How much stronger is Superboy Prime than Superman

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Who is superboy prime?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He's Clark Kent from Earth Prime. He's an insane psychopathic teenager who makes a job out of doing the impossible much to the annoyance of a lot of comics readers.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Much like Thanos

quanchi112: Oh, my GOD! shock Thanos is a Superman-ripoff?!?!?!?!! 😘 *quanchi112 runs to a bathroom to throw up* puke

Originally posted by Blanket
My post also applies to you.

Allow me to explain.

Superman supporters explain that Superman gets dynamic strength from not holding back. They argue that despite him getting raped by Prime, his dynamic strength unleashed in a battle would destroy Prime, or allow him to look equal.
Dynamic strength in this case, would be an upgrade, as it is explained by the Superman fans as him having way more strength than usual.

Thanos' battle with Odin was him getting beat on. You claim that an upgrade would surpass Odin's level based on the same thing the Superman supporters do... a vague upgrade in power.

If neither sides can find a parallel between the two, then I've overestimated both sides. Mean while, I'm jerking to the irony.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Why not at that moment? That would gauge them equally. If you really want the same scenario, then that's the scenario, right then and there, could a blood-lusted Superman do what SMP did?

Because you don't know the answer! peaches

Not really! vin

Kicking the holy crap out of several heroes/villains all by his lonesome like SMP did (although he still wasn't bloodlusted, as he wasn't killing em... cept maybe with the Imperiex drones which weren't strictly alive...). I think it's different. Because Superman does hold back. He definitely wasn't blood-lusted when confronting SMP. Also, most of SMP's aggrandization comes from his rampages against groups of heroes. However, that completely ignores the inverse ninja law, i.e., the more ninjas (here, heroes) you throw at a problem all at once, the less effective they are.

The main difference between Thanos/Odin proponents is that Thanos was going all out and the myth that he got a strength/power upgrade is just that, a pure myth. And that is distinguishable from Superman/SMP proponents who argue that Superman isn't going all out. I don't jive with the whole "dynamic strength" card, but the things that SMP did, I don't see requiring "dynamic strength" from Superman. Just a bloodlust and a bit more strength, e.g., WWIII Black Adam. So my opinion isn't reliant on the myth of "dynamic strength."

Another distinction is that SMP is going all out. That is fairly evident. And I don't think Odin went all out or anywhere even close to all out against Thanos. So that expands the disconnect between the two situations for me personally.

If you want to ignore all of Prime's showings and continue to reach go ahead.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Much like Thanos

I don't think I've seen anyone so thoroughly destroying quanchi, from every angle. Not that it's in any way difficult, but the patience this kind of stuff implies is something that few have.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't think I've seen anyone so thoroughly destroying quanchi, from every angle. Not that it's in any way difficult, but the patience this kind of stuff implies is something that few have.

Originally posted by Philosophía
but the patience

Which is the most impressive part.

patience it implies.... ummmm... takes you mean. What ever happened to that battlezone between batprude and quan?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
patience it implies.... ummmm... takes you mean. What ever happened to that battlezone between batprude and quan?

Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't think I've seen anyone so thoroughly destroying quanchi, from every angle. Not that it's in any way difficult, but the patience this kind of stuff implies is something that few have.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
My guess would be Quan came to his senses and backed down to avoid a beatdown.

This Quanchi112 person really makes me not like anything she or he says. I'm guessing this is fairly common.

Originally posted by meep-meep
This Quanchi112 person really makes me not like anything she or he says. I'm guessing this is fairly common.

Originally posted by meep-meep
This Quanchi112 person really makes me not like anything she or he says. I'm guessing this is fairly common.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Good instinct. 🙂

Originally posted by meep-meep
This Quanchi112 person really makes me not like anything she or he says. I'm guessing this is fairly common.

It is. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t523762.html

Onedumb is doing good and he has done some research on this but its still kind of obvious who is stronger (much stronger) out of Superman and Superboy Prime.

It always took groups to stop prime, not a single character could take him whereas you can send either Captain Marvel or Adam to possible beat or subdue Superman or Wonder Woman to stalemate him.

The difference in power is very obvious. Prime towing that planet as easy as he did puts him above Supes at a large gap.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It is. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t523762.html

Originally posted by carver9
Onedumb is doing good and he has done some research on this but its still kind of obvious who is stronger (much stronger) out of Superman and Superboy Prime.

It always took groups to stop prime, not a single character could take him whereas you can send either Captain Marvel or Adam to possible beat or subdue Superman or Wonder Woman to stalemate him.

The difference in power is very obvious. Prime towing that planet as easy as he did puts him above Supes at a large gap.

^ Don't presume to speak for me. Your desperate need to have me end my involvement in this thread is painfully apparent when you prematurely celebrated beforehand without realizing I had responded a few pages back. My not posting immediately after you does not rehabilitate the gaps and contradictions in your position at all. Nor does my choice to end my involvement imbue your last-word tactics with any meaningfulness.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am asking you your opinion of them both coming up against a fresh Monarch and attempting to. Who does better?

If you want to ignore all of Prime's showings and continue to reach go ahead.

If you want to ignore all of the contradictions you've made and incorrect information you've relied on go ahead.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Don't presume to speak for me. Your desperate need to have me end my involvement in this thread is painfully apparent when you prematurely celebrated beforehand without realizing I had responded a few pages back. My not posting immediately after you does not rehabilitate the gaps and contradictions in your position at all. Nor does my choice to end my involvement imbue your last-word tactics with any meaningfulness. Pretty much the same if it's bloodlusted Superman.

If you want to ignore all of the contradictions you've made and incorrect information you've relied on go ahead.

What appearances put him even with Prime?

^ Exposing your self-serving flip-flopping and revealing your lack of reading comics =/= sidestepping and hypocrisy. Also, I just answered your question above. Blind, much?

In terms of team-busting rampages? Imperiex probes, curbstomping the Elite and JLA teams, come to mind. Read some comics.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Exposing your self-serving flip-flopping and revealing your lack of reading comics =/= sidestepping and hypocrisy. Also, I just answered your question above. Blind, much?

In terms of team-busting rampages? Imperiex probes, curbstomping the Elite and JLA teams, come to mind. Read some comics.

I've seen his not hod back against WW and I think if we substitute Prime in this situation she doesn't wake up again if he hits her.

^ Team busting rampages doesn't put Prime exponentially above Superman either. Superman fighting Darkseid has nothing to do with Superman unleashing himself on Imperiex probes which weren't strictly alive.

Your opinion.