The Thanos Imperative!

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Originally posted by dmills
Lets just say it like it is. It was rushed and incomplete. I think we all know that more was prolly intended and we got the abridged version.

Conquest was mediocre
War of Kings was tolerable
Thanos Imperative was lacking

Thanos is a giant for some unknown reason in his gay attire. Drax is back in his own gay attire. Tenebrous and Aegis are back some how. Nothing is explained regarding Eternity's opinion on this matter. The Many-Angled Ones turned out to be generic hentai tentacles flailing about that did nothing. The Galactus Engine did nothing. Why the hell was the Galactus of the Cancerverse' head so large? Quasar gets to play dress up Nova Prime only to be taken away in the next issue. Thanos' big role in this and his entire plan was letting Mar-Vell kill him.

Thanos being feral took up 2 whole book. The big bad came back and his plan was to let them kill him. I was expecting him to strategically command the 616 forces in holding back the Cancervse and come up with some thing to bring back death to the Canverse. lol, i was wrong. Instead, we got a literal go ahead and stab me. WTF was Marvell and the Many-Angeled ones's thinking when they decided on that decision?

^ ditto

i did however like mar-vell

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Conquest was mediocre
War of Kings was tolerable
Thanos Imperative was lacking

Thanos is a giant for some unknown reason in his gay attire. Drax is back in his own gay attire. Tenebrous and Aegis are back some how. Nothing is explained regarding Eternity's opinion on this matter. The Many-Angled Ones turned out to be generic hentai tentacles flailing about that did nothing. The Galactus Engine did nothing. Why the hell was the Galactus of the Cancerverse' head so large? Quasar gets to play dress up Nova Prime only to be taken away in the next issue. Thanos' big role in this and his entire plan was letting Mar-Vell kill him.

Thanos being feral took up 2 whole book. The big bad came back and his plan was to let them kill him. I was expecting him to strategically command the 616 forces in holding back the Cancervse and come up with some thing to bring back death to the Canverse. lol, i was wrong. Instead, we got a literal go ahead and stab me. WTF was Marvell and the Many-Angeled ones's thinking when they decided on that decision?

I'll just say that as I suspected, Annihilation was lightning in a bottle and Keith Giffen and Andy Schmidt were sorely missed. I'll leave it at that...

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Conquest was mediocre
War of Kings was tolerable
Thanos Imperative was lacking

Thanos is a giant for some unknown reason in his gay attire. Drax is back in his own gay attire. Tenebrous and Aegis are back some how. Nothing is explained regarding Eternity's opinion on this matter. The Many-Angled Ones turned out to be generic hentai tentacles flailing about that did nothing. The Galactus Engine did nothing. Why the hell was the Galactus of the Cancerverse' head so large? Quasar gets to play dress up Nova Prime only to be taken away in the next issue. Thanos' big role in this and his entire plan was letting Mar-Vell kill him.

Thanos being feral took up 2 whole book. The big bad came back and his plan was to let them kill him. I was expecting him to strategically command the 616 forces in holding back the Cancervse and come up with some thing to bring back death to the Canverse. lol, i was wrong. Instead, we got a literal go ahead and stab me. WTF was Marvell and the Many-Angeled ones's thinking when they decided on that decision?

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Originally posted by Nihilist
Glad the got rid of Nova

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Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Thanos is a giant for some unknown reason in his gay attire. Drax is back in his own gay attire.
I don't mind Thanos' classic outfit, I don't really see him any other way since he wore it most of his career. Drax is maybe too retro. But I have no idea why Thanos was so friggin' huge.

The Galactus Engine did nothing. Why the hell was the Galactus of the Cancerverse' head so large?
Maybe he really ramped it up for his final battle against the Many Angled Ones, absorbed hundreds of planets before the battle, and grew to stellar proportions - before he was killed in that universe.

Quasar gets to play dress up Nova Prime only to be taken away in the next issue.
Yeah, that bugged me too. Seemed pointless and another possible clue that the story was chopped down somehow. Maybe there was supposed to be a Quasar one-shot tie-in.

Instead, we got a literal go ahead and stab me. WTF was Marvell and the Many-Angeled ones's thinking when they decided on that decision?
Yeah, maybe they should have done a bit more research on the whole killing Death's avatar thing.

Still, overall better than another Bendis mega-crossover.

I loved it. These books are primarily for the kids y'know.

I reckon Shuma Gorath is gonna return the trio.

Looking forward to the conclusion.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thanos got utterly duped in Annihilation. Don't try to spin it any other way. Surfer had to save the day. Thanos just made it that much harder by locking it with his en ergy signature. Quite ignominous that Thanos ultimately wasn't necessary to free Galactus because a near-dead Surfer could simply replicate it. More like Thanos' pining/whining for Death's love took center stage. AGAIN. Seriously now... da f@ck that purple puss has to do to get that bony poontang?

Well... apparently he has to get stunted by Starlord and Nova before doing so. For now. Frankly... even I was embarassed. Thought Thanos matured beyond pining like a schoolgirl for Death's love....

... oh wait... that was the Thanosi in Celestial Quest that evolved beyond that point... oops.

Thanos did what he wanted to out of sheer boredom and still set in motion the events which ended up being the a wave's undoing. Thanos can always rectify any mistake and every character makes them but his sheer intelligence and track record proves it.

Yeah, the good guys had to win in annihilation and Thanos came back to save reality once again.

With a cc and the full nova force that's packing heat and him pining over death has been a theme over his entire existence. You shouldn't sound shocked. In the end as usual Thanos overcame great odds like an entire universe by outsmarting the baddie. Par for the course.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Why the hell was the Galactus of the Cancerverse' head so large? issue.

Interview with DnA

Cosmic Book News: What can you tell us about the "Galactus Engine," an entity (?) that seems to dwarf Galactus and the Abstracts as they dwarf us?

DnA: Essentially, as you might suspect, it’s the Cancerverse’s version of Galactus, but bio-engineered by the Many-Angled Gods of the outer dark into an even more extraordinary and apocalyptic mechanism of cosmic annihilation.

Here's another take. I have no idea who wrote this or if it's even truly accurate but it sure sounds good lol!

The Second Galactus Engine was once Galactus' counterpart from The Cancerverse until The Many-Angled Ones of the outer dark took him apart, amplified the power within his corpse and bio-engineered an apocalyptic mechanism, an engine of cosmic annihilation unlike anything the Multiverse had seen before.

When The Many-Angled Ones, from behind the scenes, learned that Earth-616's Galactus had brought Tenebrous, Aegis and The Prime Celestial Host with him to The Fault to keep them from achieving their ultimate goal.

That goal was, of course, conquer the mainstream Marvel Universe and then rewrite the base code of The Multiverse, thus allowing them to turn every reality they had yet to conquer into an extension of The Cancerverse, so in response to Galactus' counterattack The Many-Angled Ones sent his counterpart, The Galactus Engine, through.

When it made its grand entrance, Nova, Quasar and The Silver Surfer were shocked to discover that the foul abomination dwarfed every single cosmic being stationed at The Fault in size, making them look like ants much in the same way Nova, Quasar and The Silver Surfer were to the cosmic beings.

A painful death awaits all who defy The Galactus Engine.When The Galactus Engine finally broke through The Fault; all of the cosmic beings standing before it moved aside in order to avoid being hit with the exception of Galactus himself, who decided to face his twisted counterpart head-on.

Shortly upon arrival, The Galactus Engine did not seem to be attacking anything at all but in reality was waging a fierce war with the Abstracts on a higher plane of existence far beyond the ken of mortal men.

However, when it overwhelmed Aegis and managed to kill her, the end result was viewed on our plane of existence in the form of a massive xenomorphic entity tearing its way out of her body. It was not long before her allies as well as the mortal armies of 616 began to drop like flies.

Though it was not seen firsthand, Quasar remarked that The Galactus Engine had actually begun forcing the cosmic entities and their mortal allies into retreating, though because of all the confusion and chaos going on at the front lines it was impossible to tell just how many of the cosmic beings had actually fled from the front lines.

Following the return of Nova's strike-force from their mission to rescue Major Victory and Namorita, Queen Medusa explained to them that The Galactus Engine had proved to be the most powerful and monstrous threat on the battlefield so far, which had wiped out or forced into retreating all but five of the High Abstracts that had come to assist the lesser beings in fending off the Cancerverse's assault vanguard earlier on.

Galactus and his crew struggle to hold his monstrous counterpart at bay.The five remaining High Abstracts; Galactus, Arishem the Judge and three nameless Celestials who, despite focusing every iota of their vast power into combating The Galactus Engine, were noted in the reports Medusa received from the front lines as being barely able to hold The Galactus Engine back.

To make things even worse, other reports had confirmed that there were larger, more powerful creatures (possibly The Many-Angled Ones themselves) coming through The Fault from behind The Galactus Engine and the two parsec-wide assault vanguard flanking it.

Eventually, Arishem and the other three Celestials were overwhelmed and possibly destroyed by The Galactus Engine, leaving only Galactus to fight back against his monstrous counterpart. But as their fight progressed, The Galactus Engine unleashed hundreds of robotic tendrils from its mouth and began wrapping them around Galactus' arms.

As it began to pull him downward, Galactus found himself being assisted by the lesser beings fighting in this war, who had all decided that The Galactus Engine should be everyone's priority now that the other High Abstracts had been killed. But even with the promise of what little aid they could provide, the outcome of this fight still looked grim.

Then, when all hope seemed lost, Mistress Death obliterated The Cancerverse and caused The Fault to collapse in on itself, creating a back-rip that pulled The Galactus Engine and any portions of the assault vanguard that hadn't turned to dust down into oblivion. With Mistress Death's aid Earth-616 had come out of the war victorious, but the cost of that victory had been great.

Nightmare's EndThe Galactus Engine had left every species that confronted it, including The Celestials, in ruins. The Celestials themselves now lacked their primary Judge thus leaving Arishem's position along with countless others to now be filled.

As for the "lesser" races...millions upon millions of people, people that were loved and cared for deeply by many, had been exterminated in the blink of an eye by forces they could not understand or imagine.

Though it is gone, The Galactus Engine's dark and twisted legacy along with records of its actions will be remembered by every generation until the end of time and space and light and life.

I won't lie, that's an interesting read, but quite frankly seems like a lot of fan wank.

For one thing, the dead give away was stating that Galactus alone decided not to move aside when the Galactus engine made it's grand appearance. That's an error a lot of readers had made since if you look closely at the actual art (instead of the scans, because the scans make it less clear) that is clearly a Celestial in front of it...not Big G. The rest of the beings are off-panel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos did what he wanted to out of sheer boredom and still set in motion the events which ended up being the a wave's undoing. Thanos can always rectify any mistake and every character makes them but his sheer intelligence and track record proves it.
Thanos' boredom setting into motion the events which directly threatened his universe's existence, admitting he got utterly duped, and then trying to undo it all... but failing and having Surfer do it does demonstrate Thanos' intelligence and track record.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah, the good guys had to win in annihilation and Thanos came back to save reality once again.

With a cc and the full nova force that's packing heat and him pining over death has been a theme over his entire existence. You shouldn't sound shocked. In the end as usual Thanos overcame great odds like an entire universe by outsmarting the baddie. Par for the course.

Galactus and Surfer saved the day despite Thanos dimwittingly escalating the mess. Which is similar to how Thanos obtained the IG, only to have it fall into the hands of Nebula, who was a bigger threat because of her instability with its power and then having Adam Warlock manage the situation.

Thanos pining over Death has been a theme over his entire existence and it's tired and boring. Fact that a Thanosi achieved more acceptance from Death and achieved a more full resolution over those wasted feelings in Celestial Queszt is face-palm worthy.

I know you feel how you do. You know I disagree.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
I won't lie, that's an interesting read, but quite frankly seems like a lot of fan wank.

For one thing, the dead give away was stating that Galactus alone decided not to move aside when the Galactus engine made it's grand appearance. That's an error a lot of readers had made since if you look closely at the actual art (instead of the scans, because the scans make it less clear) that is clearly a Celestial in front of it...not Big G. The rest of the beings are off-panel.

That came from comicvine. Some fan prolly took the real events and tried to extrapolate the surrounding events to fill in the gaps.

Originally posted by dmills
That came from comicvine. Some fan prolly took the real events and tried to extrapolate the surrounding events to fill in the gaps.

I agree. It's as PCII pointed out though most likely fan made with alot of biased included, first off we have (or I might have missed it) any idea on how the Galactus Engine came into being, secondly I personally doubt that the Galactus Engine could defeat ALL the Celestials present. Also (but that is my own observation) it didn't seem like Galactus was fighting for his life against the Galactus Engine more likely he decided to attack it head on giving the rest of the abstracts the oppertunity to either assist other places or move to engage the stronger entities. (notice I'm pointing out that I'm speculating 😉 )

Originally posted by Utrigita
I agree. It's as PCII pointed out though most likely fan made with alot of biased included, first off we have (or I might have missed it) any idea on how the Galactus Engine came into being, secondly I personally doubt that the Galactus Engine could defeat ALL the Celestials present. Also (but that is my own observation) it didn't seem like Galactus was fighting for his life against the Galactus Engine more likely he decided to attack it head on giving the rest of the abstracts the oppertunity to either assist other places or move to engage the stronger entities. (notice I'm pointing out that I'm speculating 😉 )
Unfortunately all we can do is speculate about certain details since we didn't get any supplemental info via mini's/tie in's.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thanos' boredom setting into motion the events which directly threatened his universe's existence, admitting he got utterly duped, and then trying to undo it all... but failing and having Surfer do it does demonstrate Thanos' intelligence and track record. Galactus and Surfer saved the day despite Thanos dimwittingly escalating the mess. Which is similar to how Thanos obtained the IG, only to have it fall into the hands of Nebula, who was a bigger threat because of her instability with its power and then having Adam Warlock manage the situation.

Thanos pining over Death has been a theme over his entire existence and it's tired and boring. Fact that a Thanosi achieved more acceptance from Death and achieved a more full resolution over those wasted feelings in Celestial Queszt is face-palm worthy.

I know you feel how you do. You know I disagree.

Thanos was taken out due to Drax's sudden and recent change in his dna how is Thanos supposed to know about this when he had his back turned ? Moondragon failed not him to hold Drax back. The funny thing is you act like he is supposed to be all knowing so that's high praise indeed.

Annihilus was in the driver seat until Thanos switched sides. Had he not Drax would have never had his back in the first place.

Thanos knew Galactus was needed for this and had he not switched sides Galactus would have never been freed. Without changing sides annihilation would have won the war.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos was taken out due to Drax's sudden and recent change in his dna how is Thanos supposed to know about this when he had his back turned ? Moondragon failed not him to hold Drax back. The funny thing is you act like he is supposed to be all knowing so that's high praise indeed.

Annihilus was in the driver seat until Thanos switched sides. Had he not Drax would have never had his back in the first place.

Thanos knew Galactus was needed for this and had he not switched sides Galactus would have never been freed. Without changing sides annihilation would have won the war.

Had he not switched sides

Drax would have punched through his heart anyway.

Had Thanos used Moondragon to discover Annihilus' plans (because Thanos was incapable of doing it himself), he would have died anyway if Moondragon decided to mind-raped him in the calculated risk he took in letting her enter his mind.

So basically, if other characters decided to act differently, Thanos is still dead.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Had he not switched sides

Drax would have punched through his heart anyway.

Had Thanos used Moondragon to discover Annihilus' plans (because Thanos was incapable of doing it himself), he would have died anyway if Moondragon decided to mind-raped him in the calculated risk he took in letting her enter his mind.

So basically, if other characters decided to act differently, Thanos is still dead.

If Thanos hadn't switched sides his back wouldn't have turned so you are wrong.

No, Thanos still ultimately changed the outcome and when he was on Annihilu's side they were winning and when he jumped ship they lost because Thanos' actions made it possible.

Thanos' actions change the face of entire universes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If Thanos hadn't switched sides his back wouldn't have turned so you are wrong.

No, Thanos still ultimately changed the outcome and when he was on Annihilu's side they were winning and when he jumped ship they lost because Thanos' actions made it possible.

Thanos' actions change the face of entire universes.

Of course I'm correct. Thanos always intended to discover what Annihilus' true plans were. Are you going to say that he intended to blindly do Annihilus' bidding without so much as an inclination of his true intent? Utter nonsense.

Thanos did nothing except die.

Who defeated the A-Wave?
Who freed Silver Surfer?
Who freed Galactus?
Who killed Annihilus?

Who made it possible to free the Silver Surfer?
Who made it possible to free Galactus?
Who made it possible to destroy Annihilus?

What does Thanos have to do with any of that? Answer: None of the above.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos was taken out due to Drax's sudden and recent change in his dna how is Thanos supposed to know about this when he had his back turned ? Moondragon failed not him to hold Drax back. The funny thing is you act like he is supposed to be all knowing so that's high praise indeed.

Annihilus was in the driver seat until Thanos switched sides. Had he not Drax would have never had his back in the first place.

Thanos knew Galactus was needed for this and had he not switched sides Galactus would have never been freed. Without changing sides annihilation would have won the war.

Had Thanos not gotten everybody into the god damn mess in the first place by building the Galactus Cannon, none of that crap would have happened.

The Annihilation Wave probably would have encountered Galactus and been obliterated like Galactus ended up doing. How you are seeing Thanos as anything but an incomparable dupe that was responsible for an entire mess which would have been avoided, but for his involvement, is inexplicable. You'd have a semblance of an argument had Thanos gone to extreme lengths to rectify the situation... but he didn't even get a chance to do that! He got killed and Surfer had to clean up his mess!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Had Thanos not gotten everybody into the god damn mess in the first place by building the Galactus Cannon, none of that crap would have happened.

The Annihilation Wave probably would have encountered Galactus and been obliterated like Galactus ended up doing. How you are seeing Thanos as anything but an incomparable dupe that was responsible for an entire mess which would have been avoided, but for his involvement, is inexplicable. You'd have a semblance of an argument had Thanos gone to extreme lengths to rectify the situation... but he didn't even get a chance to do that! He got killed and Surfer had to clean up his mess!

dammit, you're not supposed to use reason and logic in this thread.