. Then we can share a sweet, personal ban time together. 😮

You would have been banned from the beginning, you will find depending on who I am talking to I can speak with less "douchiness" so its you that turns me from that character to a aggressive debator.

You would have been banned from the beginning, you will find depending on who I am talking to I can speak with less "douchiness" so its you that turns me from that character to a aggressive debator.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Stop trying to drag me into this loop and actually address the fact that the posts you're passing off as an argument are inconsistent and do not make sense.

Again, I'll ask you to not ignore the point and address the fact that your thinking is inconsistent.

He did it twice, and you didn't say anything about his strength in OoT specifically. He constantly displays superhuman strength throughout TP, he was flung across the ocean in WW, in ALttP he has all kinds of items that grant him superhuman powers, in OoT he controls time, Minish Cap lets him shrink, Four Swords grants duplication, etc etc.

You are now arguing that demons in our world don't have to match the demons in DMC. Your entire point was that Link has nothing that is stated to make him super human when Dante, Kain, and Kratos don't have anything either. You are lacking consistency. Who says Hylians have to match humans in our world then? Why does Link have to have it stated when Dante, Kain and Kratos don't?

ofc they make sense, your just trying to pass off Links triforce as an enhancement the same way Dantes/Kains innate physiology is. We all know Dante is enhanced superhuman, same with kratos not because of feats alone but because their demonic/vampiric. They are enhanced all over their forms.

These are all items however, they dont alter him physically.

They do, the fact their Demi Gods, half demons or vampires give them exceptions, they are enhanced unless your trying to play silly bugger and say that they are all naturally of human strength/speed and durability? 😐

Originally posted by Burning thought
ofc they make sense, your just trying to pass off Links triforce as an enhancement the same way Dantes/Kains innate physiology is. We all know Dante is enhanced superhuman, same with kratos not because of feats alone but because their demonic/vampiric. They are enhanced all over their forms.

These are all items however, they dont alter him physically.

They do, the fact their Demi Gods, half demons or vampires give them exceptions, they are enhanced unless your trying to play silly bugger and say that they are all naturally of human strength/speed and durability? 😐

Actually I'm trying to get you to be a consistent person. All those titles are nice, but where are the statements that they make them superhuman? Link has a nice title too, you know, Hero of Time, Hero of Legend, Hero of Time, Hero Chosen by the Goddesses, etc etc. You want these titles to mean something without letting Link's mean the same.

Duplication doesn't alter him physically? And TP Link's strength is completely natural. As is WW Link's durability.

Again, nice titles, Link has several of his own. Yet Link has to have some statement that he is super-human, and they do not. Why is that?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Actually I'm trying to get you to be a consistent person. All those titles are nice, but where are the statements that they make them superhuman? Link has a nice title too, you know, Hero of Time, Hero of Legend, Hero of Time, Hero Chosen by the Goddesses, etc etc. You want these titles to mean something without letting Link's mean the same.

Duplication doesn't alter him physically? And TP Link's strength is completely natural. As is WW Link's durability.

Again, nice titles, Link has several of his own. Yet Link has to have some statement that he is super-human, and they do not. Why is that?

Since when is "vampire" or "demon" a title? its a spiecies/entity type....you know, in their own fictions their superhuman.

WW is real toonforce, TP is not toonforce but I have not seen him do anything impressive strengthwise.

"sigh" your just not getting it.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Since when is "vampire" or "demon" a title? its a spiecies/entity type....you know, in their own fictions their superhuman.

WW is real toonforce, TP is not toonforce but I have not seen him do anything impressive strengthwise.

"sigh" your just not getting it.

Okay, so where is it stated that being these things gives them these powers?

Yes you have, the Goron feats, the sword lock, sumo wrestling, etc.

I'm getting it just fine, you are inconsistent and you refuse to acknowledge it.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Okay, so where is it stated that being these things gives them these powers?

Yes you have, the Goron feats, the sword lock, sumo wrestling, etc.

I'm getting it just fine, you are inconsistent and you refuse to acknowledge it.

"sigh" your still not getting it. Your trying to argue that Vampires, Demons and Demi-Gods in their respective universes despite feats from other entities of the same power are human in statistics.

Goron feats are based on the same thing as the pillar, a loss of physics. Sword lock means nothing, Ganons not that strong.

Originally posted by Burning thought
"sigh" your still not getting it. Your trying to argue that Vampires, Demons and Demi-Gods in their respective universes despite feats from other entities of the same power are human in statistics.

Goron feats are based on the same thing as the pillar, a loss of physics. Sword lock means nothing, Ganons not that strong.

So you are arguing that Demons, Vampires and Demi-Gods are super human without statements, yet Hylians are not. Consistency, BT, you still lack it.

Actually, they aren't. Weight helps to work with insane strength, you see.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
So you are arguing that Demons, Vampires and Demi-Gods are super human without statements, yet Hylians are not. Consistency, BT, you still lack it.

Actually, they aren't. Weight helps to work with insane strength, you see.

When are Hylians [b]ever[/]b known to be superhuman?

Demons withni their own universe (DMC) are known to be insanely strong, endurant, naturally powerful etc. Vampires are likewise, we all know without needing to be told these entities are not as flimsy as humans. Your making exceptions outside the universe, these are exceptions within.

Links weight is apprentyl x5 while wearing Iron shoes.....which would certainly break btw if under 200 ton forces.

Originally posted by Burning thought
When are Hylians [b]ever[/]b known to be superhuman?

Demons withni their own universe (DMC) are known to be insanely strong, endurant, naturally powerful etc. Vampires are likewise, we all know without needing to be told these entities are not as flimsy as humans. Your making exceptions outside the universe, these are exceptions within.

Links weight is apprentyl x5 while wearing Iron shoes.....which would certainly break btw if under 200 ton forces.

In the instances that you have been claiming as toonforce based on the fact that Link had no statements that he is super human. See how all of this is connecting now?

But where is it stated? And why do Vampires in LoK match the vampires of our world? Wasn't it you who argued that works of fiction do not always follow our world's rules? If this is not one of those cases, show me where these abilities are stated lest they be classified as toonforce.

Your math is surely based on the assumption that he is not super human.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
In the instances that you have been claiming as toonforce based on the fact that Link had no statements that he is super human. See how all of this is connecting now?

But where is it stated? And why do Vampires in LoK match the vampires of our world? Wasn't it you who argued that works of fiction do not always follow our world's rules? If this is not one of those cases, show me where these abilities are stated lest they be classified as toonforce.

Your math is surely based on the assumption that he is not super human.

its not connecting, because youve missed the point. Link has no reason to have superhuman statistics to have put on him, he has no items affecting the rest of his body and theres no reason to belive he is superhuman. Your trying to counter me by saying Vampires, Demons etc are at human levels of endurance.

Not really, him being super human or not is irrelevent, or are you trying to say Links weight is great as well? fandom....

That is your argument, that Link has no reason for that, yet the reason for the others to have those abilities is being of a different species even though those abilities are never stated. It is inconsistent and a hole in your thinking.

Strength and Weight work together in situations like that. You shouldn't be mathing things when you don't understand the concepts behind the formulas.

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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
That is your argument, that Link has no reason for that, yet the reason for the others to have those abilities is being of a different species even though those abilities are never stated. It is inconsistent and a hole in your thinking.

Strength and Weight work together in situations like that. You shouldn't be mathing things when you don't understand the concepts behind the formulas.

nah, its known that Demons are far stronger than humans, faster, more durable in DMC. Its also common sense but you would not know about that. Same with Demi-Gods and vampires, gaining supernatural powers does not weaken you or leave you at human levels.

Gaining a trinket of courage on the other hand has no gauge of power, or what it does.

neither do you, youve never even used math your just copying/pasting what Screampaste would say assuming he had a close to legit math equation. Link is light, his boots make him slightly heavier, their made of a light metal etc

Originally posted by Burning thought
nah, its known that Demons are far stronger than humans, faster, more durable in DMC. Its also common sense but you would not know about that. Same with Demi-Gods and vampires, gaining supernatural powers does not weaken you or leave you at human levels.

Gaining a trinket of courage on the other hand has no gauge of power, or what it does.

neither do you, youve never even used math your just copying/pasting what Screampaste would say assuming he had a close to legit math equation. Link is light, his boots make him slightly heavier, their made of a light metal etc

Prove this. I demand statements that say this. It's only fair, Link has to have statements, right?

The Triforce of Courage is also not a race of people, like the Hylian is.

No, sir, I still understand the basic concepts of physics. My math abilities are sub par, but I would still understand what I'm looking at and be able to say "Yeah, that makes sense. I can understand that."

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Prove this. I demand statements that say this. It's only fair, Link has to have statements, right?

The Triforce of Courage is also not a race of people, like the Hylian is.

No, sir, I still understand the basic concepts of physics. My math abilities are sub par, but I would still understand what I'm looking at and be able to say "Yeah, that makes sense. I can understand that."

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"Dante uses his superhuman abilities"

Hylians are never known to do anything superhuman unlike Demons and vampires.

No, you just look at any nonsense from a LoZ game and say that regardless of the logic behind it. Go and find the maths equation and disprove how little iron boots can take 200 tonnes of force, or a lightweight elf can also somehow take this?

Too lazy to read what this is about but BT's right in saying that Hylians in general havnt been said to my knowledge to be superhuman unlike other 'species'. However there can easily be room for exceptions. (eg Zelda showing inhuman feats.)

And these super human abilities are the result of what? Link had no super human abilities, according to you, because he had no reason to possess said abilities.

I'm still waiting for the statements that say Vampires and Demons have these abilities.

Somehow I knew you were going to say that. Give me a bit.

Edits: Dun need math. I was thinking Dangoro was 800 tons, but he's the 200 tonner. The floor was magnetic for that, granting extra "weight" in a sense because it keeps Link anchored to that spot.

You mean vampires and Demi-Gods but I dont need to now I have my example. The its all common sense anyway. Its like me saying the "Golden Goddesses" have human durability and strength.