WWHulk, Orion vs Thor, Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We've gone over this before and you view the issue 219 fight completely out of context imo. To me it showed me Superman can ko her with an all out punch. You dismissed the circumstances of why she got back in and how she later won but that's neither here nor there.

I see everyone in this fight as stronger than her. Team 2 is the most skilled team but the way Thor fights the Hulk it won't matter as they are going to trade blow for blow.

Either Orion or WW Hulk beats WW very quickly once they start connecting.

And much like the missing scale in the dragon's hide, the flaw of your intellectual dishonesty is made clear for those who look closely enough.

We are at an empasse, so I will give you a nod and go on my way...

Originally posted by tideoftime
And much like the missing scale in the dragon's hide, the flaw of your intellectual dishonesty is made clear for those who look closely enough.

We are at an empasse, so I will give you a nod and go on my way...

Originally posted by tideoftime
And much like the missing scale in the dragon's hide, the flaw of your intellectual dishonesty is made clear for those who look closely enough.

We are at an empasse, so I will give you a nod and go on my way...

I tried to warn you 🙂

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Hulk has done well against Thor in the past. WW Hulk is overkill, IMO. He can DEFINITELY take out Wonder Woman and Orion can stalemate Thor. Team 1 FTW.

Not only is Diana stronger than WW Hulk but she is faster, more skilled, has the lasso/tiara/aegis shield, has better reflexes, can fly, has better blunt force durability. Even if WW Hulk was thrice her strength (which he's not) she will dog walk him 10/10 with all of her astronomical other advantages.

WW Hulk is the weakest link here. A class 100 flying combatant against a slower non flying one will always end in a win for the flying on with at least bfr to space.

Now people are saying WW-level speed really isn't that much of an advantage against snails like Hulk? Please. Any time Hulk is able to fight people with that level of speed is PIS.

Team 1

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]We've gone over this before and you view the issue 219 fight completely out of context imo. To me it showed me Superman can ko her with an all out punch. You dismissed the circumstances of why she got back in and how she later won but that's neither here nor there.

The only thing she seemed to need was a little bit of time. Also note it was not just an all-out punch, but she also got an all-out heatvision to the face and all out strangulation and so on. A sustained multi-attack all-out assault caused a temporary blackout.

It would not be an out in an official boxing match, and note that she knocked him down for just as long later. As long as you accept that Wonder Woman can KO him with an all-out kick, then your view is consistent. Do you grant this?

Originally posted by h1a8
Not only is Diana stronger than WW Hulk but she is faster, more skilled, has the lasso/tiara/aegis shield, has better reflexes, can fly, has better blunt force durability. Even if WW Hulk was thrice her strength (which he's not) she will dog walk him 10/10 with all of her astronomical other advantages.

WW Hulk is the weakest link here. A class 100 flying combatant against a slower non flying one will always end in a win for the flying on with at least bfr to space.

Originally posted by Q99
The only thing she seemed to need was a little bit of time. Also note it was not just an all-out punch, but she also got an all-out heatvision to the face and all out strangulation and so on. A sustained multi-attack all-out assault caused a temporary blackout.

It would not be an out in an official boxing match, and note that she knocked him down for just as long later. As long as you accept that Wonder Woman can KO him with an all-out kick, then your view is consistent. Do you grant this?

She didn't ko him with an all out kick. That's the thing.

Team 1 7/10.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not only is Diana stronger than WW Hulk but she is faster, more skilled, has the lasso/tiara/aegis shield, has better reflexes, can fly, has better blunt force durability. Even if WW Hulk was thrice her strength (which he's not) she will dog walk him 10/10 with all of her astronomical other advantages.

WW Hulk is the weakest link here. A class 100 flying combatant against a slower non flying one will always end in a win for the flying on with at least bfr to space.

I will always say that Diana has a more balanced skillset than Hulks. But to say she is stronger than WWH is madness. If they ever locked in a strength powerplay WWH will just match Diana in raw strength then exceed it. But more realistically she would buzz around him bashing his head until WWH either grapples her ( putting them into previous scenario ) or WWH will enter his next state World Breaker Hulk which means he will emit a powerful erratic Gamma power field around his body which will smash her away giving him the option to leap and grab her.....Dead Diana!

Originally posted by the ninjak
until WWH either grapples her ( putting them into previous scenario ) or WWH will enter his next state World Breaker Hulk which means he will emit a powerful erratic Gamma power field around his body which will smash her away giving him the option to leap and grab her.....Dead Diana!

I agreed with your post up until the quoted portion above. Hulk's strength would exceed Diana's but she's too smart and too well trained to get into a grapple scenario with him. She will quickly notice his increasing strength and resort to the lasso.

The reason I give WW a majority over Hulk is not because I believe she can beat him in a slugfest. She can't. It's because she's not a dumb brick. Her skill and speed would allow her to land the initial blows against Hulk, while evading most of his. This will in turn just make Hulk angrier and stronger. Diana will detect this increase in strength and change tactics and try to subdue him instead (her preferred method anyway.) She wins because of the lasso or tiara if she's going for the kill.

What you outlined above could potentially happen. I just don't see WW making such a tactical error that often. Also, give her speed advantage and flight, it will be that much easier for her to lasso him.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
I agreed with your post up until the quoted portion above. Hulk's strength would exceed Diana's but she's too smart and too well trained to get into a grapple scenario with him. She will quickly notice his increasing strength and resort to the lasso.

The reason I give WW a majority over Hulk is not because I believe she can beat him in a slugfest. She can't. It's because she's not a dumb brick. Her skill and speed would allow her to land the initial blows against Hulk, while evading most of his. This will in turn just make Hulk angrier and stronger. Diana will detect this increase in strength and change tactics and try to subdue him instead (her preferred method anyway.) She wins because of the lasso or tiara if she's going for the kill.

What you outlined above could potentially happen. I just don't see WW making such a tactical error that often. Also, give her speed advantage and flight, it will be that much easier for her to lasso him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what? To even type she is stronger than the Hulk let alone WW Hulk shows us you don't know enough about these characters to even render an opinion.

Even if WW Hulk was 3 times stronger than Diana she will still beat him 10/10 easily because of her other astronomical advantages over him.

And by feats she is stronger, your comments suggest that you don't read WW.

Originally posted by h1a8
You and many people on this forum overrate Strength too much. If strength was such a big factor then Spider-man, CA, Wolverine, etc. would lose all the time to much stronger foes.

Even if WW Hulk was 3 times stronger than Diana she will still beat him 10/10 easily because of her other astronomical advantages over him.

And by feats she is stronger, your comments suggest that you don't read WW.

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Alright, I'd like to think I'm a pretty objective Wonder Woman fan/supporter, but I don't think you can honestly suggest that Diana could beat WWH even if he was "3 times stronger than him" in such a massive stomp.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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Alright, I'd like to think I'm a pretty objective Wonder Woman fan/supporter, but I don't think you can honestly suggest that Diana could beat WWH even if he was "3 times stronger than him" in such a massive stomp.

Of course she can. I can name many reasons she could get a 10/10 without a sweat.

1. Lasso ftw
2. Uppercut to space ftw
3. Combo to ko ftw
4. Seeing Hulk as a statue for the not lose
5. Aegis shield for the not lose
6. Flight for the not lose
7. God wave ftw
8. Tiara ftw
9. Counter Hulk's attack ftw

Originally posted by h1a8
You and many people on this forum overrate Strength too much. If strength was such a big factor then Spider-man, CA, Wolverine, etc. would lose all the time to much stronger foes.

Even if WW Hulk was 3 times stronger than Diana she will still beat him 10/10 easily because of her other astronomical advantages over him.

And by feats she is stronger, your comments suggest that you don't read WW.

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course she can. I can name many reasons she could get a 10/10 without a sweat.

1. Lasso ftw
2. Uppercut to space ftw
3. Combo to ko ftw
4. Seeing Hulk as a statue for the not lose
5. Aegis shield for the not lose
6. Flight for the not lose
7. God wave ftw
8. Tiara ftw
9. Counter Hulk's attack ftw

Originally posted by quanchi112
He also has a healing factor and has ranged attacks. DD was a strong brick and look at all the damage he caused. To even suggest she is stronger is also a red flag in which you don't know who WW Hulk is. What feats does she have which prove she is stronger? Give examples of all of these please.

It doesn't matter if she's stronger, she wins anyway EASILY.
The mere fact that she can uppercut him to space is ENOUGH.

I calculated a feat she did that proves she is capable of exerting at least the force of the weight of the Earth.

facepalm

Originally posted by h1a8
It doesn't matter if she's stronger, she wins anyway EASILY.
The mere fact that she can uppercut him to space is ENOUGH.

I calculated a feat she did that proves she is capable of exerting at least the force of the weight of the Earth.

You claimed she was stronger now back down because you have no feats to even post?

Please don't defend Wonder Woman here, h1.