I don't have the book right now, so I can't direct you. Though, now that I think about it...... it may have actually have been in one of the source-books or something. I know it certainly is somewhere, but you'll have to get one of the other guys to help you. If you can track down Gideon he'll have it becuase he was the guy who first pointed it out.
But yeah, it is said somewhere. Plus the non-canon ending shows what would happen if Galen fought a serious Sidious. He gets owned.
Edit: Thank you ares!
The novelization, graphic novel, and cutscene vary differently.
The novelization doesn't depict a fight between the Emperor and Marek at all; Sidious attacks Rahm Kota and Marek intervenes by hurling debris at Palpatine, who kneels in submission and goads Marek into delivering a killing blow.
The graphic novel shows Palpatine attack Marek; Marek subdues him, though Palpatine laughs this off and goads Marek to strike and "prove that [Palpatine] was right about [Marek] from the beginning!"
The cutscene depicts a decidedly less enthusiastic Sidious on the floor at Marek's mercy.
I'm not certain which one is the most canon, but we can deduce certain facts from all three, since they have a lot in common. In all three, Palpatine ends the conflict by submitting to Marek in an attempt to lure him to the dark side. The fact that Marek cautions Kota that Sidious is "stronger than [he] knows" suggests strongly that Marek understands all too well that Palpatine was not attacking at full strength. That Sidious promptly stands up upon Marek's rejection of the dark side and launches another attack also lends credibility to the idea that he was pulling his punches, so to speak.
Lastly, Palpatine survived Marek's Force-generated explosive jump to martyr without a scratch and, since the dark side ending is contingent solely on a different decision and takes place immediately after the fact, we can use it as a reliable indicator of what would have happened had Palpatine really decided to get nasty.
Combined with the official word from the databank and Encyclopedia (ultimately no match for the power of Darth Sidious), Marek would clearly get thoroughly crushed.
Originally posted by Gideon
I'm not certain which one is the most canon, but we can deduce certain facts from all three, since they have a lot in common. In all three, Palpatine ends the conflict by submitting to Marek in an attempt to lure him to the dark side. The fact that Marek cautions Kota that Sidious is "stronger than [he] knows" suggests strongly that Marek understands all too well that Palpatine was not attacking at full strength. That Sidious promptly stands up upon Marek's rejection of the dark side and launches another attack also lends credibility to the idea that he was pulling his punches, so to speak.Lastly, Palpatine survived Marek's Force-generated explosive jump to martyr without a scratch and, since the dark side ending is contingent solely on a different decision and takes place immediately after the fact, we can use it as a reliable indicator of what would have happened had Palpatine really decided to get nasty.
Combined with the official word from the databank and Encyclopedia (ultimately no match for the power of Darth Sidious), Marek would clearly get thoroughly crushed.
Amen.
Galen wins this one because he has more heart.
Bane turned to the dark side out of fear. He coveted power because he was afraid of others having power over him. On the one hand it's understandable, given his abusive father, being heavily in debt to the ORO company etc, but look at Galen's childhood. He was brought up by an abusive father-figure too (Vader) and his only friend tried repeatedly to kill him. At least Des's only friend (Groshik) never tried to kill him.
Galen was able to rise above his past and turn away from darkness. Bane wasn't. That shows Galen is stronger.
Originally posted by chilled monkeyHow does that indicate force or combat superiority?
Galen wins this one because he has more heart.Bane turned to the dark side out of fear. He coveted power because he was afraid of others having power over him. On the one hand it's understandable, given his abusive father, being heavily in debt to the ORO company etc, but look at Galen's childhood. He was brought up by an abusive father-figure too (Vader) and his only friend tried repeatedly to kill him. At least Des's only friend (Groshik) never tried to kill him.
Galen was able to rise above his past and turn away from darkness. Bane wasn't. That shows Galen is stronger.
Originally posted by \\S//No he isn't, he got tooled when sidious decided to fight and luke skywalker has demonstrated superior combat prowess.
Galen Marek might not be as strong in the force but his combat skill is definitely superior to any other force wielder. He takes his powers as far as they'll go.
You are a galen fanboy.
Originally posted by BoratBorat
No he isn't, he got tooled when sidious decided to fight
1) That didn't actually happen, so it doesn't count.
2) Even if it did, keep in mind Sidious caught him by surprise.
Heck, Galen was able to push Sidious's lightning back/advance on him while getting hit by lightning and grapple him so that Sidious zapped himself.
Originally posted by BoratBorat
and luke skywalker has demonstrated superior combat prowess.
True, but he's Luke frigging Skywalker. There's no shame in not being as good as him.
Galen's combat skill is a lot better than most other Jedi, Sith etc. There aren't many who surpass him.
Originally posted by chilled monkeyKeep it mind that it was what would have happened.
1) That didn't actually happen, so it doesn't count.2) Even if it did, keep in mind Sidious caught him by surprise.
And the SW data bank clearly stated "Galen marek is no match for the emperor.
You lose galen fanboy, suck it up.
Originally posted by chilled monkeyYet sidious survived the ordeal without his robes even getting tarnished when your precious galen lay dead on the floor.
Heck, Galen was able to push Sidious's lightning back/advance on him while getting hit by lightning and grapple him so that Sidious zapped himself.
Originally posted by chilled monkeySidious, luke, caedus?
Galen's combat skill is a lot better than most other Jedi, Sith etc. There aren't many who surpass him.
Originally posted by chilled monkeyBut that is what would have happened if Sidious decided to really attack him.
1) That didn't actually happen, so it doesn't count.
2) Even if it did, keep in mind Sidious caught him by surprise.Sidious did not catch him by surprise. As a matter of fact Galen had the advantage of having his lightsaber ignited, whereas Sidious did not.
Heck, Galen was able to push Sidious's lightning back/advance on him while getting hit by lightning and grapple him so that Sidious zapped himself.Exactly he held the Emperor off long enough for the rebels to get in the ship. Galen knew he would not survive, and opened himself up to the force releasing everything he had in him, leaving the Emperor completely unharmed.
True, but he's Luke frigging Skywalker. There's no shame in not being as good as him.I can name quite a few who are more skilled than him. True, there is not many more powerful... But skilled? Yeah.Galen's combat skill is a lot better than most other Jedi, Sith etc. There aren't many who surpass him.