Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Again, you are not following your own logic. Link had no REASON for this durability, according to you. And unfortunately for you Dante, Kain and Kratos do not have these reasons either. Unless of course you want to use "Has to" arguments to say that these powers of theirs come from their respective "reasons."Yes, you did. What you did not however, is provide evidence of what super human abilities are the result. As I said, it could simply be the ability to grow horns or scare away your own reflection.
Link doesn't have anything less than what the other guys do. He's got more strength though. A lot more strength. Well, unless of course everyone's feats are toonforce.
Now open your eyes and seriously comprehend this situation, I can't keep restating this all night. I have homework that needs to be taken care of.
The developer stating them superhuman or powered by the underworld sort of is a reason....
Thats assumption, their feats say otherwise. Your misunderstanding the difference between feats/exceptions again. With Link I am talking about exceptions, he lacks canon exceptions such as "demon" or "vampire" (each have feats within their own universe btw) wheras Hylians are never stated to be superhuman but your still adding exceptions where they dont exist.
Nah, hes got some toonforce, a little more strength etc but nothing that impressive. And yes, he has no exception made by the developers to indicate why he would be able to do the things he does, being superhuman on the other hand is an exception Dante/Kain and Kratos enjoy.
Neat. But what powers are a result of those reasons? Doesn't say which ones? Didn't think so.
Again you're back with this never stated stuff. As mentioned before, Dante may be stated to have abilities, but which abilities were never specified. Horn growing ftw? And no, I'm not making any exceptions. Stop acting like I'm still trying to prove that feat is legit when I'm not. I'm trying to get you to be consistent in your thinking, the result will either be the nullification of every other character, or you accepting that Link's feats are legit.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Neat. But what powers are a result of those reasons? Doesn't say which ones? Didn't think so.Again you're back with this never stated stuff. As mentioned before, Dante may be stated to have abilities, but which abilities were never specified. Horn growing ftw? And no, I'm not making any exceptions. Stop acting like I'm still trying to prove that feat is legit when I'm not. I'm trying to get you to be consistent in your thinking, the result will either be the nullification of every other character, or you accepting that Link's feats are legit.
It does not have to, the fact is theres a reason and that such characters are superhuman from those reasons. Hylians are not.
Who says anything about being specified? the games feats themselves do the specification, same with LoK and GoW. Fact is they also have "reasons" behind them even if its vague or unspecific, Link does not.
No, the result will be you realising Link has no exceptions/reasons behind his apprent shown feats, your also ignoring a hellava lot of stuff like Link not being consistent in his feats, unlike Kain/dante and Kratos who show beyond human attributes throughout their games (certainly Dante). Link does not, and when he does its usually due to an item (irons boots lol) that outlines how unlikely him having hundreds of tonnes of force working around him is.
Link has no reasons, no canon exceptions.
The other characters do, they also have consistency.
Originally posted by Burning thought
It does not have to, the fact is theres a reason and that such characters are superhuman from those reasons. Hylians are not.Who says anything about being specified? the games feats themselves do the specification, same with LoK and GoW. Fact is they also have "reasons" behind them even if its vague or unspecific, Link does not.
No, the result will be you realising Link has no exceptions/reasons behind his apprent shown feats, your also ignoring a hellava lot of stuff like Link not being consistent in his feats, unlike Kain/dante and Kratos who show beyond human attributes throughout their games (certainly Dante). Link does not, and when he does its usually due to an item (irons boots lol) that outlines how unlikely him having hundreds of tonnes of force working around him is.
Link has no reasons, no canon exceptions.
The other characters do, they also have consistency.
It does have to specify, otherwise you are assuming which powers they are. It has to be those strength and speed factors, right? Now you have an assumption rule for all the characters except Link. Who was it making the exceptions again?
Actually, he does have a reason behind him. The fact that he isn't human, he is a Hylian. And if that isn't enough for you, then pass it off as the Triforce of Courage. Personally I recommend you choose the Triforce of Courage as it is able to be removed from threads, Link being a Hylian is not. But if you're going to use "has to" logic for Dante, Kain and Kratos then you must accept the same for Link.
But Link IS consistent in his feats.
Neither does anyone else.
No they don't.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
It does have to specify, otherwise you are assuming which powers they are. It [b]has to be those strength and speed factors, right? Now you have an assumption rule for all the characters except Link. Who was it making the exceptions again?Actually, he does have a reason behind him. The fact that he isn't human, he is a Hylian. And if that isn't enough for you, then pass it off as the Triforce of Courage. Personally I recommend you choose the Triforce of Courage as it is able to be removed from threads, Link being a Hylian is not. But if you're going to use "has to" logic for Dante, Kain and Kratos then you must accept the same for Link.
But Link IS consistent in his feats.
Neither does anyone else.
No they don't. [/B]
Not really, all we need to know is that their superhuman/supernaturally enhanced by facts/canon in their fictions. After that the feats speak for themselves, problem is Link does not have the canon enhancement from his developers, just random and often toonforce/illogical events.
😆 hes Hylian therefore that makes a difference? I just showed you how Dante and Kain have exceptions based on their developers canon not on you claiming "pass it off" 🙄
This is not "has to" logic tho, they have the exception, then a specific feat consistently throughout their games. As do many entities of teh same spiecies (all vamps, all demons, all gods are powerful and have higher feats than humans). Afaik Link and his ansestors are the only hylians to portray anything above humans.
Statement, wheres the proof? Links a shrimpy little guy whos whole game is based around exploration and finding items. He also needs iron boots (iron of all things) to overcome certain weight/strength limitations of his body. Explain please why Links developers make sure he uses the lower end swords he begins with or armour or shields if he is innately as strong as you claim?
inconsistency dear Dawson.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Not really, all we need to know is that their superhuman/supernaturally enhanced by facts/canon in their fictions. After that the feats speak for themselves, problem is Link does not have the canon enhancement from his developers, just random and often toonforce/illogical events.😆 hes Hylian therefore that makes a difference? I just showed you how Dante and Kain have exceptions based on [b]their developers canon
not on you claiming "pass it off" 🙄This is not "has to" logic tho, they have the exception, then a specific feat consistently throughout their games. As do many entities of teh same spiecies (all vamps, all demons, all gods are powerful and have higher feats than humans). Afaik Link and his ansestors are the only hylians to portray anything above humans.
Statement, wheres the proof? Links a shrimpy little guy whos whole game is based around exploration and finding items. He also needs iron boots (iron of all things) to overcome certain weight/strength limitations of his body. Explain please why Links developers make sure he uses the lower end swords he begins with or armour or shields if he is innately as strong as you claim?
incosistency dear Dawson. [/B]
But you are still making an assumption, which we are not allowed to do because we support Link, yet you are because you do not support Link. Your thinking is terrible, and you have to have realized it by now. If not, there just isn't any hope.
You are assuming that this exception is the reason for their feats which has not been stated. It is merely stated that they are super human, which abilities matters.
This is where you are incorrect. It is "has to" logic because this is not stated. The dots have not been fully connected, yet you are looking at it like they are.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
But you are still making an assumption, which we are not allowed to do because we support Link, yet you are because you do not support Link. Your thinking is terrible, and you have to have realized it by now. If not, there just isn't any hope.You are assuming that this exception is the reason for their feats which has not been stated. It is merely stated that they are super human, which abilities matters.
This is where you are incorrect. It is "has to" logic because this is not stated. The dots have not been fully connected, yet you are looking at it like they are.
How the hell can you keep arguin' wit him?! It boggles my mind...
I'm getting that he is biased towards Link and can't be that without his arguments being nullified. If you read the posts carefully you'll notice this, Bloodrain:
Link's feats were claimed to be toonforce because Link did not have a reason to be super human.
I point out that Link is a Hylian and has the Triforce of Courage, two reasons.
Neither of these have been stated to make him super human or give him any abilities, BT says.
I point out that Dante, Kain and Kratos do not have reasons. He gives the reasons, so I say that they are not stated. He gives some statements that Dante and Kain have super human abilities. But these reasons have still not been stated to give these abilities. Thus, the dots are not connected and by his logic their feats are toonforce. To say that they have these feats anyway is to make an exception or an assumption, things he keeps ranting about the Link supporters doing for Link.
This is the argument that has been pursued for the past few pages. Not so hard to wrap your head around if you just stop and think about it. I've been trying my best to explain it thus far.
Originally posted by No End N Site
How the hell can you keep arguin' wit him?! It boggles my mind...
I exist to do battle with evil! I use my powers for JUSTICE!