The Arbiter (Ripa Moramee) runs an OOT Boss Gauntlet!

Started by Ms.Marvel5 pages

i accept your concession dear ; )

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
why? you think that a plasma rifle that fires plasma is not designed to withstand high heat? when plasma rifles overheat they become literally so hot that the chief can feel the heat through his armor and has to take his hand off it...

i dont understand the fascination with the volcano itself... its just a volcano. nothing to really fear unless youre a human with nothing on but some green cloth...

You going to be firing plasma out of a gun that is already at melting point. Do you really need to have someone paint a picture?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
i accept your concession dear ; )

I have nothing to concede to, you never made an argument. 😉 I'm just saying iut's hard to disagree with someone who avoids making any standpoint.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
You going to be firing plasma out of a gun that is already at melting point. Do you really need to have someone paint a picture?
rephrase the first sentence.

I have nothing to concede to, you never made an argument. wink I'm just saying iut's hard to disagree with someone who avoids making any standpoint.

its not the defense' job to make an argument, only to cast doubt on the prosecutions argument. 😉 my standpoint was only that you cant prove your assertions.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
You *are* going to be firing plasma out of a gun that is already at melting point. Do you really need to have someone paint a picture?

how do you know what the melting point of those guns are?

its not the defense' job to make an argument, only to cast doubt on the prosecutions argument. my standpoint was only that you cant prove your assertions.
Not true, you made your own assertions, which also need to be proven, and can have doubt cast upon them. You specificly avoided making an argument 😮! Denying me targets D:<

The whole gun doesn't need to melt. If even 1 component (barrel, computer chip, etc) melts, the whole gun is toast.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not true, you made your own assertions, which also need to be proven, and can have doubt cast upon them. You specificly avoided making an argument 😮! Denying me targets D:<

what assertions did i make? =O

The whole gun doesn't need to melt. If even 1 component (barrel, computer chip, etc) melts, the whole gun is toast.

that doesnt answer my question!

how do you know what the melting point of any part of those guns are?

You were going to have a debate with me on Arbiter's ability to resist heat. Then you stopped D:<

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
what assertions did i make? =O

that doesnt answer my question!

Epic cop-out. You have no argument here. If you want one, you must disprove my statement first. I don't have to do your debating for you.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Epic cop-out. You have no argument here. If you want one, you must disprove my statement first. I don't have to do your debating for you.

LOL!

let me just make sure i have the sequence of events correct here.

I would expect that the plasma rifles melt or malfunction in the heat of the volcano. The camo would probably malfunction as well. I doubt that technology that sensitive was built to take the harsh environment of an active volcano.

Basic Summary: The weapons wont work due to the high heat.

An assertion has been made.

my response?

why? you think that a plasma rifle that fires plasma is not designed to withstand high heat? when plasma rifles overheat they become literally so hot that the chief can feel the heat through his armor and has to take his hand off it...

Basic Summary: Proof that the weapons would overheat?

I'm challenging your assertion, asking for proof.

Your response:

You going to be firing plasma out of a gun that is already at melting point. Do you really need to have someone paint a picture?

Basic Summary: the guns wont work because of the high heat

youre ignoring what i said and reiterating your original assertion... which i just asked you to prove.

my response:

how do you know what the melting point of those guns are?

Basic Summary: ... i just asked you to prove that the guns will malfunction due to the heat. stop saying the same thing in different forms.

again the same request for validation of your assertion.

your response:

The whole gun doesn't need to melt. If even 1 component (barrel, computer chip, etc) melts, the whole gun is toast.

Basic Summary: the guns wont work due to high heat.

the fourth reiteration of the same point.

my response:

that doesnt answer my question!

Basic Summary: ... youve said this three times already. i am asking you for the fourth time to please provide some evidence for this statement that you keep repeating worded differently!

your response:

Epic cop-out. You have no argument here. If you want one, you must disprove my statement first. I don't have to do your debating for you.

Basic Sumamry:... I... I dont know.

what are you talking about. 😐

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
LOL!

let me just make sure i have the sequence of events correct here.

Basic Summary: The weapons wont work due to the high heat.

An assertion has been made.

my response?

Basic Summary: Proof that the weapons would overheat?

I'm challenging your assertion, asking for proof.

Your response:

Basic Summary: the guns wont work because of the high heat

youre ignoring what i said and reiterating your original assertion... which i just asked you to prove.

my response:

Basic Summary: ... i just asked you to prove that the guns will malfunction due to the heat. stop saying the same thing in different forms.

again the same request for validation of your assertion.

your response:

Basic Summary: the guns wont work due to high heat.

the fourth reiteration of the same point.

my response:

Basic Summary: ... youve said this three times already. i am asking you for the fourth time to please provide some evidence for this statement that you keep repeating worded differently!

your response:

Basic Sumamry:... I... I dont know.

what are you talking about. 😐

You never thought about providing some statistical data so that your question can be answered? Big oversight....

If you cant prove that the gun is completely made of material that can withstand those temperatures, then that means you just came up with something without having any proof.

We all know that guns melt in high heat. You have to prove why the plasma rifle wont. Quit trying to be witty, and focus on that.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
[B]You never thought about providing some statistical data so that your question can be answered? Big oversight....

If you cant prove that the gun is completely made of material that can withstand those temperatures, then that means you just came up with something without having any proof.

why should I provide statistical data for your argument? you made the assertion that the guns wouldnt work in high heat, i asked you you prove it. you havent.

We all know that guns melt in high heat.

and this proof is that a gun made by aliens 500 years in the future has the same melting point as a gun made today... how?

no. you made the assumption. you back it up. i dont have to prove shit.

and if you dont know how to debate, dont debate. there are rules for how a debate work... im not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain burden of proof and proving assertions to you... im not a for dummies book sorry.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
why should I provide statistical data for your argument? you made the assertion that the guns wouldnt work in high heat, i asked you you prove it. you havent.

and this proof is that a gun made by aliens 500 years in the future has the same melting point as a gun made today... how?

no. you made the assumption. you back it up. i dont have to prove shit.

Lol, throw a fit. 😆

You have assumed that guns made 500 years in the future will be equipped for volcanic battle. You have "shot yourself in the foot" with your own words.

If you can find proof that that rifle wont malfunction in any way, I'll count it moot and drop it. The ball is in your court.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
You have assumed that guns made 500 years in the future will be equipped for volcanic battle.

where did i make that assumption?

If you can find proof that that rifle wont malfunction in any way, I'll count it moot and drop it. The ball is in your court. [/B]

why should i? burden of proof isnt on me.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel

and this proof is that a gun made by aliens 500 years in the future has the same melting point as a gun made today... how?

Implying. You did it.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel

and if you dont know how to debate, dont debate. there are rules for how a debate work... im not going to waste any more of my time trying to explain burden of proof and proving assertions to you... im not a for dummies book sorry.

Cop-out.

Originally posted by LLLLLink

Implying. You did it.

"implying" doesnt cut it. where did i ever say that weapons made by aliens 500 years in the future definitively has a different melting point? i didnt. i said you couldnt prove it either way. thats all i said. putting words in my mouth makes you look silly.

Cop-out. [/B]

no. "cop-out" is what youve been doing for the last five posts.

this is going to end with you saying something like "lol whatever" or something akin to that and bowing out. so why not just save yourself the grief and skip to that part?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
"implying" doesnt cut it. where did i ever say that weapons made by aliens 500 years in the future definitively has a different melting point? i didnt. i said you couldnt prove it either way. thats all i said. putting words in my mouth makes you look silly.

no. "cop-out" is what youve been doing for the last five posts.

this is going to end with you saying something like "lol whatever" or something akin to that and bowing out. so why not just save yourself the grief and skip to that part?

Now you are just speaking out of spite. Show me where the plasma rifle is made of worthy materials, or step down.
Anything else is just worthless banter. Make your stand.

LLLLink, burden of proof is on you. She doesn't have to prove anything. You don't have to prove a negative, its assumed untill someone proves otherwise. Don't worry, I've been kicked in the pants over this too in the past.