Juggernaut VS

Originally posted by American Dragon
Magneto would beat Juggernaut because Juggernauts entire body armor is metal and Magneto controls all metal.

Juggernaut is also invulnerable without the armor and also he can't be stopped by magnetism. He wins.

Mags can`t put Juggy down, but he can put him trough a wormhole to the center or the sun for the BFR

(edit) or he could put together one of those helmets that let him mind control. Takes him just sceconds to do that from thin air. Heel Juggernaut!

"Apoc, however, does have the two components needed to beat Juggs- the strength to remove the helmet, and telepathy."

And how can Apocalypse accomplish this when the Juggernaut has his magical force field up?

"without a doubt proteus kicks juggernauts buttox."

When have reality warping powers ever affected the Juggernaut.

"Mags can`t put Juggy down, but he can put him trough a wormhole to the center or the sun for the BFR"

Even this would be unlikely since magic defies science and physics. Cyttorak's magic would help the Juggernaut not get BFR'ed. Wherever the Juggernaut wants to go, he will go there.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Even this would be unlikely since magic defies science and physics. Cyttorak's magic would help the Juggernaut not get BFR'ed. Wherever the Juggernaut wants to go, he will go there.

Which is why Juggy has spent most of his life trapped other dimensions or other places he could not get back from..

Classic Eternity BFR'd Juggernaut. Cyttorak's magic won't protect him against everything

"Which is why Juggy has spent most of his life trapped other dimensions or other places he could not get back from.."

I was talking about Juggernaut vs Magneto. Not everyone in the Marvel Universe.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Which is why Juggy has spent most of his life trapped other dimensions or other places he could not get back from..

Originally posted by Q99
Juggernaut is also invulnerable without the armor and also he can't be stopped by magnetism. He wins.

The key word here is also if Hulk is mad enough he can beat the hell out of him and Superman dropped him with one punch. Magneto would beat Juggernaut with no problem.

"The key word here is also if Hulk is mad enough he can beat the hell out of him and Superman dropped him with one punch. Magneto would beat Juggernaut with no problem."

No, he can't. Cyttorak's magic can overcome anything that the Hulk can dish out, excluding War Hulk, who was boosted by Celestial Technology.

Magneto can't defeat the Juggernaut for the same reason.

WWH and Juggernaut were pretty even untill Xavier distracted Cain.

Trion Juggernaut was atleast a skyfather level character. He takes this with ease.

Originally posted by American Dragon
The key word here is also if Hulk is mad enough he can beat the hell out of him and Superman dropped him with one punch. Magneto would beat Juggernaut with no problem.

Hulk has never injured Juggernaut when Juggernaut's not reduced, and Superman dropping him is non-canon and not in line with his powers.

Superman and Hulk could beat on Juggernaut all day and not take him out.

"WWH and Juggernaut were pretty even untill Xavier distracted Cain."

True, but all the Juggernaut had to do is draw more strength from Cyttorak's magic and he would be able to overpower the Hulk.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
"WWH and Juggernaut were pretty even untill Xavier distracted Cain."

True, but all the Juggernaut had to do is draw more strength from Cyttorak's magic and he would be able to overpower the Hulk.

And at the least, he'd never be hurt by Hulk's pounding.

It was PIS, though, that Nimrod hurt the Juggernaut through ultrasonic beams. It shouldn't have been able to hurt him.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Mags can`t put Juggy down, but he can put him trough a wormhole to the center or the sun for the BFR

(edit) or he could put together one of those helmets that let him mind control. Takes him just sceconds to do that from thin air. Heel Juggernaut!

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
He could probably screw with his synapses with his EM control.

He was operating just fine as a skeleton.

In the What If where Professor X got the Juggernauts power instead of Cain, Magneto tried to kill Charles by using his magnetism to crush him inside his armor. It didn't work.

While that story is non-canon, I think the result would be the same with Cain.

Originally posted by Mindset
Could he?

He was operating just fine as a skeleton.

I suspect Juggernaut's body functions as "normal" if it is there. If something vital is missing he is sustained by magic. He can eat and drink, though he doesn't need to, and Nimrod was able to screw with his senses via ultrasonics.

The whole thing gets weirder the more I think about it though. But I really don't think he's like Iceman, Colossus, or Sand or Hydro man in that, depending on the day, they are essentially golems.

The point is, perhaps what Nimrod did wouldn't work again since the D'Spayre instance.

I could see it not working since the D'Spayre instance completely independent of the D'Spayre instance.

I don't see why it wouldn't work but I wouldn't be surprised if the issue come along and Juggernaut just decided he didn't want things like that to work anymore. That he wanted it to be like back in the day when people didn't think enough to try things like that so he could go back to the old days when he'd always get thwarted by being tripped up or getting his helmet knocked off and the x-men suddenly showing up.