Originally posted by Wild Shadow
its to point out that what logan did would work just as well as TM and TM skills are nowhere near being the same to Mr.X they dont even work the same.
Not really, Mr X relied on his telepathy to read Logan's mind, whereas Taskmaster relies on fighting styles (Logan isn't going to come up with a completely new fighting style due to raging)
Either way, going into a bezerker rage would prolly not aid Logan in a fight with purely swords.
Originally posted by Deadline
Looks like you don't have a point really.
nonsense. it's more like you have nothing to offer and are simply making small unsubstantiated comments without offering anything constructive to the debate. ur comments are more borderline to harrassing and trolling then debating or participating in a constructive character argument.
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Originally posted by Wild Shadow
nonsense. it's more like you have nothing to offer and are simply making small unsubstantiated comments without offering anything constructive to the debate. ur comments are more borderline to trolling then debating or participating in a constructive character argument.😇
Not really as I pointed out Wolverine hardly uses beserker rage. Mr X maybe more skillful than TM that doesnt mean Wolverine wins...and?
Originally posted by Deadline
Not really as I pointed out Wolverine hardly uses beserker rage. Mr X maybe more skillful than TM that doesnt mean Wolverine wins...and?
During the Mr. X bloodsport storyline wolverine was sitting in the crowd analyzing both Mr. X and taskmaster the narration showed that logan was aware of taskmasters ability and stated it didnt help him against Mr.X anticipation ability.
It also comes to show that he will not underestimate taskmaster since he knows his ability.
also in that story arc it showed what he needed to do in order to beat Mr. X his willingness to use his Berserker rage as an equalizer. showing that his line of thinking and in this scenario if it helps him could very well be just as likely viable attack.
we dont lowball characters here on this site. if it is a power and it is used under certain situations that can be replicated in a fight then we use it.
Logan has bn shown using his berserker state dozens of times sometimes purposely other times not so much.
either way he does use it and here in this fight under these circumstances fighting an opponent he is aware of and someone trying to compare him to Mr. X also allows for me to apply how logan an use the same technique against a similar character and use it in the beginning of the fight since he already knows the charcater rather then wait for the end of the storyline to apply it
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Except Berzerker Rage blocked X's telepathy and thus his advantage, but you know, wouldn't affect Taskmaster memory at all...
agreed. but it would increase logans Reaction and overall speed leaving TM at a disadvantage when logan becomes a blur and cant be seen or tracked... 😛
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
agreed. but it would increase logans Reaction and overall speed leaving TM at a disadvantage when logan becomes a blur and cant be seen or tracked... 😛
Somethign that Taskmaster can also do.
He sped himself up so that a guy who could catch a bulelt fired from a few meters away was unable to hit him, as well as being able to blitz many guards who were unable aim at him because he was travelling so fast.
Originally posted by SamZED
Logan's rage supposedly makes him faster and even more resistant to injury, but he once said that it doesnt work in his favor if he's fighting skilled opponents.I think he'd win the first scenario but lose the second.
he has taken down danger room characters at max setting while they drew info from his mind and adapted..
logan took them down quick in his regressed stated without taking a hit... shingen ogun...sabe and Lady D.. 😛
it depends how you want to look at it.. since he also smacked down Ogun during a training session by letting the beast take over. 😉
it doesnt get anymore skillfull then Ogun.
@fishy
TM can only use his speed in short burst without injuring and taxing out his body he cant maintain it let alone engage in high speed combat with someone who already has hyper reflexes b4 going into a berserker rage.
Logan was fighting, blocking parrying.. paedra, lazear, shogun all at the same time with their swords without regressing into a feral or berserker rage and he was even thinking on other things then the fight at hand 🤣
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he has taken down danger room characters while they drew info from his mind and adapted..logan took them down quick in his regressed stated without taking a hit... shingen ogun...sabe and Lady D.. 😛
Please tell me your not using this as proof.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
it depends how you want to look at it.. since he also smacked down Ogun during a training session by letting the beast take over. 😉it doesnt get anymore skillfull then Ogun.
Didn't we explain he hardly uses beserker?
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
@fishyTM can only use his speed in short burst without injuring and taxing out his body he cant maintain it let alone engage in high speed combat with someone who already has hyper reflexes b4 going into a berserker rage.
Hes already fast enough to keep up with enhanced people. He doesn't need to use it consistently he could just use it at specific points in the fight.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Logan was fighting, blocking parrying.. paedra, lazear, shogun all at the same time with their swords without regressing into a feral or berserker rage and he was even thinking on other things then the fight at hand 🤣
Thats great not a foregone conclusion he beats TM.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
their is no we in ur opinion it is just you. 😘if you like you can take a vote with ppl that support ur comment/opinion on berserker rage not being allowed to be used b/c you dont think he does it enough or consistently whether he has applied it in this exact same type of scenario.
No you're just pretty arrogant. For the vast majority of times he doesn't use beserker rage. Stop kidding yourself.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowThat's why I said he'd win the first scenario 😛 I think he'll be the one delivering mortal wounds while TM can only hope to scratch him before getting killed. But there's a chance TM would win if the blades were poisonous (scenario 2) for some reason I see him to be the first one to make the scratch.
he has taken down danger room characters at max setting while they drew info from his mind and adapted..logan took them down quick in his regressed stated without taking a hit... shingen ogun...sabe and Lady D.. 😛
it depends how you want to look at it.. since he also smacked down Ogun during a training session by letting the beast take over. 😉
it doesnt get anymore skillfull then Ogun.
@fishy
TM can only use his speed in short burst without injuring and taxing out his body he cant maintain it let alone engage in high speed combat with someone who already has hyper reflexes b4 going into a berserker rage.
Logan was fighting, blocking parrying.. paedra, lazear, shogun all at the same time with their swords without regressing into a feral or berserker rage and he was even thinking on other things then the fight at hand 🤣
I think Logan said that during his first fight with Daken. That he's too good for berserkers rage.
Originally posted by SamZED
That's why I said he'd win the first scenario 😛 I think he'll be the one delivering mortal wounds while TM can only hope to scratch him before getting killed. But there's a chance TM would win if the blades were poisonous (scenario 2) for some reason I see him to be the first one to make the scratch.I think Logan said that during his first fight with Daken. That he's too good for berserkers rage.
hmm... 🤓
i see logan getting the majority of wins in the 1st scenarios as well. in scenario 2 i also gave TM a slight more wins...
i dont see how his comment with Daken would apply to TM. Daken was trained to be in control use his pheromones and most importantly take down his dad. 😒