The Thanos Imperative!

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Of course I'm correct. Thanos always intended to discover what Annihilus' true plans were. Are you going to say that he intended to blindly do Annihilus' bidding without so much as an inclination of his true intent? Utter nonsense.

Thanos did nothing except die.

Who defeated the A-Wave?
Who freed Silver Surfer?
Who freed Galactus?
Who killed Annihilus?

Who made it possible to free the Silver Surfer?
Who made it possible to free Galactus?
Who made it possible to destroy Annihilus?

What does Thanos have to do with any of that? Answer: None of the above.

If Thanos didn't change sides Galactus wouldn't have been freed. That's exactly how it is. If he stayed on Annihilus' side the heroes were screwed so as usual the fate of the unievrse depended on whose side Thanos was on.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Had Thanos not gotten everybody into the god damn mess in the first place by building the Galactus Cannon, none of that crap would have happened.

The Annihilation Wave probably would have encountered Galactus and been obliterated like Galactus ended up doing. How you are seeing Thanos as anything but an incomparable dupe that was responsible for an entire mess which would have been avoided, but for his involvement, is inexplicable. You'd have a semblance of an argument had Thanos gone to extreme lengths to rectify the situation... but he didn't even get a chance to do that! He got killed and Surfer had to clean up his mess!

Thanos was the reason the universe was losing, his involvement, and then when he switched sides the universe was saved.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos had Gaalctus captured due to his involvement. Thanos then was taking measures in freeing Galactus before Drax cheapshotted him which along with the fact his powers changed the only reason he was successful.

If Thanos didn't change sides Galactus wouldn't have been freed. That's exactly how it is. If he stayed on Annihilus' side the heroes were screwed so as usual the fate of the unievrse depended on whose side Thanos was on.

Anything he did he could rectify which happened anyways.

Thanos was the reason the universe was losing, his involvement, and then when he switched sides the universe was saved.

If Thanos didn't change sides, Drax would still have killed him, and Galactus still wouldn't have been freed by Thanos.

But Thanos never had anything to do with freeing Galactus in the first place. So the point is moot whether Thanos changed sides or not. Drax would still have killed him. Drax has killed him 2x in 4 years. The most recent was confronting Thanos head on and not catching him off guard.

If he stayed on Annihilus' side he would still be dead, Surfer would still be freed, Surfer would still free Galactus, and Galactus would still destroy the A-Wave, and Nova would still kill Annihilus.

Thank you.

But let's take it a step further.

If Tenebrous and Aegis had "decided" NOT to join forces with Thanos, then the whole A-wave is phucked, Thanos is phucked, and we don't have this conversation.

Thanos went to find the Beyonder in the kyln, who was dead, and Thanos was shit out of luck. LUCKILY for him, T&A happened to be around.

We can play this "if x decided not to do z" all day and far more is conditional on other characters than Thanos.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
If Thanos didn't change sides, Drax would still have killed him, and Galactus still wouldn't have been freed by Thanos.

But Thanos never had anything to do with freeing Galactus in the first place. So the point is moot whether Thanos changed sides or not. Drax would still have killed him. Drax has killed him 2x in 4 years. The most recent was confronting Thanos head on and not catching him off guard.

If he stayed on Annihilus' side he would still be dead, Surfer would still be freed, Surfer would still free Galactus, and Galactus would still destroy the A-Wave, and Nova would still kill Annihilus.

Thank you.

But let's take it a step further.

If Tenebrous and Aegis had "decided" NOT to join forces with Thanos, then the whole A-wave is phucked, Thanos is phucked, and we don't have this conversation.

Thanos went to find the Beyonder in the kyln, who was dead, and Thanos was shit out of luck. LUCKILY for him, T&A happened to be around.

We can play this "if x decided not to do z" all day and far more is conditional on other characters than Thanos.

My points stand if Thanos didn't change sides Drax would have been beaten the Surfer wouldn't have been freed and the 616 universe would have been doomed. Thanos is that pivotal and he proved it yet again in Thanos imperative.

Thanos is very persuasive so of course T and A would join his side I mean Galactus himself had to sit back while Thanos saved him from he Hunger. Thanos equals win.

I totally dislike what they did to Thanos in this event.

Half the time on rampage, like a violent Hulk, and the other half the time being a whiny emo.
Where was the most sucessful strategist/ploter of all comic books?!

The only positive thing about this was the badasseries he did, like taking by himself teams, and having to be put down by a cosmic cube. With that arc, Thanos proved himself league wayyyyys above any herald.

Also, I find a little bit sad the poor exposure of the team of cosmic heroes. More of it would be the shit! I mean, in the same team: Quasar, Ronan, Gladiator, Nova, Beta Ray Bill and Silver mother****ing Surfer. You can't have better than this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, because he wouldn't have had his back turned. I mean do you have a shred of common sense. He would actively be attacking him not while turning his back because he would never have been trying to free Galactus.

My points stand if Thanos didn't change sides Drax would have been beaten the Surfer wouldn't have been freed and the 616 universe would have been doomed. Thanos is that pivotal and he proved it yet again in Thanos imperative.

Thanos is very persuasive so of course T and A would join his side I mean Galactus himself had to sit back while Thanos saved him from he Hunger. Thanos equals win.

LOL. Like Thanos had his back turned in TI #3? Or did he "have his backed turned" and let Drax take him by surprise yet again. You act as if all the times Drax killed him, Thanos was caught sleeping like a babe in a crib.

Thanos switched sides and all he accomplished in doing was killing some of Annihilus' drones. Nothing after that is as circumstantial as you portray.

Of course...Moondragon has to decide not to mind-rape thanos in order for your argument to even be constructed, much less lose.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
LOL. Like Thanos had his back turned in TI #3? Or did he "have his backed turned" and let Drax take him by surprise yet again. You act as if all the times Drax killed him, Thanos was caught sleeping like a babe in a crib.

Thanos switched sides and all he accomplished in doing was killing some of Annihilus' drones. Nothing after that is as circumstantial as you portray.

Of course...Moondragon has to decide not to mind-rape thanos in order for your argument to even be constructed, much less lose.

If Thanos didn't switch sides Galactus wouldn't have been freed. That's cut and dry.

Originally posted by dmills
Interview with DnA

I would've preferred it being stated in the actual comic not addressed afterwards. Hopefully it's added to Devastation to make it canon. But honestly the biggest problem is that it did not essentially. And I getting tired of writers using Galactus as their go to cosmic. Had one of the Angled Ones Mar-Vell spoke of (not SG) showed up and tore through the abstracts that would've so sweet. Did we even get any new characters this time around? Annihilation gave as Aegis, Tenebrous, Diableri, and the Proemial Gods. I'm still waiting for some of the other Proemial Gods to get resurrected.

Here's another take. I have no idea who wrote this or if it's even truly accurate but it sure sounds good lol!

It does sound good. If that had been in the actual story than the quality the book would've been better. It's not. And it's sad.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I loved it. These books are primarily for the kids y'know.

I reckon Shuma Gorath is gonna return the trio.

Looking forward to the conclusion.

No thank you. This isn't made for kids because kids barely have enough money to buy candies. If kids were their target then the comic industry would be out of business. Well, maybe that's why the Cosmic line is canceled, it's too kid oriented. Mar-Vell, the Many-Angled Ones, Oblivion, Mistress Death, and Adam Magus are either too obscure for them to even know who these people are. Having the internet is one thing; actually looking these characters up and reading about them is another. I doubt kids would bother.

Thanos is homo these days once again. This the 4th or 10th time he's been rejected by Death? Every time she rejects him it's because Deadpool took her back.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos beat Drax how many times in ti ? He was out of control and being counterproductive to his team. Thanos beat him once and then later Drax caught him with a plot device bomb which couldn't stop Thanos who took out Drax.

If Thanos didn't switch sides Galactus wouldn't have been freed. That's cut and dry.

Drax blew up Thanos. Thanos returned due to Death rejecting him. Which one is a plot device? Oh, the bomb? I see. Death rejecting him is in no way a plot device, I think I have to agree with you.

If Thanos doesn't switch sides, he doesn't free Galactus. I agree, either way, no matter his decision, he doesn't free Galactus. Cut and dry.

There, see. We agree.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Drax blew up Thanos. Thanos returned due to Death rejecting him. Which one is a plot device? Oh, the bomb? I see. Death rejecting him is in no way a plot device, I think I have to agree with you.

If Thanos doesn't switch sides, he doesn't free Galactus. I agree, either way, no matter his decision, he doesn't free Galactus. Cut and dry.

There, see. We agree.

If Thanos doesn't change sides Galactus stays put and the universe perishes. Thanos' decisions determine fates of universes.

Par for the course.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the very beginning someone stated Thanos cannot die. His role as avatar and his rebirth always had this in place. He already defeated Drax when he was running around feral along with the rest of his team.

If Thanos doesn't change sides Galactus stays put and the universe perishes. Thanos' decisions determine fates of universes.

Par for the course.

There's no correlation whatsoever between Thanos changing sides and Galactus being freed. Prove it. The story clearly illustrates otherwise: he changed his mind, he killed drones in his great contribution to helping the universe, and he activated the power meter to free Galactus 3/4 of the way before he was dead. His decision did nothing except leave a stain on Annihilus' floor. The fate of the universe was exactly the same.

Drax isn't called the avatar of life for nothing. 🙂

And I will be generous in going along with you on this conditional, "what if" type scenario which really has no validity in the scheme of things in changing the fact that Thanos was duped and was killed, and the universe preserved without any aid from him.

The fact that Thanos died prior to the entire event even happening, the fact that he did nothing to enable Galactus to be freed so that he can take responsiblity for freeing him, is already testement to the irrelevance Thanos has to that particular part of the story.

Which of course confirms my previous statement...in Annihilation he came out with the short end of the stick. He was embarking on a quest of annihilation and lost, showing what happens when he doesn't have the aid of a plot device like the IG, CC, or HOTU.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
There's no correlation whatsoever between Thanos changing sides and Galactus being freed. Prove it. The story clearly illustrates otherwise: he changed his mind, he killed drones in his great contribution to helping the universe, and he activated the power meter to free Galactus 3/4 of the way before he was dead. His decision did nothing except leave a stain on Annihilus' floor. The fate of the universe was exactly the same.

Drax isn't called the avatar of life for nothing. 🙂

And I will be generous in going along with you on this conditional, "what if" type scenario which really has no validity in the scheme of things in changing the fact that Thanos was duped and was killed, and the universe preserved without any aid from him.

The fact that Thanos died prior to the entire event even happening, the fact that he did nothing to enable Galactus to be freed so that he can take responsiblity for freeing him, is already testement to the irrelevance Thanos has to that particular part of the story.

Which of course confirms my previous statement...in Annihilation he came out with the short end of the stick. He was embarking on a quest of annihilation and lost, showing what happens when he doesn't have the aid of a plot device like the IG, CC, or HOTU.

Do you think Drax was more of a game changer than thanos in annihilation. Excuse my while I laugh my self to unconsciousness.

If Thanos didn't change sides Galactus would never have been freed I have explained this time and time again.

Thanos was reunited with Death so how did he come up short ? At this point I don't even think you know who Thanos is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If he didn't change sides he wouldn't have given up his back to Drax he'd actively oppose him. When Thanos actively opposes him he dies. This isn't hard to get.

Do you think Drax was more of a game changer than thanos in annihilation. Excuse my while I laugh my self to unconsciousness.

If Thanos didn't change sides Galactus would never have been freed I have explained this time and time again.

Thanos was reunited with Death so how did he come up short ? At this point I don't even think you know who Thanos is.

You've lost focus of your entire position:

IF (because, we're playing in your fantasy world now, which as we know Thanos was shown on panel to be irrelevant to the events of Annihilation after his death) he changes sides, HE doesn't free Galactus. Drax was ALREADY on his way. And you must have laughed yourself into unconsciousness in weeks previous, and still have not awoken to any semblance of logic, since drax already killed thanos in TI when Thanos actively opposed him. Yes, go back and read it, because you've been exposed as not having done so. Drax killed Thanos in TI in a straight up fight. Once more for reiteration: Drax killed Thanos in TI in a straight up fight, where Thanos was actively opposing him.

Thanos had nothing to do with Galactus being freed. Drax was already on his way, regardless if Thanos switched sides or not. Drax as recently as 2 months ago killed Thanos unapposed. Drax had no opposition on his way to Thanos.

And if Thanos doesn't change sides, I don't care if you claim to be Hammurabi and Einstein rolled into 1, you will never prove what Thanos could or couldn't do while alive. The point is that he died, and the story continued without him, and that he was shown to be irrelevant from that point forward, which you are incapable of accepting, as shown by continuually arguing against me. This doesn't bother me at all as all you're doing is trying to impose your fanaticism on someone who doesn't give a damn...so continue saying "if thanos did this, even though he didn't, he still could do this...even though he wasn't shown to be able to" and i'll simply tell you: No.

EDIT: however, I will enjoy pointing out that Moondragon deciding not to mind-rape thanos trumps your "if he never decides to change sides" from a purely conditional point of view.

Unless you want to argue that Thanos wanted to stay completely ignorant of annihilus' true plans, and simply wanted to be involved in a space war for the hell of it.

in which case, drax would still kill him.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
You've lost focus of your entire position:

IF (because, we're playing in your fantasy world now, which as we know Thanos was shown on panel to be irrelevant to the events of Annihilation after his death) he changes sides, HE doesn't free Galactus. Drax was ALREADY on his way. And you must have laughed yourself into unconsciousness in weeks previous, and still have not awoken to any semblance of logic, since drax already killed thanos in TI when Thanos actively opposed him. Yes, go back and read it, because you've been exposed as not having done so. Drax killed Thanos in TI in a straight up fight. Once more for reiteration: Drax killed Thanos in TI in a straight up fight, where Thanos was actively opposing him.

Thanos had nothing to do with Galactus being freed. Drax was already on his way, regardless if Thanos switched sides or not. Drax as recently as 2 months ago killed Thanos unapposed. Drax had no opposition on his way to Thanos.

And if Thanos doesn't change sides, I don't care if you claim to be Hammurabi and Einstein rolled into 1, you will never prove what Thanos could or couldn't do while alive. The point is that he died, and the story continued without him, and that he was shown to be irrelevant from that point forward, which you are incapable of accepting, as shown by continuually arguing against me. This doesn't bother me at all as all you're doing is trying to impose your fanaticism on someone who doesn't give a damn...so continue saying "if thanos did this, even though he didn't, he still could do this...even though he wasn't shown to be able to" and i'll simply tell you: No.

EDIT: however, I will enjoy pointing out that Moondragon deciding not to mind-rape thanos trumps your "if he never decides to change sides" from a purely conditional point of view.

Unless you want to argue that Thanos wanted to stay completely ignorant of annihilus' true plans, and simply wanted to be involved in a space war for the hell of it.

in which case, drax would still kill him.

Now without catching him unaware or the plot device he had on him he has no way or hurting Thanos so Thanos easily bests him which we saw when Thanos first came back in ti while feralm Thanos' entire career, outside two cheapshot moments. Yeah, unlike you I don't ignore context of these events.

Once again if Thanos didn't switch sides Galactus doesn't get freed. Drax used a bomb and caught him unaware again. Thanos beat him at the beginning of ti with a team backing him and right after his bomb failed to stop Thanos. Thanos is far greater than Drax when he is aware of his actions as proven by his history and the context between these two cheapshots.

Thanos chose what he wanted to do and she was never ever going to mindrape him so like usual everything runs through Thanos just like in thanos imperative.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Drax used a weapon he didn't have on his person aka plot device which didn't stop Thanos. He also caught him unaware because he couldn't control his compulsion to kill him despite the fact they were on the same side for once. Thanos solved the Drax problem.

Now without catching him unaware or the plot device he had on him he has no way or hurting Thanos so Thanos easily bests him which we saw when Thanos first came back in ti while feralm Thanos' entire career, outside two cheapshot moments. Yeah, unlike you I don't ignore context of these events.

Once again if Thanos didn't switch sides Galactus doesn't get freed. Drax used a bomb and caught him unaware again. Thanos beat him at the beginning of ti with a team backing him and right after his bomb failed to stop Thanos. Thanos is far greater than Drax when he is aware of his actions as proven by his history and the context between these two cheapshots.

Thanos chose what he wanted to do and she was never ever going to mindrape him so like usual everything runs through Thanos just like in thanos imperative.

Drax had the device on his person. Where does the device come from otherwise. You cannot excuse Thanos for not being able to handle a simple device. I am not going to let that be used as an argument for Thanos being killed. This is comics. Weapons are used. Rocket Racoon carries guns. Starlord carries guns. Drax obviously, was carrying guns. Half of the guardians of the Galaxy (in fact, all of those who don't use TP/TK as a power) were carrying guns. There are plot device weapons like Reed's gun that 1-shots Celestials, and then there are devices like Drax's bomb. If one of them killed Thanos using the guns they were carrying you would cry foul because Thanos wasn't prepared for someone with no powers invading an undying universe with nothing more than guns. LOL. It's your problem if you can't deal with the manner in which Thanos was killed.

Caught Thanos unaware? Did you even read the comic? You must have made a conscious effort to ignore the panel where Thanos approaches Drax with aggression, where Thanos demands Drax to say his piece. Using that logic, if you ran up to someone at a bar and demand them to confront you, and they put you down with 1 punch, you would claim that you were caught unaware. Pathetic. Stop ignoring ("if those events didn't happen"😉 canon events. Stop supposing ("if thanos had only wiped his ass instead of using a douche"😉 events that never happened.

Drax killed Thanos. Schmidt went out to say that during Annihilation, Drax was the Silver Bullet to Thanos and there was nothign that Thanos could do to stop him. He would have killed Thanos regardless. Thanos never does anything beyond issue #4. He is irrelevant for nearly half of the series.

You have nothing.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Drax had the device on his person. Where does the device come from otherwise. You cannot excuse Thanos for not being able to handle a simple device. I am not going to let that be used as an argument for Thanos being killed. This is comics. Weapons are used. Rocket Racoon carries guns. Starlord carries guns. Drax obviously, was carrying guns. Half of the guardians of the Galaxy (in fact, all of those who don't use TP/TK as a power) were carrying guns. There are plot device weapons like Reed's gun that 1-shots Celestials, and then there are devices like Drax's bomb. If one of them killed Thanos using the guns they were carrying you would cry foul because Thanos wasn't prepared for someone with no powers invading an undying universe with nothing more than guns. LOL. It's your problem if you can't deal with the manner in which Thanos was killed.

Caught Thanos unaware? Did you even read the comic? You must have made a conscious effort to ignore the panel where Thanos approaches Drax with aggression, where Thanos demands Drax to say his piece. Using that logic, if you ran up to someone at a bar and demand them to confront you, and they put you down with 1 punch, you would claim that you were caught unaware. Pathetic. Stop ignoring ("if those events didn't happen"😉 canon events. Stop supposing ("if thanos had only wiped his ass instead of using a douche"😉 events that never happened.

Drax killed Thanos. Schmidt went out to say that during Annihilation, Drax was the Silver Bullet to Thanos and there was nothign that Thanos could do to stop him. He would have killed Thanos regardless. Thanos never does anything beyond issue #4. He is irrelevant for nearly half of the series.

You have nothing.

Quan, just stop man. He's got you dead to rights here.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Drax had the device on his person. Where does the device come from otherwise. You cannot excuse Thanos for not being able to handle a simple device. I am not going to let that be used as an argument for Thanos being killed. This is comics. Weapons are used. Rocket Racoon carries guns. Starlord carries guns. Drax obviously, was carrying guns. Half of the guardians of the Galaxy (in fact, all of those who don't use TP/TK as a power) were carrying guns. There are plot device weapons like Reed's gun that 1-shots Celestials, and then there are devices like Drax's bomb. If one of them killed Thanos using the guns they were carrying you would cry foul because Thanos wasn't prepared for someone with no powers invading an undying universe with nothing more than guns. LOL. It's your problem if you can't deal with the manner in which Thanos was killed.

Caught Thanos unaware? Did you even read the comic? You must have made a conscious effort to ignore the panel where Thanos approaches Drax with aggression, where Thanos demands Drax to say his piece. Using that logic, if you ran up to someone at a bar and demand them to confront you, and they put you down with 1 punch, you would claim that you were caught unaware. Pathetic. Stop ignoring ("if those events didn't happen"😉 canon events. Stop supposing ("if thanos had only wiped his ass instead of using a douche"😉 events that never happened.

Drax killed Thanos. Schmidt went out to say that during Annihilation, Drax was the Silver Bullet to Thanos and there was nothign that Thanos could do to stop him. He would have killed Thanos regardless. Thanos never does anything beyond issue #4. He is irrelevant for nearly half of the series.

You have nothing.

Drax whipped that out and used it on Thanos so yes he was caught unaware but that's besides the fact Thanos came back and ended Drax. Drax has yet to resurface so Thanos uhm won their confrontation just like he did in gotg when he took on the entire team and they needed a cc to put down a feral Thanos.

There was nothing Thanos could do in that situation because his back was turned we saw afterwards Thanos easily best him with a team and then kill him. The only reason he bested him was because his back was turned. Context.

Thanos caused the tide to turn and it turns dramatically during 4 since he switched sides. Thanos is that big of a game changer which he proved in ti once agin. Universes crumble before his plans.

Originally posted by dmills
Quan, just stop man. He's got you dead to rights here.

You have nothing. First of all, I know you need help in this, because this is NOT the forum battles board dude. So your whole logic which has been slapping you in the face, falls apart. This is about story elements and about how decision makers intended them to go. Not some hypothetical bull shit that you're trying to pull and bring into a forum battles context because you are unsatisfied that Thanos pretty much was a non-factor in Annihilaiton, while Nova and others took over the show at Thanos' expense. I've vocalized it for you so you don't have to pretend any further. Drax killed Thanos twice. End of story. This is not a forum battle. Understand that now.

Thanos wasn't caught unaware. You conflate unaware with unpreparred, an error you frequently make, and is now time to stop letting you have a free pass with that.

He blew up Thanos. Thanos was dead. The "plot device" in question is that Death rejected Thanos (again) and that is the ONLY way Thanos returns. The fact that he killed Drax later on is irrelevant because, as I have already pointed out, Thanos was the avatar of Death and was MEANT to deliver death, and that is what Drax received.

And don't attempt to hold a double standard of "Thanos came back and beat drax" while dismissing the same plot elements that were in Annihilaiton that were the exact opposite: Draw was meant to, and will ALWAYS kill Thanos in Annihilation. Or do you want to apply your same chedder cheese logic and say that while Thanos will always kill Drax at the end of TI because he is the avatar of Death, Drax will always fail against Thanos in Annihilation because Drax doesn't catch him unaware? LOL. Go ahead and ignore what Schmidt said. Schmidt>>>>>>you now and forever more in regards to Annihilation. Argue with yourself in your own mind about what Thanos could and could have done. In the eyes of Marvel, in the records of canon, Nova ended Annihilus, Galactus destroyed the A-Wave, Surfer freed Galactus, Drax freed Surfer, and Moondragon discerned Annihilus' true plans, which Thanos was inept at doing.

You argue for a situation that will never be, and facts that will never change: Thanos was inconsequential in Annihilation after his death.

You have nothing, you hold nothing, except for a fantasy world. Let me tear it down for you, before you lose yourself in it further.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
You have nothing. First of all, I know you need help in this, because this is NOT the forum battles board dude. So your whole logic which has been slapping you in the face, falls apart. This is about story elements and about how decision makers intended them to go. Not some hypothetical bull shit that you're trying to pull and bring into a forum battles context because you are unsatisfied that Thanos pretty much was a non-factor in Annihilaiton, while Nova and others took over the show at Thanos' expense. I've vocalized it for you so you don't have to pretend any further. Drax killed Thanos twice. End of story. This is not a forum battle. Understand that now.

Thanos wasn't caught unaware. You conflate unaware with unpreparred, an error you frequently make, and is now time to stop letting you have a free pass with that.

He blew up Thanos. Thanos was dead. The "plot device" in question is that Death rejected Thanos (again) and that is the ONLY way Thanos returns. The fact that he killed Drax later on is irrelevant because, as I have already pointed out, Thanos was the avatar of Death and was MEANT to deliver death, and that is what Drax received.

And don't attempt to hold a double standard of "Thanos came back and beat drax" while dismissing the same plot elements that were in Annihilaiton that were the exact opposite: Draw was meant to, and will ALWAYS kill Thanos in Annihilation. Or do you want to apply your same chedder cheese logic and say that while Thanos will always kill Drax at the end of TI because he is the avatar of Death, Drax will always fail against Thanos in Annihilation because Drax doesn't catch him unaware? LOL. Go ahead and ignore what Schmidt said. Schmidt>>>>>>you now and forever more in regards to Annihilation. Argue with yourself in your own mind about what Thanos could and could have done. In the eyes of Marvel, in the records of canon, Nova ended Annihilus, Galactus destroyed the A-Wave, Surfer freed Galactus, Drax freed Surfer, and Moondragon discerned Annihilus' true plans, which Thanos was inept at doing.

You argue for a situation that will never be, and facts that will never change: Thanos was inconsequential in Annihilation after his death.

You have nothing, you hold nothing, except for a fantasy world. Let me tear it down for you, before you lose yourself in it further.

Thanos was killed due to him turning his back. Right on panel. Thanos once again was killed which per the story it didn't matter because he's unkillable per the story.

Unprepared and unaware are the same thing. He was unaware of his plot device bomb which in the end accomplished nothing since he's beyond death. 😉

Here even in his first showing characters basically giving away how you can't stop him no matter what you do so later on when he dies it comes as no shock why.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/GuardiansoftheGalaxyv225-017.jpg

Looks like the story once again backs me up.

Thanos wasn't able to be killed as the avatar of death.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/16-2.jpg

Once again Drax using a plot device meant nothing because Thanos was unkillable and this was referred to the entire story and proven later when it happened on panel.

Drax killed Thanos in annihilation because his back was turned and he changed which Thanos was unaware of. I fully embrace the facts never once did I deny what occurred on panel like you seem to hell bent on doing.

You want to dismiss the context of how this all happened. It's not in me to do so but apparently you seem to roll this way. Whatever suits you.

Thanos' actions changed the face of the events in annihilation both good and bad. That's how big of a game player he is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To say he was a nonfactor in annihilation is a complete and utter fabrication. Galactus was brought to his knees because Thanos set him up. Thanos changed the course of this battle and made it possible for Annihilus to even destroy both universes due to his involvement. Thanos once he realized it knew what simple step was needed to prevent this from occurring freeing Galactus.

Thanos was killed due to him turning his back. Right on panel. Thanos once again was killed which per the story it didn't matter because he's unkillable per the story.

Unprepared and unaware are the same thing. He was unaware of his plot device bomb which in the end accomplished nothing since he's beyond death. 😉

Here even in his first showing characters basically giving away how you can't stop him no matter what you do so later on when he dies it comes as no shock why.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/GuardiansoftheGalaxyv225-017.jpg

Looks like the story once again backs me up.

Thanos wasn't able to be killed as the avatar of death.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/16-2.jpg

Once again Drax using a plot device meant nothing because Thanos was unkillable and this was referred to the entire story and proven later when it happened on panel.

Drax killed Thanos in annihilation because his back was turned and he changed which Thanos was unaware of. I fully embrace the facts never once did I deny what occurred on panel like you seem to hell bent on doing.

You want to dismiss the context of how this all happened. It's not in me to do so but apparently you seem to roll this way. Whatever suits you.

Thanos' actions changed the face of the events in annihilation both good and bad. That's how big of a game player he is.

Thanos was compeltely irrelevant after his death. Does reading comprehension escape you now in addition to grasping canon events on panel? Of course he was a factor WHILE ALIVE but in your rush to look even more inept you decided to respond under the false assumption I said he was irrelevant all the way through. Which of course is false, and further underscores your weakness in your position. Wonderful. Continue living in your false reality LOL.

Thanos was killed twice. Not because he turned his back. The whole issue was building up Drax to be an unstoppable agent. You seriously want me to accept that the story called for Thanos to return from death because he is un-killable in TI due to death rejecting him, while you wish to ignore that all of Annihilation called for Drax to kill Thanos? Your weak, impoverished explanation is that Drax "changed." LOL. So Thanos stayed the same in TI? I see...tell me when was it establsihed prior to Drax killing him a 2nd time that Thanos was un-killable because Death rejected him? Go ahead....I'll wait before we continue this 1-sided discourse.