Originally posted by illadelph12Which is a fine position to hold, no argument.
You two (Smurph/Jake) are misinterpreting my ruling. I'm not saying Zatanna shouldn't be allowed because she could possibly do anything and I'm voting against her because of implied "limitations", what I'm saying is that since she's been allowed I'm holding her to the same burden of proof requirements as other characters have been held to rather than just the "she's magic, so anything is possible".
I was only commenting on this being a premise to your conclusion:
Originally posted by illadelph12
This works two ways. If she is capable of doing practically anything she wants because she's magic, she should likely be illegal. All she'd have to say is "nrut ffo rieht srewop" and "pots rieht straeh" and it's game/set/match. But of course, Bats and Khan allowerd her, so that couldn't be the case.
A false premise, as being capable of such things wouldn't make her illegal (and therefore provides less support for your conclusion), as Batdude has now confirmed.
Anyways, it's over now, but that's all I was referring to.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Which is a fine position to hold, no argument.I was only commenting on this being a premise to your conclusion:
A false premise, as being capable of such things wouldn't make her illegal (and therefore provides less support for your conclusion), as Batdude has now confirmed.
Anyways, it's over now, but that's all I was referring to.
Read the next sentence.
Originally posted by illadelph12You present two options, what I've quoted and the next sentence (the alternative). Read as written, you discard what I've quoted based on a false assumption about what would make Zatanna illegal.
Read the next sentence.
If you wish to come to that conclusion regardless, fine, I've said my piece. All that I've highlighted is an incorrect assumption.
Anyways, really, I see no point in dragging this out. I realize its a minor point Delph, and I only brought it up in the first place to dissuade further judges from arriving at conclusions based on the same false premise. Just correcting a minor err based on what Batdude relayed to me.
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Good tourney, again, to all competitors. I said it in the tourney thread but not in this one.
Like I said, I'll remember this one. See you next time.
Not dragging it out, just clarifying since it seems to be a point of contention. The premise of my decision was NOT based whatsoever on Zatanna being illegal because she could do anything, it was based on, if you read my entire statement in it's full context, that Batdude and Khan said Z was legal, which would establish, in turn, she of course couldn't simply do anything she wanted and was held to the same burden of proof required of any other character.
Ah we made it. And we are in the finals. Win or lose we are vary glad to make it to the finals.
This and our prior match where vary tough, for the sole reason of portions of our prep/strategy being ruled out. Not that we depend entirely on them. But I feel half the battle is with your initial write up, and the other half is the actual debating.
We will honor our fallen foes by debating with the same..no with Greater intensity, That is the way of the Battlezone.