Hp Doomsday/Thanos vs Darkseid/Odin

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't think HP DD can be killed by anyone with less than universal power. For the simple fact that he survived the OE which is >>>>>> all attacks (under universal level).

His speed and power alone definitely would get him some wins against Odin.

And without PIS in that story, Darkseid hits DD with his OE and transports him to the end of time without Superman or Waverider's intervention and ends the story in a few pages.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So, Odin's galaxy busting attacks < Omega Effect?

Odin doesn't have a galaxy busting attack.
And a galaxy busting attack is nothing, for DD is more durable than planets and stars.

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin doesn't have a galaxy busting attack.
And a galaxy busting attack is nothing, for DD is more durable than planets and stars.

And yet...Odin's battles have destroyed galaxies.

And yet...DD has been defeated by far less than a galaxy busting attack.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And yet...Odin's battles have destroyed galaxies.

And yet...DD has been defeated by far less than a galaxy busting attack.

Battle's that destroyed a single dead galaxy (not live plural galaxies) is not a galaxy busting attack. Plus it took two to do it over time (Not Odin alone). Nice try though. But I don't fall for those type of tricks.

HP DD only failed against Entropy (which is a universal power).

Originally posted by h1a8
Battle's that destroyed a single dead galaxy (not live plural galaxies) is not a galaxy busting attack. Plus it took two to do it over time (Not Odin alone). Nice try though. But I don't fall for those type of tricks.

HP DD only failed against Entropy (which is a universal power).

So you really think that HP DD beats Odin? How? What does he possibly do to him barring PIS that Odin can't defend against?

Originally posted by h1a8
Battle's that destroyed a single dead galaxy (not live plural galaxies) is not a galaxy busting attack.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Wrong. It was one blast of Odin's that destroyed that dead galaxy. Which is a galaxy-busting attack.

No it wasn't. It was a battle that lasted a long time, and destroyed a dead galaxy. It took two to do it as well.

Originally posted by h1a8
No it wasn't. It was a battle that lasted a long time, and destroyed a dead galaxy. It took two to do it as well.

You'll notice, one, it says 'galaxies' as in plural. And two, since you're all for artists depictions...it is only when Odin blasts Seth that the galaxies are destroyed.

And there you have it. Multi-galaxy busting blast.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Firstly, the battle you're talking about sent shockwaves across every plane of existence. They were in Seth's dimension and yet the battle could be seen in NYC, on Earth. Dr. Strange notes that it could sunder the multiverse if continued. Seth temporarily puts Odin down and deals with the lesser Asgardians. First part of the battle ended. No galaxies busted. Odin, finally recovering fully from his amnesia, wields his full power and brings it to bear against his enemy...doing this:

You'll notice, one, it says 'galaxies' as in plural. And two, since you're all for artists depictions...it is only when Odin blasts Seth that the galaxies are destroyed.

And there you have it. Multi-galaxy busting blast.

Silly billy you. Do you think I'm stupid? Come on now. You destroyed yourself just posting the feat for all to see your wrongness.

The narration clearly stated (and meant) battle in as both parties attacking (not just Odin). The battle could have lasted for who knows how long. Comics are still pictures; someone had to be shown attacking when the narration was stated. Clearly many blasts destroyed at least two long long dead galaxies.

With that said, the feat is garbage anyway. HP DD is more durable than planets and stars. Yet Odin and Seth only manage to destroy was mere gases (dead galaxies remember).

The art showed one blast from Odin, narration confirms it destroyed more than one galaxy.

How you 'clearly' extrapolate from that that 'many blasts' did the destruction is beyond reason.

And as for your "H/P DD is more durable..." shtick, he was being injured and harmed by Superman's heat vision, which is roughly as hot as a star. And certainly nowhere near Odin's level of power output.

Originally posted by Enyalus
The art showed one blast from Odin, narration confirms it destroyed more than one galaxy.

How you 'clearly' extrapolate from that that 'many blasts' did the destruction is beyond reason.

Like I said, comics are still pictures. The narration didn't say that Odin with a blast destroyed a long dead galaxy (it didn't even imply it), it said the battle between the two did it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Like I said, comics are still pictures. The narration didn't say that Odin with a blast destroyed a long dead galaxy (it didn't even imply it), it said the battle between the two did it.

Pretty sure the artist would slap in some panels of Seth doing anything worthwhile as far as busting galaxies if he did. As soon as said busting occured, it was essentially Odin kicking his ass. Only by twisting on panel proof and narration (badly) do you somehow get the idea that Odin's blasts didn't destroy galaxies.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Pretty sure the artist would slap in some panels of Seth doing anything worthwhile as far as busting galaxies if he did. As soon as said busting occured, it was essentially Odin kicking his ass. Only by twisting on panel proof and narration (badly) do you somehow get the idea that Odin's blasts didn't destroy galaxies.

The narration nor did the artist even imply that Odin destroy a long dead galaxy with a single blast (or by himself). Clearly it was a battle between the two (as the narration stated).

The narration was referring to the future perfect and not the present.
Also HP DD is more durable than gases.

Originally posted by h1a8
Also HP DD is more durable than gases.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Gases, iron ore and other rock from whatever planets there are left behind, etc....oh, and millions of lightyears across. You left that out.

over 99% gases though. DD>> iron and rock.

Distance quantity doesn't equal penetration quantity since it is an energy based attack.

Originally posted by h1a8
over 99% gases though. DD>> iron and rock.

Distance quantity doesn't equal penetration quantity since it is an energy based attack.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You realize that H/P DD was cut by a laser/plasma sword, don't you? And, yet again I point out that he was also injured by Superman's heat vision. Yet, Odin, who busts galaxies and reignites dead stars with the spillover of his blasts can't effect him? Do you even realize how stupid your argument sounds?

That was a low showing. Low showings don't count. Also who's to say how powerful the sword was (it certainly wasn't laser/plasma based).
The mother box made it.

Superman's heat vision didn't damage him at all. Also Superman poured his best HV on with the rest of the Justice League on a weaker DOS DD and it didn't put a scratch on DD. Comics are inconsistent, that is why characters fight to their best (not worst).

Originally posted by h1a8
That was a low showing. Low showings don't count. Also who's to say how powerful the sword was (it certainly wasn't laser/plasma based).
The mother box made it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman's heat vision didn't damage him at all.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So we all agree Darkseid and Odin win this, correct?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't see HP DD, one of the most vastly overrated characters in comics (still dangerous mind you), adding much to this fight against Darkseid and Odin, whose combined power output and versatility is ridiculous. Unless you're suggesting Thanos solos?