Squall & Sephiroth vs Dart and Lloyd

I couldn't agree more with fascistcrusader. We forgot about Sephiroth here, he owns Lloyd.

In what way does Sephiroth own Lloyd?

In the way that Sephiroth is the most talented swordsman in the Final Fantasy universe.

In the way that he has attacks that can break down dimensional barriers. Or the way that he's millions of times faster than Lloyd, is telekinetic, and has shown far more strength. Or maybe it's the way that he could just dissolve him with the Negative Lifestream.

There is no negative Lifestream present in this fight. The lifestream is tied to the planet and in materia, which is crystalized lifestream. The lifestream is composed of the memories of the people who died on the planet.

Sephiroth is not shown to be any faster than Lloyd. They both move swiftly, have dopplegangers, etc. Although, Lloyd possesses DBZ style beams. That's always a plus 😄

They are also equal in swordsmanship, judging from the FF7 and ACC. The main difference is that Lloyd is actually sane.

Sephiroth is described as the blade master in a universe full of incredibly talented swordsmen like Cecil, Squall, Zack, etc. No one in gaming has equal skill with a blade.

I tend to disagree. He uses nothing but worn out cliche anime techs that have been done by just about every swordsman and then loses to someone swinging a sword like a madman (omnislash).
If he was so great, there is no reason that he should be beaten by that move.

Do you know why the cliche anime techs are cliche, 5L? Because they work. If they didn't ,they wouldn't have become cliche, and honestly, in this case I think the cliche trumps Lloyd's skills.

Lloyd's skill looks pretty much the same to me.

The only thing I saw even remotely similar from Lloyd was that teleporting strike he used on Dart in their first meeting. After that he still has fast strikes, but no 'porting, just zooming in, which Sephiroth seem to do in a much better fashion.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Lloyd's skill looks pretty much the same to me.

I'm a The Legend Of Dragoon fan, but I don't really know at 100% what are Lloyd's true abilities, plus, I haven't played the game in years.
I know he's pretty strong and stuff but...
The question is, Lloyd can beat Sephiroth? If you think so, you must provide something that suggests that, otherwise, it's useless only to: "think".

There's no reason to think it though, Lloyd has simply never shown power comparable to Sephiroth, and Sephiroth has never shown us his full strength. Sephiroth could simply pull him onto his sword telekinetically, he wouldn't even have to use his swordsmanship.

Yeah... I know. Although, like I said in some of my previous posts, Lloyd killed Lavitz (in his Dragoon form) just stabbing him through his chest. Lloyd is not a push-over, but he's definitely not in Sephiroth's league, I'm not saying he couldn't give Sephiroth a good fight though.

I actually think I agree that team FF wins. I'd say Dart > Squall to some extent, but Sephiroth > Loyd by that same extent, if not a little more. In the end, FF can outfight LoD.

I'd say FF takes it 7/10 times.

I'd say FF team takes it 6/10.

I think Squall > Dart.

Agreed.

I dont agree with that.
I just think that Lloyd doesn't have the feats to take Seph for sure, and Dart cant take them both.

Wait a second.
In this fight Dart and Lloyd are in their normal forms?

No. Dart has the option of both dragoons and Lloyd has his Wingly form.