The Living Tribunal VS The Man of Miracles

The Living Tribunal, the most powerful Abstract in Marvel and 2nd in command after TOAA.

VS

Man of Miracles, creator of Imageverse and the man known as Jesus Christ. Leader of the Twelve Disciples and master of God and Satan.

😕 Man o Miracles = One Above All

so spite against LT

Yeah this is basically the same as Spectre vs Presence.

MoM wins.

We don't know that. Maybe he has a superior.

and the "gods" in Spawnverse are weak. Im sure anyone skyfather level can kill them all off.

LT wins due to feats.

None of us can ensure an accurate conclusion in a thread like this.

bump

TOAA = Man of Miracles > LT

spite against Man of Miracles

I just wanted to prove a point.

Mods can close this thread now if they want to.

Originally posted by Cogito
TOAA = Man of Miracles > LT

Man of Miracles, Presence < TOAA

TOAA > LT

LT > DC

i'll stick with it to the end.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I just wanted to prove a point.

There are arguments for both sides, so close in fact that in the end it's up to interpretation.

Originally posted by Astner
There are arguments for both sides, so close in fact that in the end it's up to interpretation.

There's really no argument. There is zero ambiguity, as I understand it (not a Spawn reader), regarding MoM's status as the Supreme Being of Image.

Originally posted by Cogito
There's really no argument. There is zero ambiguity, as I understand it (not a Spawn reader), regarding MoM's status as the Supreme Being of Image.

it must be NECESSARY for him to be the supreme being of image, because he is not the supreme being of the omniverse.

LT's judgement will work just fine on MoM to keep him in his place.

remember, using "supreme" can always be contested and should not be relied upon unless it's TOAA, Marvels Supreme Being based around the omnipotent being.

if you want to wrongly equate MoM with TOAA -- the supreme being of the OMNIVERSE -- then this is a spite thread and MoM wins, otherwise LT wins at least 6/10. Hope that's fair, i'm out.

What makes TOAA the supreme being of the omniverse again?

marvel makes the most money?

i don't know Cogito, you tell me

I don't know what Jynocidus is taking but he believe LT is greater than the Presence and MOM because LT powers are absolute everywhere the the same is not true for beings who created multiverses.
This is my question how can LT who is just a care taker be more powerful than the Presence a being who is Infinite, Absolute, Extenal and supreme with the ability to create mutliverses.

Originally posted by Jynocidus
marvel makes the most money?

i don't know Cogito, you tell me

TOAA is the Supreme Being of Marvel because a writer decided it, and no other writers have since retconned that station.

MoM is the Supreme Being of Image because a writer decided it, and no other writers have since retconned that station.

look, even in worst case scenario if you want to blow this out of proportions -- lets say TOAA isn't supreme being in the omniverse.

LT is STILL an omniversal judge. If you think outside of the box, say the supreme being of Marvel manifests some phenomenal power from the real TOAA (whoever you believe in) just to bring Marvel and LT into the world.

MoM STILL can't escape Necessity.

MOM is also Necessity in Image, He possesses all LT powers and responsible and more on a greater scales. LT is the judge of marvel omniverse, image and DC.

"Supreme being" is a title that is frankly only really relevant in the verse said being comes from.

I don't read Spawn, so the MoM may have the feats/scale (In the sense that he both embodies and is stronger than beings with amazing feats, size of what he created counts too) to win this, but "LULHESGOD" is a shitty argument.