The Thanos Imperative!

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
First of all, disciple, this is MY thread, so you will not tell me what to do in it. Rather, I shall instruct you to cleanse your "logic" as it serves as nothing but a font of putrescence on the tranquility of clear thought.

Thanos will die whatever happens. Whether his back is turned, his shields inadequate...whether he is caught UNPREPARED ("I am Thanos, I prepare for any eventuality"😉 by Drax or whether he is caught unprepared with his pants down, Thanos will always be unprepared for Drax, and will always meet his end. Complain to Giffen in the manner in which Thanos died: Marvel determined that he should die and determined that Drax would do it. THey did not determine that Drax would have the ability to do it because Thanos had his back turned. Foolish to think otherwise: if it was as simple as having Thanos' back turned to explain his death, why have Drax at all in the story? Why waste panel upon panel of Drax all but predicting he would end thanos by the end of the comic. You have nothing to explain that and all you are going off on is an assumption that Thanos would win if they decided to have him face Drax. Irrelevant. Drax will always kill him no matter the circumstance. You cannot change the minds of Marvel editorial and the circus monkey has grown limp and prone from recursive logic that leads no where but up its brown, heinous ass hole. He was the living plot device the entire story and a plot device cannot be undone, because it is the means by which the plot is carried along. Not because "Thanos turned his back"

Thanos heard him coming and still did nothing. Either you give him more credit than he deserves, or he over-estimated his shields, or he was unprepared, or unaware, or incompetent, or overconfident, or just inadequate....

.....the fact that no adjective is in a positive light describes exactly what the story called for: his inevitable demise. Switching sides did nothing except further his own personal gain by being b Death's side; in terms of the A-Wave and its after-effects his decisions had zero ramifications what so ever.

Yes, it is imperative that you retrieve yourself from the ground. Let me dust you off, you've been unconscious for a little bit there.

how could i not?

sniper helpsmilie

If someone turns their back and doesn't fight back anyone can kill them an din this case Drax was created for this so it made this possible due to Thanos not even fighting back at the time. If Drax was unbeatable against Thanos he would have beaten him the first time he challenged him in TI. He wouldn't need a bomb either since he's the silver bullet thus proving you to be quite incorrect and me quite correct.

Thanos was unaware of his new abilities while we the reader are aware of them.

Thanos' actions were pivotal in the universe' fate. He ultimately dies by Drax but this doesn't change the fact that whenever Thanos sided with Annihilus he was winning, hard. Thanos changed sides then the heroes had a chance and ultimately when not having to deal with Thanos they had a chance.

It is imperative for the universe Thanos is needed. He ended up being the catalyst in bringing down a universe entire. Go Thanos go.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The only thing that needs help if your own logic not my own.

If someone turns their back and doesn't fight back anyone can kill them an din this case Drax was created for this so it made this possible due to Thanos not even fighting back at the time. If Drax was unbeatable against Thanos he would have beaten him the first time he challenged him in TI. He wouldn't need a bomb either since he's the silver bullet thus proving you to be quite incorrect and me quite correct.

Thanos was unaware of his new abilities while we the reader are aware of them.

Thanos' actions were pivotal in the universe' fate. He ultimately dies by Drax but this doesn't change the fact that whenever Thanos sided with Annihilus he was winning, hard. Thanos changed sides then the heroes had a chance and ultimately when not having to deal with Thanos they had a chance.

It is imperative for the universe Thanos is needed. He ended up being the catalyst in bringing down a universe entire. Go Thanos go.

Ah more bad comedy. The silver bullet applies only to Annihilation, which was the built-in plot device to end Thanos with a fist pump. By Imperative the plot device has switched to Thanos: death has rejected him due to sexual impotency (is that why she weeps at the end of issue 6?), and so Thanos cannot be killed in the traditional sense (like he was by Drax in Annihilation). Using a bomb? Did you miss the issuewhere all of the guardians travel to the cancer-verse with guns and bombs? Therefore by your logic it would be "imperative" for you to conclude that if any of them killed thanos with their weapons they would all be plot-device guns and pistols. You have to be joking if you expect me to take you seriously that Thanos can't even deal with a bomb. This is a feat that's below Magneto level, Nimrod level, Forge level, Wolverine level, Hulk level, probably Spider-Man level, etc., yet you are begging and pandering like a stray dog that Thanos was caught off guard and unprepared (AGAIN!) so the bomb of course, gets elevated from something Drax had on his person to a device that allowed Drax to dictate plot along the lines of the Infinity Gauntlet. You are too caught up in the versus forum...so much so that you stamped your feet telling me to get out of my own thread LOL. You act and assume as if everything between Drax and Thanos must occur within the realm of Hulk vs. Abom fights where all they do is just trade blows in close quarters combat. Comical.

When Thanos switched sides, all he did was alert the Drones to his prescence and actions, drones which Drax tore through. Yes Thanos was unaware of Drax's new abilities while we as the reader were aware of them. Perfect, you are nearly a member of the Church of Universal Truth, however you've yet to acknowledge that Thanos will **remain** UNAWARE of Drax's new abilities hence why Drax will own him every time in Annihilation because the plot demanded that Drax be the silver bullet. Not because the plot demaned Thanos had his back turned, thus enabling Drax to be the silver bullet. That is laughable and you must now clean up the brown logic that litters the floor to the extent that you yourself are slipping and blundering about on it like hapless elephant.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Ah more bad comedy. The silver bullet applies only to Annihilation, which was the built-in plot device to end Thanos with a fist pump. By Imperative the plot device has switched to Thanos: death has rejected him due to sexual impotency (is that why she weeps at the end of issue 6?), and so Thanos cannot be killed in the traditional sense (like he was by Drax in Annihilation). Using a bomb? Did you miss the issuewhere all of the guardians travel to the cancer-verse with guns and bombs? Therefore by your logic it would be "imperative" for you to conclude that if any of them killed thanos with their weapons they would all be plot-device guns and pistols. You have to be joking if you expect me to take you seriously that Thanos can't even deal with a bomb. This is a feat that's below Magneto level, Nimrod level, Forge level, Wolverine level, Hulk level, probably Spider-Man level, etc., yet you are begging and pandering like a stray dog that Thanos was caught off guard and unprepared (AGAIN!) so the bomb of course, gets elevated from something Drax had on his person to a device that allowed Drax to dictate plot along the lines of the Infinity Gauntlet. You are too caught up in the versus forum...so much so that you stamped your feet telling me to get out of my own thread LOL. You act and assume as if everything between Drax and Thanos must occur within the realm of Hulk vs. Abom fights where all they do is just trade blows in close quarters combat. Comical.

When Thanos switched sides, all he did was alert the Drones to his prescence and actions, drones which Drax tore through. Yes Thanos was unaware of Drax's new abilities while we as the reader were aware of them. Perfect, you are nearly a member of the Church of Universal Truth, however you've yet to acknowledge that Thanos will **remain** UNAWARE of Drax's new abilities hence why Drax will own him every time in Annihilation because the plot demanded that Drax be the silver bullet. Not because the plot demaned Thanos had his back turned, thus enabling Drax to be the silver bullet. That is laughable and you must now clean up the brown logic that litters the floor to the extent that you yourself are slipping and blundering about on it like hapless elephant.

Any writer can create any weapon to be any sort of plot device aka reed building a gun to give the Lt problems aka ww hulk being depowered by a satellite and your response being it was just a gun and a satellite. You have no concept of storytelling whatsoever. That's why I understand and comprehend this stuff at a higher level than you because when you see "gun" or "bomb" you lose all common sense.

A "gun" gave Lt problems so a "gun" or a "bomb" has nothing to do with anything it's how the writer chooses to define the gun or bomb in that given story.

Feel the burn.

Thanos' history goes on it doesn't stop in annihilation so as he does and in the end gets reunited with death which is exactly what the man wants he will always come back and kill Drax. His actions in annihilation will always remain pivotal forever.

Thanos is imperative. Remember that.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Drax had the device on his person. Where does the device come from otherwise. You cannot excuse Thanos for not being able to handle a simple device. I am not going to let that be used as an argument for Thanos being killed. This is comics. Weapons are used. Rocket Racoon carries guns. Starlord carries guns. Drax obviously, was carrying guns. Half of the guardians of the Galaxy (in fact, all of those who don't use TP/TK as a power) were carrying guns. There are plot device weapons like Reed's gun that 1-shots Celestials, and then there are devices like Drax's bomb. If one of them killed Thanos using the guns they were carrying you would cry foul because Thanos wasn't prepared for someone with no powers invading an undying universe with nothing more than guns. LOL. It's your problem if you can't deal with the manner in which Thanos was killed.

Caught Thanos unaware? Did you even read the comic? You must have made a conscious effort to ignore the panel where Thanos approaches Drax with aggression, where Thanos demands Drax to say his piece. Using that logic, if you ran up to someone at a bar and demand them to confront you, and they put you down with 1 punch, you would claim that you were caught unaware. Pathetic. Stop ignoring ("if those events didn't happen"😉 canon events. Stop supposing ("if thanos had only wiped his ass instead of using a douche"😉 events that never happened.

Drax killed Thanos. Schmidt went out to say that during Annihilation, Drax was the Silver Bullet to Thanos and there was nothign that Thanos could do to stop him. He would have killed Thanos regardless. Thanos never does anything beyond issue #4. He is irrelevant for nearly half of the series.

You have nothing.

Hey PC.. how goes it buddy?

I just want to point out one thing I think you're forgetting. When Drax killed Thanos.. Thanos was still not at full power. Not only that, his durability was SPECIFICALLY mentioned as not appearing to be as good as normal. When Drax did or what anybody did to Thanos.. are done to a Thanos NOT at full power.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Hey PC.. how goes it buddy?

I just want to point out one thing I think you're forgetting. When Drax killed Thanos.. Thanos was still not at full power. Not only that, his durability was SPECIFICALLY mentioned as not appearing to be as good as normal. When Drax did or what anybody did to Thanos.. are done to a Thanos NOT at full power.

And yet a few minutes after that he was facing Marvell, the Revengers, a cosmic cube and Nova at full power... Right?

Thanos is simply that powerful

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos is simply that powerful

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Hey PC.. how goes it buddy?

I just want to point out one thing I think you're forgetting. When Drax killed Thanos.. Thanos was still not at full power. Not only that, his durability was SPECIFICALLY mentioned as not appearing to be as good as normal. When Drax did or what anybody did to Thanos.. are done to a Thanos NOT at full power.

That's...convenient.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So if anyone hurts Thanos it's because he's not at full power?

That's...convenient.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Did kp make it up or was this stated on panel ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
As does the context of how it was accomplished. I love how you want to disregard continuity and ignore the context it shows how obsessed you are.

Any writer can create any weapon to be any sort of plot device aka reed building a gun to give the Lt problems aka ww hulk being depowered by a satellite and your response being it was just a gun and a satellite. You have no concept of storytelling whatsoever. That's why I understand and comprehend this stuff at a higher level than you because when you see "gun" or "bomb" you lose all common sense.

A "gun" gave Lt problems so a "gun" or a "bomb" has nothing to do with anything it's how the writer chooses to define the gun or bomb in that given story.

Feel the burn.

Thanos' history goes on it doesn't stop in annihilation so as he does and in the end gets reunited with death which is exactly what the man wants he will always come back and kill Drax. His actions in annihilation will always remain pivotal forever.

Thanos is imperative. Remember that.

I love how you disregard the word of someone perpetually closer to the creative process involving Thanos that you'll ever be...dispute my words, dipute Marvel's, but of course, I'm not here to tell you what to think, only that you think entirely incorrectly

Since when was Reed designed to take on the LT? LOL. On top of your inept attempts at narrative analysis, you must also go back and do over your SAT verbal section and work on those analogies, cause son you need work! You understand that your logic is inadequate and grasp for some higher validation by telling me mine is insufficient. Comical dude, your slippery grasp of plot elements, narrartive devices, and editorial intent (especially the latter, there you are as comfortable as a fish in a tree, and have yet to manufacture an inadequate response) have already proven that all words you have spoken since the first post in response to mine were based on whimsical supposition, biased interpretation, and contrarian views. Thanos died by Drax. He did nothing at all in Annihilaiton after his death except smile. He set into motion nothing at all prior to his death to undo Annihilus. He failed to perceive Drax as a mortal threat to his person. All canon, all fact. Don't come running to me because you feel his death was cheap. The fact is he had ample time to react and chose not to do so. The fact is that he was caught unprepared "for any eventuallity" and paid the price. The fact is that the writers determined that Thanos should die FIRST, then determined who would kill him SECOND, and then, at some point along the decsision process, somebody told Andrea Di Vito to have Thanos facing the dial all the way through. You will never....eeeeeeeeeever convince anybody that the decision to kill Thanos came about because keith giffen saw the finished page of Thanos' back turned to Drax, and then he magically inserts Thanos' heart in Drax's hand while deciding right then and there that Thanos would meet his end. Laughable. Despite your amusing attempts to grovel and proffer that all else in annihilaiton would be irrelevant if Thanos didn't have his back turned.

Go to Giffen's house, knock down the door, and demand he re-write the scene so they face each other 1-on-1. Then demand that Thanos lives and Drax does not kill him. Go to Schmidt's house and demand the same, they may be gracious enough to send your personalized story to Di Vito to be drawn and inked, and after a few weeks' turnaround you'll have your own version of Annihilaiton that matches the outcome you desperately pine for.

A 1-of-a-kind story. Not produced any where else in the world. Singular in content and meaning, which would be the one tool that you can use to fulfill your fantastical wishes for how the story ended up.

Or they could just tell you "what's the point, Thanos would die in the end anyway."

I tell you, I feel the burn because the skid marks all over your backside are so deep they still sizzle.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Hey PC.. how goes it buddy?

I just want to point out one thing I think you're forgetting. When Drax killed Thanos.. Thanos was still not at full power. Not only that, his durability was SPECIFICALLY mentioned as not appearing to be as good as normal. When Drax did or what anybody did to Thanos.. are done to a Thanos NOT at full power.

The point I am making is that Drax catches Thanos unaware and unpreparred in both deaths. This isn't a versus discussion, which someone is intent on imposing. The discussion is the plot elements involved: Drax has killed Thanos twice and thus proves he has the capability and will to do so.

In Annihilaiton the EDITOR of the entire story specifically proclaimed that Drax would act as a living silver bullet and kill Thanos. That's it. That piece of news was publically announced before Annihilaiton 4 was released. The decision to kill Thanos is a plot element, the manner in which he died is irrelevant because as long as the editor and the writers determined before-hand that the character should die, and spent the great majority of the issue building up to that point, PLUS the fact that they publically announced Thanos' death prior to the issue even being released, all points to 1 singular intent: That Thanos should die by Drax's hand.

The intent was never that Thanos should die by Drax's hand ONLY BECAUSE Thanos had his back turned. That is a laughable supposition. Drax will always kill Thanos in Annihlaiton because that was determined how it would be. Just as Tenebrous and Aegis would ALWAYS beat Galactus becuase that was determined how it would be. In versus forums I'll argue that T&A beat Galactus because Aegis came from behind with a sucker punch blast that gave him the KO. However this is not the versus forum.
In versus forums the Thanos fan who has been posting (in great futility) can argue that Thanos had his back turned and that is how Drax beat him. From a versus forum perspective, I'd agree. This is not the versus forum. This is discussing what happened in the comics and the stories contained therein. Thanos having his back turned, Thanos sitting down, thanos going ferral, Thanos laughing, Thanos going spread-eagle, all are irrelevant towards the Drax issue because Drax will always kill him in Annihilation.

To reiterate in terms of my favorite character, Galactus: The fact of the matter is that the story demanded Annihilus capture Galactus. In order to do that, Galactus had to be defeated. That's it. It doesn't matter whether Aegis sucker punched him or fought him head on...he will always get defeated by T&A and he will always be caught by Annihilus in his weaponized form no matter the circumstances of the fight. Drax will always kill Thanos in Annihilation. He was all but said to be a plot device, literally (silver bullet=plot device specifically designed to bring down the werewolf, while all other normal bullets can't) Some people have difficulty grasping this simple truth.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
I love how you disregard the word of someone perpetually closer to the creative process involving Thanos that you'll ever be...dispute my words, dipute Marvel's, but of course, I'm not here to tell you what to think, only that you think entirely incorrectly

Since when was Reed designed to take on the LT? LOL. On top of your inept attempts at narrative analysis, you must also go back and do over your SAT verbal section and work on those analogies, cause son you need work! You understand that your logic is inadequate and grasp for some higher validation by telling me mine is insufficient. Comical dude, your slippery grasp of plot elements, narrartive devices, and editorial intent (especially the latter, there you are as comfortable as a fish in a tree, and have yet to manufacture an inadequate response) have already proven that all words you have spoken since the first post in response to mine were based on whimsical supposition, biased interpretation, and contrarian views. Thanos died by Drax. He did nothing at all in Annihilaiton after his death except smile. He set into motion nothing at all prior to his death to undo Annihilus. He failed to perceive Drax as a mortal threat to his person. All canon, all fact. Don't come running to me because you feel his death was cheap. The fact is he had ample time to react and chose not to do so. The fact is that he was caught unprepared "for any eventuallity" and paid the price. The fact is that the writers determined that Thanos should die FIRST, then determined who would kill him SECOND, and then, at some point along the decsision process, somebody told Andrea Di Vito to have Thanos facing the dial all the way through. You will never....eeeeeeeeeever convince anybody that the decision to kill Thanos came about because keith giffen saw the finished page of Thanos' back turned to Drax, and then he magically inserts Thanos' heart in Drax's hand while deciding right then and there that Thanos would meet his end. Laughable. Despite your amusing attempts to grovel and proffer that all else in annihilaiton would be irrelevant if Thanos didn't have his back turned.

Go to Giffen's house, knock down the door, and demand he re-write the scene so they face each other 1-on-1. Then demand that Thanos lives and Drax does not kill him. Go to Schmidt's house and demand the same, they may be gracious enough to send your personalized story to Di Vito to be drawn and inked, and after a few weeks' turnaround you'll have your own version of Annihilaiton that matches the outcome you desperately pine for.

A 1-of-a-kind story. Not produced any where else in the world. Singular in content and meaning, which would be the one tool that you can use to fulfill your fantastical wishes for how the story ended up.

Or they could just tell you "what's the point, Thanos would die in the end anyway."

I tell you, I feel the burn because the skid marks all over your backside are so deep they still sizzle.

I agree Drax killed Thanos but the only reason he was capable was because of his recent transformation and Thanos having his back turned. If you can't own up to that then you really aren't being honest with yourself. You can live in denial for all I care it still won't change the context of it all. Thanos is a gamechanger and you acting like all "guns", "bombs", and satellites are the same is delusional once again. You need to rethink your responses and concede to defeat.

Again you can whine and moan all day long it still won't change the context of the feat. Nope.

😉

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't know. I'm just pointing out how it sounds: convenient.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If it's stated on panel then it's a fact. People hate Thanos because he's either smarter or more powerful or both than their favorite characters and it drives them crazy.

And it wasn't stated on panel.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't know. I'm just pointing out how it sounds: convenient.

Did you take your slow pills again today OV? Please point me to any post where i said if anybody beats Thanos it's because he wasn't at full power? Any post please. I certainly didn't say it here, so I'm not sure where you got that nonsense. It was confirmed on panel numerous times he wasn't at full power and even his durability was specifically mentioned as being weaker. Fact.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
The point I am making is that Drax catches Thanos unaware and unpreparred in both deaths. This isn't a versus discussion, which someone is intent on imposing. The discussion is the plot elements involved: Drax has killed Thanos twice and thus proves he has the capability and will to do so.

In Annihilaiton the EDITOR of the entire story specifically proclaimed that Drax would act as a living silver bullet and kill Thanos. That's it. That piece of news was publically announced before Annihilaiton 4 was released. The decision to kill Thanos is a plot element, the manner in which he died is irrelevant because as long as the editor and the writers determined before-hand that the character should die, and spent the great majority of the issue building up to that point, PLUS the fact that they publically announced Thanos' death prior to the issue even being released, all points to 1 singular intent: That Thanos should die by Drax's hand.

The intent was never that Thanos should die by Drax's hand ONLY BECAUSE Thanos had his back turned. That is a laughable supposition. Drax will always kill Thanos in Annihlaiton because that was determined how it would be. Just as Tenebrous and Aegis would ALWAYS beat Galactus becuase that was determined how it would be. In versus forums I'll argue that T&A beat Galactus because Aegis came from behind with a sucker punch blast that gave him the KO. However this is not the versus forum.
In versus forums the Thanos fan who has been posting (in great futility) can argue that Thanos had his back turned and that is how Drax beat him. From a versus forum perspective, I'd agree. This is not the versus forum. This is discussing what happened in the comics and the stories contained therein. Thanos having his back turned, Thanos sitting down, thanos going ferral, Thanos laughing, Thanos going spread-eagle, all are irrelevant towards the Drax issue because Drax will always kill him in Annihilation.

To reiterate in terms of my favorite character, Galactus: The fact of the matter is that the story demanded Annihilus capture Galactus. In order to do that, Galactus had to be defeated. That's it. It doesn't matter whether Aegis sucker punched him or fought him head on...he will always get defeated by T&A and he will always be caught by Annihilus in his weaponized form no matter the circumstances of the fight. Drax will always kill Thanos in Annihilation. He was all but said to be a plot device, literally (silver bullet=plot device specifically designed to bring down the werewolf, while all other normal bullets can't) Some people have difficulty grasping this simple truth.

I'm not disagreeing with some of what your saying and I never have. However, to just say Drax killed him, and not mention that he wasn't at full power and his durability was lower than lower.. seems.. well not accurate or the complete story.. Fair enough?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Did you take your slow pills again today OV? Please point me to any post where i said if anybody beats Thanos it's because he wasn't at full power? Any post please. I certainly didn't say it here, so I'm not sure where you got that nonsense. It was confirmed on panel numerous times he wasn't at full power and even his durability was specifically mentioned as being weaker. Fact.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Hey PC.. how goes it buddy?

I just want to point out one thing I think you're forgetting. When Drax killed Thanos.. Thanos was still not at full power. Not only that, his durability was SPECIFICALLY mentioned as not appearing to be as good as normal. When Drax did or what anybody did to Thanos.. are done to a Thanos NOT at full power.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos is simply that powerful

You see, this is exactly how forum myths are created, someone takes an interpretation of whatever happened in a story and tries to impose it to the rest of the forums mostly as a debate tool.

Was it the intent of the Thanos Imperative to have us say "here is a depowered Thanos having adventures", of course not, at some point of the series Thanos is depowered, but the intent was never to assume Thanos wouldn't be himself, because a mini about Thanos is supposed to have him work as the character is, and not differently.

I could argue -I did so a few pages back-, that Drax has killed Thanos and knows how much it takes to deal with him, so it doesn't matter if Thanos was depowered because he can be overkilled. Drax intended to off Thanos and he would've done so given the chance, depowered or not. There is no real reason to assume otherwise.

Originally posted by Black bolt z

Huh? he was saying I was saying ANYTIME anybody has done anything to Thanos it was because he wasn't at full power. I was saying anything anybody did anything to Thanos during The Thanos Imperative he wasn't at full power which is a spot on fact. I was only talking about this particular arc not his in his entire history.