The Arbiter (Ripa Moramee) runs an OOT Boss Gauntlet!

Started by SpadeKing5 pages
Originally posted by LLLLLink
The whole gun doesn't need to melt. If even 1 component (barrel, computer chip, etc) melts, the whole gun is toast.

I'm positive the barrel wouldn't melt seeing as it would spit out the plasma and I don't even think the rifle has a barrel anyway since the bolts form in the middle of the rifle.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Lol, throw a fit. 😆

You have assumed that guns made 500 years in the future will be equipped for volcanic battle. You have "shot yourself in the foot" with your own words.

If you can find proof that that rifle wont malfunction in any way, I'll count it moot and drop it. The ball is in your court.

And proof it won't work in volcanic temperatures as well?

The plasma forms in the middle of the weapon, it fires around 540 rounds a minute (forgot the exact count), I would also guess like all convenant technology it can take more sustained hits from plasma as well as I have been saying, and the plasma isn't going to cool down near as close as the lava within the time it takes to heat, let alone the heat from the volcanic vapor which in all volcanoes has been measured around 100-500 Celsius. 1000+ Celsius from the vapor is ridiculous unless they actually stated that was the air heat in LoZ, either way the volcano doesn't do much to the gun except just make it heat slightly faster then it goes to its cooling process.

Originally posted by Nephthys
LLLLink, burden of proof is on you. She doesn't have to prove anything. You don't have to prove a negative, its assumed untill someone proves otherwise. Don't worry, I've been kicked in the pants over this too in the past.

Opinion.

Originally posted by SpadeKing

The plasma forms in the middle of the weapon, it fires around 540 rounds a minute (forgot the exact count), I would also guess like all convenant technology it can take more sustained hits from plasma as well as I have been saying, and the plasma isn't going to cool down near as close as the lava within the time it takes to heat, let alone the heat from the volcanic vapor which in all volcanoes has been measured around 100-500 Celsius. 1000+ Celsius from the vapor is ridiculous unless they actually stated that was the air heat in LoZ, either way the volcano doesn't do much to the gun except just make it heat slightly faster then it goes to its cooling process.

Ok, so the question is what is cooling the gun? Thanks for the explanation.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Logical Fact

Correct.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
[B]Opinion.

... wut. 😐 that is not opinion, that is factually how debates work. 😐 as i said there are rules involved.

Now you are just speaking out of spite. Show me where the plasma rifle is made of worthy materials, or step down.

you show me where i said it was and ill prove it, i cant prove what i didnt say.

and no none of this "well you implied-" or "well you were obviously aiming toward" nonsense. show me where i definitely stated this claim that you want me to prove.

Anything else is just worthless banter. Make your stand.

as dire as "make your stand" sounds, as if this was mortal kombat or something, lol, it has nothing to do with this discussion. you can say that this is worthless banter all you want but the facts are the facts, and even another member has had to tell you whats what. how long is this going to go before you cop out and make declarative statement like "this is a waste of my time!" or "im tired of you dodging the question!" and never post in here again?

The vents on the side of the weapon.

Opens after excessive firing so even if the temperature made it overheat quicker the weapon would still cool enough to be re-used.

Nothing is said that it works off a cpu chip rather than voluntary use or involuntary after the weapon over heats and shuts down.

Why would this be a problem anyway if the arbiter is capable of reaching volvagia and slicing it with the energy sword?

Why would this be a problem anyway if the arbiter is capable of reaching volvagia and slicing it with the energy sword?
Volvagia can fly. 😐

so can the arbiter!

you just... have to put a grenade under him 😐

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
so can the arbiter!

you just... have to put a grenade under him 😐

This seems like a risky tactic. 😛

only if you dont believe!

the arbiter has already accepted jesus as his lord and savior.. so hes cool.

Thou shalt not test the lord! For this is prideful.

at what point does testing the lord differ from faith hmm

Well, faith is believing that he would protect you. Testing is puttign yourself in that position on purpose because of your faith. The difference being if some asshat chucks a grenade in your window, you're not testing, and had no choice in the matter. 😛

Originally posted by LLLLLink
You going to be firing plasma out of a gun that is already at melting point. Do you really need to have someone paint a picture?

*facepalm*

The Arbiter will fire plasma out of a gun thatgenerates plasma and OVERHEATS if used too rapidly, yet returns back to normal in seconds. Also the plasma guns have acore inside them that allows the plasma to be generated and shot straight out of the barrel. And since there is the core, the whole internal composition would already be at a high enough temperature. Besides, the plasma rifle can be used by elites and spartans to bludgeon pretty much anyone to death, yet can still remain intact after all that beatdown.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Volvagia can fly. 😐

Well according to Halo Legends his gamplay rage mode is canon for him so I wouldn't see flying as a problem.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel

you show me where i said it was and ill prove it, i cant prove what i didnt say.

and no none of this "well you implied-" or "well you were obviously aiming toward" nonsense. show me where i definitely stated this claim that you want me to prove.

as dire as "make your stand" sounds, as if this was mortal kombat or something, lol, it has nothing to do with this discussion. you can say that this is worthless banter all you want but the facts are the facts, and even another member has had to tell you whats what. how long is this going to go before you cop out and make declarative statement like "this is a waste of my time!" or "im tired of you dodging the question!" and never post in here again?

All you are saying here is that you don't need to prove anything, because you don't have an argument to begin with.
I accept your concession.

@SpadeKing

So, is the gun mechanical or technological?

If its mechanical, the heat will cause the parts to expand, making the weapon cease to function.
If it is technological, the sensitive parts are in danger of frying, unless, like you said, the cooling system can handle the stress of volcanic conditions.

I'd be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but if there is proof, I'd like to see it. If there isn't that's fine, and I'll just say that the gun works fine in this fight.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
[B]All you are saying here is that you don't need to prove anything, because you don't have an argument to begin with.
I accept your concession.

This is a hard core trolling, Marvel. I'd advise that you take definitive action (read: max aggro) to put a stop to it.

If you don't, I'll have to be pretentious at people until the stupidity stops.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
All you are saying here is that you don't need to prove anything, because you don't have an argument to begin with.

basically, thats how a debate works.

now, are you going to be a good boy and provide this evidence for the guns melting points or do i have to repeat myself for the umpteenth time?

This is a hard core trolling, Marvel. I'd advise that you take definitive action (read: max aggro) to put a stop to it.

If you don't, I'll have to be pretentious at people until the stupidity stops.

hm... time for some clever word play!

"i dont have an axe big enough for this one. "

"Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this troll for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad troll. Not like going down to the Star Wars Vs. forum Section and chasing noobs and fanboys. This troll, Ruin your topic. No shakin', no tenderizin', down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that'll bring back your members, put all your businesses on a debatin' basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks, chief. I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want your vs. topics to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's too many captains on this thread. Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the typing fingers, the whole damn thing.

You see, the idea was the troll come to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin' and hollerin' and sometimes that troll he go away... but sometimes he wouldn't go away. Sometimes that troll looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a ntroll is he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn't even seem to be livin'... 'til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'."

etc

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
only if you dont believe!

the arbiter has already accepted jesus as his lord and savior.. so hes cool.

That was pretty funny.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
basically, thats how a debate works.

now, are you going to be a good boy and provide this evidence for the guns melting points or do i have to repeat myself for the umpteenth time?

hm... time for some clever word play!

"i dont have an axe big enough for this one. "

"Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this troll for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad troll. Not like going down to the Star Wars Vs. forum Section and chasing noobs and fanboys. This troll, Ruin your topic. No shakin', no tenderizin', down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that'll bring back your members, put all your businesses on a debatin' basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks, chief. I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want your vs. topics to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's too many captains on this thread. Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the typing fingers, the whole damn thing.

You see, the idea was the troll come to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin' and hollerin' and sometimes that troll he go away... but sometimes he wouldn't go away. Sometimes that troll looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a ntroll is he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn't even seem to be livin'... 'til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'."

etc

??? blowup

Originally posted by LLLLLink
All you are saying here is that you don't need to prove anything, because you don't have an argument to begin with.
I accept your concession.

@SpadeKing

So, is the gun mechanical or technological?

If its mechanical, the heat will cause the parts to expand, making the weapon cease to function.
If it is technological, the sensitive parts are in danger of frying, unless, like you said, the cooling system can handle the stress of volcanic conditions.

I'd be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but if there is proof, I'd like to see it. If there isn't that's fine, and I'll just say that the gun works fine in this fight.

I might be able to answer that whenever I get around to reading the books again or if I ever rent a halo game again and they actually have in-depth information on the weapon.