Originally posted by h1a8What are you basing this off of then?
Okay, math aside. Give me reason to believe that WW Hulk is stronger when I believe Superman, WW, etc. are many times stronger than Hulk, Thor, etc.Note: This is not to prove who will win since WW will win 10000/10 even if she's weaker.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankOne little flick and Hulk's in space. So how am I over exaggerating her chances? Also One little flick and Hulk is lassoed. Also one little punch thrown by Hulk results in a counter combo to ko.
Yeah, I agree the lasso is very potent, and I even went as far as to believe that Team 2 even wins here.But h1 (BIG SURPRISE) is over exaggerating her chances alone.
Originally posted by h1a8Prove it with examples of WW flicking people into space.
One little flick and Hulk's in space. So how am I over exaggerating her chances? Also One little flick and Hulk is lassoed. Also one little punch thrown by Hulk results in a counter combo to ko.
Originally posted by EnyalusThor doesn't use those tactics against Hulk.
Team Two takes this.Thor's capable of draining WWH + amplifying and giving that energy back 100x. Or dimensional BFR.
Orion vs. WW is probably a split.
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
I agreed with your post up until the quoted portion above. Hulk's strength would exceed Diana's but she's too smart and too well trained to get into a grapple scenario with him. She will quickly notice his increasing strength and resort to the lasso.The reason I give WW a majority over Hulk is not because I believe she can beat him in a slugfest. She can't. It's because she's not a dumb brick. Her skill and speed would allow her to land the initial blows against Hulk, while evading most of his. This will in turn just make Hulk angrier and stronger. Diana will detect this increase in strength and change tactics and try to subdue him instead (her preferred method anyway.) She wins because of the lasso or tiara if she's going for the kill.
What you outlined above could potentially happen. I just don't see WW making such a tactical error that often. Also, give her speed advantage and flight, it will be that much easier for her to lasso him.
WW can't flick WWH into space!
WWH also has a potent healing factor the tiara won't kill him no matter where she hits him + Wolverine and X23 used crippling slashing techniques to blind/confuse him which failed because the now much smarter WWH just waited and grabbed his opponents not caring for his physical well being. ( because of the healing factor )
I've heard that the lasso has been breached before, and if anyone can do it WWH can do it. His strength is near limitless and if he was to ever be drawn to a possible loss in a fight WBH will be unleashed and that's bad for anyone involved.
Originally posted by the ninjak
WW can't flick WWH into space!
WWH also has a potent healing factor the tiara won't kill him no matter where she hits him + Wolverine and X23 used crippling slashing techniques to blind/confuse him which failed because the now much smarter WWH just waited and grabbed his opponents not caring for his physical well being. ( because of the healing factor )
I've heard that the lasso has been breached before, and if anyone can do it WWH can do it. His strength is near limitless and if he was to ever be drawn to a possible loss in a fight WBH will be unleashed and that's bad for anyone involved.
1. I never said WW could flick WWH into space. Wrong poster buddy.
2. WW and X23 aren't anywhere near as strong as or as fast as WW. If she went for the decap, she could probably do it. You can debate that point if you like.
3. WWH is NOT getting out of the lasso. There's 0 chance. There have been very few instances where someone was able to escape the lasso and they are always because 1. WW wasn't trying to incapacitate them or 2. it was non-cannon PIS (the Bizarro incident). If she lasso's him, it's over. Period. Add in the fact that he's slow and can't fly, the chances of him being ensnared are raised.
If Thor goes up against Hulk, he'll just BFR him. WW can definitely stalemate Orion until that happens.
Too many ways for Team 2 to come out on top in my opinion.
Team 2 7/10.
Originally posted by the ninjak
WW can't flick WWH into space!
WWH also has a potent healing factor the tiara won't kill him no matter where she hits him + Wolverine and X23 used crippling slashing techniques to blind/confuse him which failed because the now much smarter WWH just waited and grabbed his opponents not caring for his physical well being. ( because of the healing factor )
I've heard that the lasso has been breached before, and if anyone can do it WWH can do it. His strength is near limitless and if he was to ever be drawn to a possible loss in a fight WBH will be unleashed and that's bad for anyone involved.
Just to clarify concerning the lasso: the times it has been "broken" were due to metaphysical issues concerning truth, in relation to Diana, personally (such as in the Trinity story concerning Bizarro, or in "The Golden Perfect"😉; there is no physical expression of strength that can break it, as it's own strength is literally limitless (as indicated in the various issues of WW). It is as indestructable as truth, itself. (Now, certain abstract beings, such as a full-powered Galactus, or applied uses of abstract power, such as sustained use of the OE via Darkseid, could alter the fundamental truths of the universe, and therefore possibly circumvent the lasso, but no physical strength can exceed it).
Woops gotta learn to use that quick quote button! 🙂
my argument with the lasso pretty much results in a loss for the planet Earth! WBH.
But it was the tiara I was interested in......it's not very big and WWH's body is huge! my example using Logan and X23 was the second WW was to slash WWH he would be able to grapple her.
But I agree T2 wins this for the majority.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Woops gotta learn to use that quick quote button! 🙂my argument with the lasso pretty much results in a loss for the planet Earth! WBH.
But it was the tiara I was interested in......it's not very big and WWH's body is huge! my example using Logan and X23 was the second WW was to slash WWH he would be able to grapple her.But I agree T2 wins this for the majority.
No worries 🙂
Yea, alter realty and break the lasso hehe
Tiara: She's still a lot faster than Wolverine and x23. There's nothing to see she would definitely be grappled. She could also throw, like she did to Superman. I mention it just as a possibility. I don't rest my rationale on that working. The lasso and Mjolnir are both enough to take care of WWH. Orion needs a more versatile partner.