Darth Bane Vs Galen Marek

Started by mattatom6 pages

Originally posted by truejedi
That's what she said.
Yes, yes she did.

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From all the books, I would love to see both of them go all out in the Force. Between what Galen did to Vader and Palp aboard the Death Star and the lightning and force blast that Bane has it would be intense indeed.

I love me some Bane, but I'm honestly unsure how this one would go.

When Bane fought less powerful Kasim, he took time to gather power and gave Force blast capable to shatter all bones and liquefy flesh. Yet, Kasim managed to put barrier and block it.

And we have Marek giving several instant Force blasts that overpowered Sidious.
So we have Bane unable to Force blast less powerful opponent, even though he took time to gather power. And we have Marek, whose instant Force blasts put on the floor the most powerful Sith of all time.

If Bane can take any advantage over Marek, that would be in lightsaber combat but not in the Force.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
I love me some Bane, but I'm honestly unsure how this one would go.

I agree.

Originally posted by Arhael
When Bane fought less powerful Kasim, he took time to gather power and gave Force blast capable to shatter all bones and liquefy flesh. Yet, Kasim managed to put barrier and block it.

And we have Marek giving several instant Force blasts that overpowered Sidious.
So we have Bane unable to Force blast less powerful opponent, even though he took time to gather power. And we have Marek, whose instant Force blasts put on the floor the most powerful Sith of all time.

If Bane can take any advantage over Marek, that would be in lightsaber combat but not in the Force.

The technique of shielding oneself from a force blast seems to be one that was much more understood and widely taught during the Old Republic. Not sure if it was lost or what but with most of the battles in the "modern" era I don't really recall accounts of opponents deflecting force blasts from attackers. This is just off-hand, so as any proof to the contrary is welcome.

Originally posted by Arhael
When Bane fought less powerful Kasim, he took time to gather power and gave Force blast capable to shatter all bones and liquefy flesh. Yet, Kasim managed to put barrier and block it.

This feat is less impressive when you take into account the fact that Lehon was a Force nexus that apparently put Korriban to shame.

Korriban was weak at that time. It was hardly even a nexus anymore.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
The technique of shielding oneself from a force blast seems to be one that was much more understood and widely taught during the Old Republic. Not sure if it was lost or what but with most of the battles in the "modern" era I don't really recall accounts of opponents deflecting force blasts from attackers. This is just off-hand, so as any proof to the contrary is welcome.
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Originally posted by Pwned
Korriban was weak at that time. It was hardly even a nexus anymore.

Book of Sith confirms that Korriban continued to lose potency well into Sidious's reign as Emperor. It is still referred to as a dark side nexus in all the source material and is potent enough to hamper the likes of Luke and Jaina during their battle with the Sith in Fate of the Jedi.

Originally posted by Arhael
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An excellent, well thought-out retort. I commend your efforts.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
An excellent, well thought-out retort. I commend your efforts.

I am sorry, just couldn't hold myself. Name any famous Jedi/Sith from PT or RotJ and after I will give example of them resisting TK at one or another point.
Here just few examples:
There are countless examples of Luke blocking TK. The most famous example was him resisting Force blast empowered by millions killiks. In film Obi-Wan and Anakin were resisting each other's TK. In CW both Obi-Wan and Anakin resisted Opress' Force wave. Anakin in one of the episodes resisted Ventress' TK.
Dooku's Force push in one of the later episodes merely staggered Anakin, while his TK was enough to instantly break metal objects like that huge pillar in AotC.
And Marek's TK was powerful enough to explode a ship. The lone fact that Palpatine didn't turn into smear proves that he was proficient at resisting TK. Moreover, it is strange to assume that the most powerful Sith of all time did not have knowledge of how to utilize such a basic Force ability as defense against TK.

I dunno, just doesn't seem like it was utilized to the same extent, or maybe it's just that in some of the newer era novels it's not described as vividly. About to finish up LOTF and a lot of the duels just seem to be lacking intensity. Could all come down to the writing I guess. I mean, for whatever reason it feels like after reading about one Force user pushing an entire fleet of Star Destroyers out of orbit, albeit at the cost of his life, something seems to fall short.

Maybe I'm just high on Bane, no? Could happen to anyone.

LOTF sucks dick. Maybe thats it.

Except for the Mandalore's actually getting some characterization, yeah, pretty much a total let-down.

I do think I need to read the books for Ep I-III and the off-shoots that happpen between though because I recall more than one person mentioning that you get a much better idea of all the Force-users abilities.

You should definately read the RotS novel. ****ing amazing in my opinion.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You should definately read the RotS novel. ****ing amazing in my opinion.

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LotF has some good duels! Luke/Caedus

Spoiler:
with Ben spectating
was pretty intense, and I consider the fight that Mara won to be one of the finest in the mythos.

FotJ has the worst Jedi fight scenes ever. Anytime a lightsaber is lit, the narration turns into "they fight." Han/Leia get some cool combat feats, though ;\

Originally posted by Zampanó
the fight that Mara won

Her fight with Lumiya? That was kind of cool I guess.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
I dunno, just doesn't seem like it was utilized to the same extent, or maybe it's just that in some of the newer era novels it's not described as vividly. About to finish up LOTF and a lot of the duels just seem to be lacking intensity. Could all come down to the writing I guess. I mean, for whatever reason it feels like after reading about one Force user pushing an entire fleet of Star Destroyers out of orbit, albeit at the cost of his life, something seems to fall short.

Maybe I'm just high on Bane, no? Could happen to anyone.


I would blame variable Force portrayal.

Anytime a lightsaber is lit, the narration turns into "they fight.
That's at least something. In Luke's case he shows up and then walks with already unlit lightsaber among dead bodies. The only Luke's portrayed lightsaber fight I remember was against Abeloth, when he blocked single lightsaber strike and next instance Force pulled her on his lightsaber.
The only lightsaber fight I liked was Jaina's.

Her fight with Lumiya? That was kind of cool I guess.
Headbutting Lumya's metal chin was the most epic part. 😄

Thanks for the insult Lucien. Tell me, you can dish it out, but can you take it thrown back at you?