Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You do need to reread it, or channel your past-quanchi112. Because you focus on how SMP in the sun easily threw off a whole horde of heroes. Well guess what? A hurt Black Adam who didn't have the benefit of healing was doing that even when heavily messed up. So he matched SMP's feat, while severely messed up. That's what you keep trying to ignore. But it's staring you right here, right now. In black and white.And you already admitted that Superman's ability to destroy planets with his fists means he can easily and effortlessly move planets. Sorry if your own quanchilogic flipped your arguments upside down. It is your fault after all.
What do you mean? What's the Ion fight prove? Uh, no. Look at the last page. You said the armor "was never damaged." You were wrong. Quaneuvers don't work when you can simply look at the post in question. Since a random alternate GL can rupture the suit, guardian-amped Prime who is far more powerful likely weakened it unless you think that random alternate GL's attack was stronger than all of guardian-amped SMP's attacks combined prior to suit tearing. That'd be really funny if you just cornered yourself into that conclusion.
I answered the question. You wanted to know if Superman could replicate the suit-tearing feat. If he was bloodlusted, expended an entire guardian-amp fighting Monarch, and Monarch let his guard down, bloodlusted Superman could rip the suit. Concerning your purported "superior debating prowess," who was more superior, past-quanchi112 or present-quanchi112? Cause between the two of you, one of you is right and the other is an incredible retard. You can pick.
By the power of dur, I say thee NAY! Projecting victory onto oneself and puffing your chest with false bravado is usually seen as obnoxious. With you though, it's oddly disturbing, like "Do you really believe that? Even if you didn't... like... what would possess you to type that out for people to see?" Take a breath, kiddo. It's comics.
While i agree with you on these points and argument... I did find it ironic u accused him of false bravado, victory n chest puffing... when i've seen u do this numerous times
Originally posted by quanchi112Getting heavily damaged does = losing an amp. It's the exact same principle showed when Monarch drained SMP of his amp, because he kept beating on SMP. And Black Adam was getting beat on by the JSA, JLA, Great Ten, etc. Black Adam was described as a "dying beast" by the end of it, IIRC. You keep focusing on how Prime easily tossed them aside at full power and forget that Black Adam was easily tossing them aside straight on through to the end. They had to bring the lightning to him. I'm wondering if you ever read the end of World War III at all. Do you not understand what the inverse ninja law is?
Tanking hits doesn't equate losing power up it just means he got messed up while being more powerful than usual. Prime tossed them aside while BA almost had his face burnt off and was overcome.No, because Superman has never destroyed one on panel an dwe have never seen him to my knowledge effortlessly move one as quickly as Prime did. We've seen quite the opposite.
That Prime needs time to beat down top tiers unlike Thanos.
You don't like your quanchilogic undermining your conclusion? Then back away from it. because your admission that Superman destroys a planet with his fists = movinga planet easily in your book.
I still don't understand what the point of bringing up Ion is. Are you downplaying SMP's fight with Ion?
Originally posted by quanchi112Unlikely. If an alternate GL can rupture his suit, it likely took a pounding fighting a Guardian-amped SMP. Your reasoning discards common sense and utterly contradict what you said when arguing Thanos vs SMP.
It was never damaged in the fight against Prime. I have already explianed myself and my reasoning onedodge dooy do. My stances always make perrfect sense while yours don't. Sucks to be you.I stated if both were fine and Monarch allowed them to fly up and tear open his suit who would do better? You dodged.
You are such a sore loser.
Too bad that isn't what happened. Bloodlusted Superman wouldn't do any better or worse than SMP did if Monarch had just fought him for an entire issue with a guardian-amp. You straw-manned.
And you need to not take this so seriously. It's disturbing. When you take my banana dancing gif that makes fun of your victory proclamation and seize upon it as if it were some sort of admission to be highlighted to other posters, that's disturbing. Keep your feet on the ground.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiIf you hadn't noticed, I reflect back people's behavior towards me right back at them. It's my thing.
While i agree with you on these points and argument... I did find it ironic u accused him of false bravado, victory n chest puffing... when i've seen u do this numerous times
Any bravado that is displayed independently of such tactics is 100% authentic, genuine obnoxiousness. uhuh
Originally posted by OneDumbG0No, it doesn't. I've never heard of such a thing. He still had the power he just was getting beaten up badly.
Getting heavily damaged does = losing an amp. It's the exact same principle showed when Monarch drained SMP of his amp, because he kept beating on SMP. And Black Adam was getting beat on by the JSA, JLA, Great Ten, etc. Black Adam was described as a "dying beast" by the end of it, IIRC. You keep focusing on how Prime easily tossed them aside at full power and forget that Black Adam was easily tossing them aside straight on through to the end. They had to bring the lightning to him. I'm wondering if you ever read the end of World War III at all. Do you not understand what the inverse ninja law is?You don't like your quanchilogic undermining your conclusion? Then back away from it. because your admission that Superman destroys a planet with his fists = movinga planet easily in your book.
I still don't understand what the point of bringing up Ion is. Are you downplaying SMP's fight with Ion? Unlikely. If an alternate GL can rupture his suit, it likely took a pounding fighting a Guardian-amped SMP. Your reasoning discards common sense and utterly contradict what you said when arguing Thanos vs SMP.
Too bad that isn't what happened. Bloodlusted Superman wouldn't do any better or worse than SMP did if Monarch had just fought him for an entire issue with a guardian-amp. You straw-manned.
And you need to not take this so seriously. It's disturbing. When you take my banana dancing gif that makes fun of your victory proclamation and seize upon it as if it were some sort of admission to be highlighted to other posters, that's disturbing. Keep your feet on the ground. If you hadn't noticed, I reflect back people's behavior towards me right back at them. It's my thing.
Any bravado that is displayed independently of such tactics is 100% authentic, genuine obnoxiousness. uhuh
Prime's amp was temporary and it was noted and drawn in when he lost in. That's completely different as they made it apparent. Isis' powers don't just melt away.
Yes, I read it and it still says the same. Black Adam was overwhelmed and beaten while Prime easily shrugged them off. How much longer do you think BA would have lasted?
I am not downplaying it I am simply saying it wasn't as decisive as a victory as Thanos had over Surfer. I see Prime needed a bit of time to beat down superman much like the Ion fight, but I don't see Ion or Superman taking a single win from Prime.
Rupture and completely rip open aren't the same things and we are talking about strength here.
You are speculating and nothing during the battle suggested his suit was weakened.
You seem to be threatened by me and I feel for you for it. Just relax and don't go searching through old posts of mine and don't take them out of context again.
Originally posted by quanchi112You've never heard of a person having their amp blunted by being beaten up? Yo, McFly: Guardian-amp SMP.
No, it doesn't. I've never heard of such a thing. He still had the power he just was getting beaten up badly.Prime's amp was temporary and it was noted and drawn in when he lost in. That's completely different as they made it apparent. Isis' powers don't just melt away.
Yes, I read it and it still says the same. Black Adam was overwhelmed and beaten while Prime easily shrugged them off. How much longer do you think BA would have lasted?
Isis' power may not just evaporate for no reason, but Black Adam's face was melting away for a reason, because he was getting pounded on by everybody. And STILL throwing them off at the very end.
Black Adam was never overwhelmed. He was throwing off heroes left and right into the very panels leading up to the lightning being brought down on him. You... you didn't read the ending did you?
Originally posted by quanchi112So you changed your mind that it's complete speculation whether SMP beats Superman. Superman, who in your own words, "has been overpowered many times but has managed to defeat his opponent. Now i am not saying that Superman defeats prime but until Prime beats him decisively all you are doing is speculating." And yet, now it's SMP 10/10. You went from "complete speculation" to 10/10 SMP. And you don't see the disconnect there?
I am not downplaying it I am simply saying it wasn't as decisive as a victory as Thanos had over Surfer. I see Prime needed a bit of time to beat down superman much like the Ion fight, but I don't see Ion or Superman taking a single win from Prime.Rupture and completely rip open aren't the same things and we are talking about strength here.
You are speculating and nothing during the battle suggested his suit was weakened.
You seem to be threatened by me and I feel for you for it. Just relax and don't go searching through old posts of mine and don't take them out of context again.
Yes, the strength of Monarch's armor. It got ruptured by an alternate GL's blast. To suggest that it completely withstood a Guardian-amped SMP's attack over an entire issue without any damage whatsoever is nonsense.
Except that Monarch fought a Guardian-amped Prime for an entire issue.
Threatened? No, good sir. Amused. Very, very amused. Sorry if bringing up past-quanchi112 was embarassing for you. I figure if anybody would convince you, it'd be yourself. There's no context to take them out of. You've done a complete 180 degree turnaround now that Thanos isn't in the picture. Like I said, threatened? No, good sir. Amused. Very, very amused.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I just stated that biff. It was noted in the comic as temporary. Not all amps are the same biff.
You've never heard of a person having their amp blunted by being beaten up? Yo, McFly: Guardian-amp SMP.Isis' power may not just evaporate for no reason, but Black Adam's face was melting away for a reason, because he was getting pounded on by everybody. And STILL throwing them off at the very end.
Black Adam was never overwhelmed. He was throwing off heroes left and right into the very panels leading up to the lightning being brought down on him. You... you didn't read the ending did you? So you changed your mind that it's complete speculation whether SMP beats Superman. Superman, who in your own words, "has been overpowered many times but has managed to defeat his opponent. Now i am not saying that Superman defeats prime but until Prime beats him decisively all you are doing is speculating." And yet, now it's SMP 10/10. You went from "complete speculation" to 10/10 SMP. And you don't see the disconnect there?
Yes, the strength of Monarch's armor. It got ruptured by an alternate GL's blast. To suggest that it completely withstood a Guardian-amped SMP's attack over an entire issue without any damage whatsoever is nonsense.
Except that Monarch fought a Guardian-amped Prime for an entire issue.
Threatened? No, good sir. Amused. Very, very amused. Sorry if bringing up past-quanchi112 was embarassing for you. I figure if anybody would convince you, it'd be yourself. There's no context to take them out of. You've done a complete 180 degree turnaround now that Thanos isn't in the picture. Like I said, threatened? No, good sir. Amused. Very, very amused.
He was overwhelmed as Marvel brought down the thunder. Prime just shrugged them off like minor irritants.
To suggest it's an utter beatdown like the Thanos fight you bet your ass. I said it's still a win for Prime but not one that will happen as easily as the one it was compared to.
Why not? No damage was noticed so to suggest there was is complete speculation on your part.
In the end you embarrassed yourself. You also accused me of beating my chest when another poster came in and called you a hypocrite. I won this debate. Prime is much stronger than Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I just stated that biff. It was noted in the comic as temporary. Not all amps are the same biff.He was overwhelmed as Marvel brought down the thunder. Prime just shrugged them off like minor irritants.
To suggest it's an utter beatdown like the Thanos fight you bet your ass. I said it's still a win for Prime but not one that will happen as easily as the one it was compared to.
Why not? No damage was noticed so to suggest there was is complete speculation on your part.
In the end you embarrassed yourself. You also accused me of beating my chest when another poster came in and called you a hypocrite. I won this debate. Prime is much stronger than Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112Wait... are you really suggesting that the Isis' amp made Black Adam into an opponent who retained the same level of strength, durability, endurance and lasting power... no matter how much he got pounded on?
I just stated that biff. It was noted in the comic as temporary. Not all amps are the same biff.He was overwhelmed as Marvel brought down the thunder. Prime just shrugged them off like minor irritants.
To suggest it's an utter beatdown like the Thanos fight you bet your ass. I said it's still a win for Prime but not one that will happen as easily as the one it was compared to.
Black Adam did not get overwhelmed. Not even close. You seriously need ot reread the end of World War III again.
Past-quanchi112: "until Prime beats him decisively all you are doing is speculating." Current-quanchi112: "SMP 10/10." Past-quanchi112: Noting Superman's ability to overcome tough opponents and warning against speculating that he'd lose. Current-quanchi112: Superman would never win a single fight out of ten. And you still don't see the disconnect?
Originally posted by quanchi112Because when you fight someone, you get hurt. But then again, since you're so adamant that Black Adam never was reduced from his ampage, you're oddly consistent in arguing that Monarch was never damaged at all. But still lacking any common sense to make that conclusion.
Why not? No damage was noticed so to suggest there was is complete speculation on your part.In the end you embarrassed yourself. You also accused me of beating my chest when another poster came in and called you a hypocrite. I won this debate. Prime is much stronger than Superman.
Me turning your own inane logic against you and poking fun at you for throwing yourself a parade in every post =/= me being a hypocrite. I reflect you and your behavior back onto you. Don't displace that and project such tactics as evocative of my personality. You are the last person to be casting aspersions on hypocrisy. Seriously. The last person. Throw yourself another parade, make yourself a medal out of aluminum foil for all I care. Doesn't stop it from being any less distrurbing every time you stroke yourself in every single post.