Squall & Sephiroth vs Dart and Lloyd

Started by GrieverSquall5 pages

What about the Final Fantasy team? They are allowed to use everything?

That would only be fair. I try not to give certain parties unfair advantages just so they can win.

I see, so no Summons for the FF team? It doesn't matter.
Squall > Dart
Sephiroth > Lloyd

(I'm not saying Dart can't defeat Squall in one match, but I'm sure Lloyd can't win any against Sephiroth)

Well, my view is that Dart would barely beat either of them 1v1, but two in a row or both at the same time is a definite loss.

I see.
Care to explain how?

Let's say that Sephiroth decided to sit back and let Dart and Squall duke it out. In human form, Squall wins, hands down because his limit breaks are better than anything that Dart can do in human form.
In Dragoon, however, the ability of flight alone puts Squall at a huge disadvantage from before.

It would probably end with Dart spamming Divine Dragon Ball till Squall flees or is finished. Basically, Squall cant reach him.

Sephiroth would be a little tougher since he can fly. It's probably a 50/50 for him, but Dart dealt with Lloyd, who has very a similar combat style. Really, I see it going down the same way it went down with Cloud, except replace Omnislash with a perfect Dragoon combo, and Dart can fly, unlike Cloud.

Still, its a 50/50.

Flight puts Squall at a minor disadvantage, at best. Assuming he doesn't have the leg strength to just jump at Dart, which he more than likely does, he can avoid the dragon spam and counter with magic, even something as basic as fire or thunder.

Hell, if he really wanted to, he could cast reflect and send Dart's attack back on him.

Sephiroth's even worse because he's even more adept at magic than Squall, plus he can fly negating that disadvantage.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Flight puts Squall at a minor disadvantage, at best. Assuming he doesn't have the leg strength to just jump at Dart, which he more than likely does, he can avoid the dragon spam and counter with magic, even something as basic as fire or thunder.

Flight > jump
Fire is going to heal him, thunder is not very effective.

Originally posted by XanatosForever

Hell, if he really wanted to, he could cast reflect and send Dart's attack back on him.

Sephiroth's even worse because he's even more adept at magic than Squall, plus he can fly negating that disadvantage.

You're going to reflect Final Burst? I don't see it.
I agree on Sephiroth, but I still think it's 50/50.

Anyway, it doesn't matter, because according to the rules of this thread, FF team already won.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Flight > jump
Fire is going to heal him, thunder is not very effective.

Those were examples and you know it, 5L. 😛 My point is he doesn't have to have flight to fight back effectively.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
You're going to reflect Final Burst? I don't see it.
I agree on Sephiroth, but I still think it's 50/50.

I may be overstating things. I know for a fact that Reflect work against all magical abilities, but I don't recall if they also worked against special abilities that function as projectiles.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Anyway, it doesn't matter, because according to the rules of this thread, FF team already won.

Aww, and I was having fun. I still say watching a Squall/Dart match would be awesome. 😆

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Those were examples and you know it, 5L. 😛 My point is he doesn't have to have flight to fight back effectively.

There is no way to argue that a leap is going to compete with flight effectively. Dart can merely float a few meters to the side to dodge an assault, unless we are talking about PIS where Dart is supposed to stand in the way of the attack like Sephiroth and Omnislash.


I may be overstating things. I know for a fact that Reflect work against all magical abilities, but I don't recall if they also worked against special abilities that function as projectiles.

Final burst is a magic attack where Dart engulfs his body in molten flame and runs the enemy through with his sword. I don't see reflect working on that. It seems that FF classification for "magic" is not the same as LoD's.


Aww, and I was having fun. I still say watching a Squall/Dart match would be awesome.

Oh well. At least Dart got a little respect. 😛

Originally posted by LLLLLink
In Dragoon, however, the ability of flight alone puts Squall at a huge disadvantage from before.

Squall can fight flying enemies perfectly. I'd say Dart's advantages in his Dragoon form are the Magic Spells and sword skills. But Squall can use Magic as well.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
It would probably end with Dart spamming Divine Dragon Ball till Squall flees or is finished. Basically, Squall cant reach him.

Huh? And Squall will wait for Dart to finishing him with the Divine Dragon Balls?

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Squall can fight flying enemies perfectly. I'd say Dart's advantages in his Dragoon form are the Magic Spells and sword skills. But Squall can use Magic as well.

Flying enemies who stay perfectly still to meet the RPG battle standard.

Huh? And Squall will wait for Dart to finishing him with the Divine Dragon Balls?

No, but all he can do is run. Maybe fire a some magic.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Flying enemies who stay perfectly still to meet the RPG battle standard.

Explain, I don't quite understand your point.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
No, but all he can do is run. Maybe fire a some magic.

He could run to evade Dart's attack or he could cast Meteors.

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
Explain, I don't quite understand your point.

I'm not saying that Squall couldnt ground a flying enemy with magic, I'm just saying it would be difficult.


He could run to evade Dart's attack or he could cast Meteors.

Dodge.

I see.
But Dart is pretty slow in his Divine Dragoon form, Squall is pretty fast.

Hey, 'dodge' means 'evade'? English isn't my first language as you have noticed...

Yeah, it does mean evade.
It must be pretty confusing for you when ScreamPaste misspells things, lol 😛

I see.
So... This is the end or what? I mean, Dart could win against Squall some battles, but not all of them.

Dart and Lloyd win based on the fact that someone actually made a ****ing Legend of Dragoon thread.

**** yeah Seaking!

^ Good logic win?

Also, welcome back. o_O

Mining for feats.