Juggernaut VS

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Mshinu Star for a Brain
Originally posted by nicamarvin
YET he always comes back....SHUT UP FANBOY........ 😠

be nice, nicemarvin 😉

Everybody in Marvel (except uncle Ben) comes back eventually, no matter how locked up or dead they are. Juggs is no different tho he has spent more time sealed away than most.

Mags can still BFR Juggy.
Apoc can rip off his helmet and f him up, not to mention he got celestial tech which mess up his invulnerability.

nicamarvin Restricted

Originally posted by Mshinu
be nice, nicemarvin 😉
....crybaby SORRY

AsbestosFlaygon The Original One

How would he fare against Slapstick?

Mshinu Star for a Brain

Is this the Slapstick who got knocked out by Teddy the big cute killer robot?

AsbestosFlaygon The Original One

Let's just use average Slapstick

KillAll Senior Member

Originally posted by pinksushi1

"without a doubt proteus kicks juggernauts buttox."

When have reality warping powers ever affected the Juggernaut.

juggernauts mystic bands are based on the physical (comic book physics) laws of reality. you would literally have to be able to bend reality physically to harm him physically. which proteus can. now i ask, when has reality warpers ever tried to harm juggernaut??? its safe to assume that juggernauts power will not protect him from reality warpers...

Doctor-Alvis Post-Crisis Balki

I'm not convinced Juggernaut is literally invincible. Not to the point where you'd have to warp reality to physically harm him. I'm more in the camp that he's just ridiculously durable.

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

He's physically invincible.

KillAll Senior Member
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I'm not convinced Juggernaut is literally invincible. Not to the point where you'd have to warp reality to physically harm him. I'm more in the camp that he's just ridiculously durable.

the only thing that has ever hurt him is... well something that uber. or magic.

thors godblast is powerful. he didnt even feel it. he was surprised that it pushed him backwards however.

Doctor-Alvis Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He's physically invincible.

Originally posted by KillAll
the only thing that has ever hurt him is... well something that uber. or magic.

thors godblast is powerful. he didnt even feel it. he was surprised that it pushed him backwards however.


Consider this: If the Living Tribunal held Juggernaut in his hand and pressed his giant golden finger into Juggernaut's chest with all the energy that was or ever will be, do you think Juggernaut would remain in tact?

KillAll Senior Member
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Consider this: If the Living Tribunal held Juggernaut in his hand and pressed his giant golden finger into Juggernaut's chest with all the energy that was or ever will be, do you think Juggernaut would remain in tact?

no because i believe living tribunal capable of physically bending the laws of reality and the magic that protects the juggernaut. stupid question.

Doctor-Alvis Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by KillAll
no because i believe living tribunal capable of physically bending the laws of reality and the magic that protects the juggernaut. stupid question.

I didn't say anything about bending the laws of reality, take it down a notch. This scenario is completely physical. He's acting as a vise in the highest order. Would all the energy that has or will ever exist in the universe channeled into this vise be able to physically damage Juggernaut?

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

the LT's more powerful than cytorrak therefor juggernaut would lose to him.

Doctor-Alvis Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the LT's more powerful than cytorrak therefor juggernaut would lose to him.

True point. What that really comes down to is there are things with more power than Cyttorak, and thus Juggernaut. I don't think it has to be as extreme as Living Tribunal's super Pillsbury finger poke, or even someone who can beat Cyttorak since Juggernaut is just a shred of Cyttorak's implied might.

But it still leaves quite a bit of space. He's clearly extremely durable but he's certainly not absolutely invincible. That would make him more powerful than his creator and entities greater than his creator.

pinksushi1 Senior Member
Originally posted by KillAll
juggernauts mystic bands are based on the physical (comic book physics) laws of reality. you would literally have to be able to bend reality physically to harm him physically. which proteus can. now i ask, when has reality warpers ever tried to harm juggernaut??? its safe to assume that juggernauts power will not protect him from reality warpers...

So, Cyttorak's magic is not strong enough to counter reality manipulation?

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
True point. What that really comes down to is there are things with more power than Cyttorak, and thus Juggernaut. I don't think it has to be as extreme as Living Tribunal's super Pillsbury finger poke, or even someone who can beat Cyttorak since Juggernaut is just a shred of Cyttorak's implied might.

But it still leaves quite a bit of space. He's clearly extremely durable but he's certainly not absolutely invincible. That would make him more powerful than his creator and entities greater than his creator.

Cyttoraks power has nothing to do with it. Cain is drawing directly from Cyttorak, he's drawing from the gem. When Cyttorak created it, he imbued it with all the power it was ever going to have.

Doctor-Alvis Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Cyttoraks power has nothing to do with it. Cain is drawing directly from Cyttorak, he's drawing from the gem. When Cyttorak created it, he imbued it with all the power it was ever going to have.

I didn't say Cyttorak's power did have anything to do with it. I was just using him as a bigger dog in the hierarchy while also relating it to the "Can X beat Cyttorak" I see in so many Juggernaut threads.

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

Ok, but it doesn't matter if someone is more powerful than Cyttorak. The only time that would matter is if Cyttorak decided to intervene on Cain's behalf.

Doctor-Alvis Post-Crisis Balki

Replace the name "Cyttorak" with Odin or Beyonder or something if that helps you get through it.

The relationship between the two wasn't supposed to come into play.

Knowsbleed33 You know my name

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Replace the name "Cyttorak" with Odin or Beyonder or something if that helps you get through it.

The relationship between the two wasn't supposed to come into play.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the LT's more powerful than cytorrak therefor juggernaut would lose to him.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
True point. What that really comes down to is there are things with more power than Cyttorak, and thus Juggernaut. I don't think it has to be as extreme as Living Tribunal's super Pillsbury finger poke, or even someone who can beat Cyttorak since Juggernaut is just a shred of Cyttorak's implied might.

But it still leaves quite a bit of space. He's clearly extremely durable but he's certainly not absolutely invincible. That would make him more powerful than his creator and entities greater than his creator.

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