How much stronger is Superboy Prime than Superman

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Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what though? The art? What?

Again, I am taking their feats and their confrontations and linking them up together. Do you think the writer's have written them as equals? I mean if you do I honestly don't see a good reason why to suggest they were written as such.

I've read many Superman issues but I don't need to as I have seen their comparisons already when on the same panel. If Hulk lifts something incredibly heavy that doesn't mean Thor couldn't.

Don't get hung up on feats so much.

Superman beat down a younger boy. That's it.

Based on common sense, you know, that what you preach about. You are really an common sense preacher, believing in somthing you will never understand.
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Both acted accordingly to their character. One is a boy scout the other one is an psychopathic Kryptonian.

You have not seen a real comparison, one reasons while the other is raging. 😐

I will remind you of this one. 😉

A posioned Superman took an depowering flight through an Red Sun better then Prime and beat him. Better durability i would say.

kakuzu A new heart I see!!

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Based on common sense, you know, that what you preach about. You are really an common sense preacher, believing in somthing you will never understand.
😐

Both acted accordingly to their character. One is a boy scout the other one is an psychopathic Kryptonian.

You have not seen a real comparison, one reasons while the other is raging. 😐

I will remind you of this one. 😉

A posioned Superman took an depowering flight through an Red Sun better then Prime and beat him. Better durability i would say.

Depends of the poision. If the poision effects hid durability then yeah thats a good feat but if he if just dieing thats kind of like saying two guys died in a fire one had food poision and the other had nothing but the one with food poision died a little after. Plus Prime should be stronger, he never held back, he wore a suit to amp his strength up. Usually when your a kryptonian of daxamite your already near Supermans level as they use to say for Mon el and original Supergirl who was infact marked higher than superman in strength only due to the fact she wasn't holding back and he had mental blocks though.

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist
Originally posted by kakuzu
Depends of the poision. If the poision effects hid durability then yeah thats a good feat but if he if just dieing thats kind of like saying two guys died in a fire one had food poision and the other had nothing but the one with food poision died a little after. Plus Prime should be stronger, he never held back, he wore a suit to amp his strength up. Usually when your a kryptonian of daxamite your already near Supermans level as they use to say for Mon el and original Supergirl who was infact marked higher than superman in strength only due to the fact she wasn't holding back and he had mental blocks though.

I agree. It weakens him, that's what Kryptonite does, it makes him weaker with each second till he dies.

And I think once he was depowered, with all the Kryptonite around him, and seeing Kal-L die, he went all out 😄.

kakuzu A new heart I see!!

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I agree. It weakens him, that's what Kryptonite does, it makes him weaker with each second till he dies.

And I think once he was depowered, with all the Kryptonite around him, and seeing Kal-L die, he went all out 😄.

Oh its was green k poisoning? (What other kind can there be lol) if thats the case its a great show of durability then.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Based on common sense, you know, that what you preach about. You are really an common sense preacher, believing in somthing you will never understand.
😐

Both acted accordingly to their character. One is a boy scout the other one is an psychopathic Kryptonian.

You have not seen a real comparison, one reasons while the other is raging. 😐

I will remind you of this one. 😉

A posioned Superman took an depowering flight through an Red Sun better then Prime and beat him. Better durability i would say.

We've seen Monarch get pouned on prior to and his armor was never damaged. We see no evidence of it being damaged and yet you say it was weakened prior to?

So? I guess you dismiss Superman's actions against any villain because he's a good guy and holds back.

How haven't I? Are you saying Superman doesn't care that lives are at stake?

Their powers shorted out and a man beat a boy. You do realize without his powers he's just a kid, right?

JakeTheBank Return of the King
Originally posted by quanchi112
Their powers shorted out and a man beat a boy. You do realize without his powers he's just a kid, right?

To be fair, it was a depowered poisoned man (lots of K-nite exposure effecting mainstream Supes, where it had no effect on Prime or e-2) versus a depowered kid.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
To be fair, it was a depowered poisoned man (lots of K-nite exposure effecting mainstream Supes, where it had no effect on Prime or e-2) versus a depowered kid.

Not to mention he got smacked in the face by a chunk of kryptonite.

Blanket Dead

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
To be fair, it was a depowered poisoned man (lots of K-nite exposure effecting mainstream Supes, where it had no effect on Prime or e-2) versus a depowered kid.
The thing to add in though, is that Prime's suit was destroyed, and there's no way he was back up to full power, and he just went through a red sun as well. So it kind of evens out in a way.

As well as him expending the rest of his energy killing other Supes.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Blanket
The thing to add in though, is that Prime's suit was destroyed, and there's no way he was back up to full power, and he just went through a red sun as well. So it kind of evens out in a way.

As well as him expending the rest of his energy killing other Supes.


They were both depowered. The difference is that Superman was in pain and weakened further by the Kryptonite. The fact he won is a testament to his heroic resolve.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Originally posted by Blanket
The thing to add in though, is that Prime's suit was destroyed, and there's no way he was back up to full power, and he just went through a red sun as well. So it kind of evens out in a way.

As well as him expending the rest of his energy killing other Supes.

I suppose in a way, yeah. I guess you would have to compare Prime's state of physical being (suit destroyed, depowered, any fatigue loss due to killing E-2 to death) versus Superman's (depowered, exposed to massive k-nite, blasted with weak to moderate power heat vision) and come to your own conclusion who was worse off.

Blanket Dead

Originally posted by Omega Vision
They were both depowered. The difference is that Superman was in pain and weakened further by the Kryptonite. The fact he won is a testament to his heroic resolve.
I realize. I'm just saying that Prime wasn't only weakened due to the sun. And it sort of equals out to the Krypo radiation in a way. Prime was double depowered, but Superman was also depowered, and dying, in other words.

Either way, it's not a good source to go off of, except willpower I guess.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

quanchi112: Just found some interesting quotes from a certain poster on some of your purported points.

1) On the comparison between SMP and Black Adam's rampages, you state, "I suggest you reread it because Black Adam didn't throw off Superman like Prime did so making a claim that his showings are equal to Prime's is laughable to say the least." And here we have a certain poster's response:

Originally posted by quanchi112
In WW3 Black Adam was doing much better than Prime imo with regards to causing damage and kicking the shit out of them all. Prime was basically always on the run.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Everyone in ww 3 wanted to put Black Adam down while In the Sinestro Corps it was two gigantic armies going at it. So as I see it WW 3 Black Adam looked more impressive as they were all focusing on him while Prime started cheapshotting character after character. There was lots of confusion and it took place so quickly.
2) On another point, you state that, "The planet moving feat which Prime did like he was holding a basketball while superman was busy moving a car with help." And here we have a certain poster's response, who basically stated that you can easily move a planet but not necessarily destroy a planet, i.e., it's much harder to destroy a planet. Of course, the same poster than admits (like I do) that Superman can destroy a planet:
Originally posted by quanchi112
Pick up a rock. now pick it up and try to destroy it under your own power. Whats harder? I bet you can pick it up easily and move it but I bet you cant destroy it under your own power.

So with that being said its harder to destroy a planet than move one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are forgetting we don't even know how many punches it would take to do so and how quickly also. Superman claims he can destroy a planet with his punches. Do I agree that both can, yes.
3) And on this, "Do you feel Superman can beat Prime in a one on one fight?" And here we have a certain poster's response:
Originally posted by quanchi112
When did Superman have a one on one fight with Prime other than when he defeated him in infinite crisis? Did Prime defeat Superman? Supes has been overpowered many times but has managed to defeat his opponent. Now i am not saying that Superman defeats prime but until Prime beats him decisively all you are doing is speculating.
4) Then of course, the whole ripping Monarch's armor feat. You essentially have been cornered into arguing that Guardian-amped Prime did not weaken or even affect Monarch's armor, so ripping it is all SMP at normal unamped levels. You even go so far as to say at the tope of this page, "We've seen Monarch get pouned on prior to and his armor was never damaged." And here, we have a certain poster's reponse:
Originally posted by quanchi112
A green lantern affected his armor. All Prime did was tear his armor off which was impressive but not the greatest thing ever. 😉
Originally posted by quanchi112
Didnt Hal Jordan affect him.

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This came out of Monarchs mouth.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ Now is anybody curious as to why current-quanchi112 had such diametrically opposed opinions before as to past-quanchi112? Do you guys really want to know? Better yet... do you want to know, quanchi112?

Isn't the answer obvious? Nearly all those quoted posts involved a Thanos vs Superman Prime thread. And in all those quoted posts, you were arguing that SMP loses to Thanos by downplaying everything that SMP did.

Funny how things work out to bite you in the butt later... peaches

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!

Originally posted by Philosophía
At least he managed to not get stuck at your first argument.

Who's idea was it to let Starscream judge an actual debate? And Team "PP"? Really?

That being said, I'm with Team PP *immature snicker* that Superman's not very far behind Prime, strengthwise. I think Lo3W only went closer to proving that, really.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Now is anybody curious as to why current-quanchi112 had such diametrically opposed opinions before as to past-quanchi112? Do you guys really want to know? Better yet... do you want to know, quanchi112?

Isn't the answer obvious? Nearly all those quoted posts involved a Thanos vs Superman Prime thread. And in all those quoted posts, you were arguing that SMP loses to Thanos by downplaying everything that SMP did.

Funny how things work out to bite you in the butt later... peaches


I've said it before, he has levels of fanboyism with Thanos at the top followed by Thor, a slew of Marvel characters, and then Prime.

iceman24567 Senior Member

LOL at Quans bull being called out again

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by iceman24567
LOL at Quans bull being called out again

He makes it really easy.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Now is anybody curious as to why current-quanchi112 had such diametrically opposed opinions before as to past-quanchi112?peaches
Because he does that in every thread to suit whichever character he wants to go for.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Damn lol. That's all I can say.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

I've been meaning to pull up Quan's many double standards for a while but I've never had the energy to do it or the will to sift through such horrible debates. Kudos to ODG for fighting the good fight.