The Thanos Imperative!

Originally posted by Bentley
You see, this is exactly how forum myths are created, someone takes an interpretation of whatever happened in a story and tries to impose it to the rest of the forums mostly as a debate tool.

Was it the intent of the Thanos Imperative to have us say "here is a depowered Thanos having adventures", of course not, at some point of the series Thanos is depowered, but the intent was never to assume Thanos wouldn't be himself, because a mini about Thanos is supposed to have him work as the character is, and not differently.

I could argue -I did so a few pages back-, that Drax has killed Thanos and knows how much it takes to deal with him, so it doesn't matter if Thanos was depowered because he can be overkilled. Drax intended to off Thanos and he would've done so given the chance, depowered or not. There is no real reason to assume otherwise.

I'm unclear what you're trying to say... You agree he was depowered.. but don't want it mentioned because it's still a story about Thanos? Huh?

More like, keep the Vs trash talk in the Vs Forums ahah

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Did you take your slow pills again today OV? Please point me to any post where i said if anybody beats Thanos it's because he wasn't at full power? Any post please. I certainly didn't say it here, so I'm not sure where you got that nonsense. It was confirmed on panel numerous times he wasn't at full power and even his durability was specifically mentioned as being weaker. Fact.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
When Drax did or what anybody did to Thanos.. are done to a Thanos NOT at full power.

Something that's only reinforced by your predictable response.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No hes not.

And it wasn't stated on panel.

How is it conveinent, when in fact, it's a fact? Anything done do Thanos in that arc was when he wasn't at full power. Fact. Just like anything he did was when he wasn't at full power

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How is it conveinent, when in fact, it's a fact? Anything done do Thanos in that arc was when he wasn't at full power. Fact. Just like anything he did was when he wasn't at full power

Sounds like some purple tint to me.

Read the arc.

Ask PC... RR.. specifically mentions Thanos durability didn't seem up to par. Fact

It is mentioned countless time throughout the arc that he is both mentally and physically weak. Fact

Even right before drax killed THanos... it was mentioned again.. that he had regained some strength and was tougher to control but still not at full power. Fact

TI #1

Rocket Raccoon says, "..you're not back to full strength to take a hit from one of these babies," this is before they enter the cancerverse

TI#2

Once they enter the cancerverse, Thanos is weakened even further and collapses. When he gets up he one-shots the entire cancerverse defenders and says "I'm having great difficulty...retaining my mental....composure....in this universe"

TI#3

Mantis states "Thanos has recovered too much power" for her and the other three telepaths to mindlock him. (in the context of the scan they meant he regained too much power for them to use telepathy to hold him back, not that he was close to his full power).

TI#5 they also mention him recovering power steadily. This is after Thanos kills Drax. Correct me if I'm wrong but it was never stated that Thanos regained his full powers

I have scans but I'm not allowed to post links because I'm new 😖

Of course you're not wrong.. This is exactly what I've been saying and exactly how it went down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am going with on panel confirmation of what went down you aren't. You avoid context whereas I embrace it.

I agree Drax killed Thanos but the only reason he was capable was because of his recent transformation and Thanos having his back turned. If you can't own up to that then you really aren't being honest with yourself. You can live in denial for all I care it still won't change the context of it all. Thanos is a gamechanger and you acting like all "guns", "bombs", and satellites are the same is delusional once again. You need to rethink your responses and concede to defeat.

Again you can whine and moan all day long it still won't change the context of the feat. Nope.

😉

Any time you ask for concession for defeat, you've exhausted your own position and thus seek pre-emptive concession before you yourself acknowledge it...never ever ever!

Whining? LOL. I'm not the one one whining, I'm the one going by the editor, story intent, and canonical facts (Thanos did nothing post death to effect the plot in Annihilaiton). Own up to that? The only thing I need to own here is your logic, which I have done for the past 3 pages or whatever. You, of course, struggle like a donkey in a great library due to your inability to grasp plot structure and narritive technique: and newsflash, my disciple, reading comics doesn't qualify you for understanding either of them. But of course, I already won this debate before it even began: you're arguing for a conditional circumstance which quite frankly is quite meaningless to literally everyone but yourself, sincce what remains and what is cannon is exactly what I have said: Thanos had zero impact on Annihilation after his death, and had near zero impact from the moment Moondragon discovered Annihilus' true plans, to when he was dropped by Drax. The only reason he was able to kill Thanos is because the writers, the editors, Marvel, etc. determined that Thanos would die. Your limited perception only looks at artistic depictions from a versus forum tunnel mentality. I am the Living Tribunal to your Spider-Man since I view the totality of everything, and don't disregard the writer's intent, which you are despare to do since that is all you have. LOL. This isn't the vs. forum. How many times must you read that to understand...it is ok, I am a patient man. They built up Drax the whole issue, Schmidt spoiled the outcome to reveal what was going to happen...no where in any of the post issue commentary did Schmidt or Giffen attribute Thanos' death to his back being turned. That is purely your whine, which is so brown with shit logic your anus and mouth are beginning to excrete the same exact thing. But of course, you must rely on convincing yourself that I am the whiner. Go, continue to do so...I do not care, as your begging for concession of defeat already revealed that you have done so for yourself.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Any time you ask for concession for defeat, you've exhausted your own position and thus seek pre-emptive concession before you yourself acknowledge it...never ever ever!

Whining? LOL. I'm not the one one whining, I'm the one going by the editor, story intent, and canonical facts (Thanos did nothing post death to effect the plot in Annihilaiton). Own up to that? The only thing I need to own here is your logic, which I have done for the past 3 pages or whatever. You, of course, struggle like a donkey in a great library due to your inability to grasp plot structure and narritive technique: and newsflash, my disciple, reading comics doesn't qualify you for understanding either of them. But of course, I already won this debate before it even began: you're arguing for a conditional circumstance which quite frankly is quite meaningless to literally everyone but yourself, sincce what remains and what is cannon is exactly what I have said: Thanos had zero impact on Annihilation after his death, and had near zero impact from the moment Moondragon discovered Annihilus' true plans, to when he was dropped by Drax. The only reason he was able to kill Thanos is because the writers, the editors, Marvel, etc. determined that Thanos would die. Your limited perception only looks at artistic depictions from a versus forum tunnel mentality. I am the Living Tribunal to your Spider-Man since I view the totality of everything, and don't disregard the writer's intent, which you are despare to do since that is all you have. LOL. This isn't the vs. forum. How many times must you read that to understand...it is ok, I am a patient man. They built up Drax the whole issue, Schmidt spoiled the outcome to reveal what was going to happen...no where in any of the post issue commentary did Schmidt or Giffen attribute Thanos' death to his back being turned. That is purely your whine, which is so brown with shit logic your anus and mouth are beginning to excrete the same exact thing. But of course, you must rely on convincing yourself that I am the whiner. Go, continue to do so...I do not care, as your begging for concession of defeat already revealed that you have done so for yourself.

Of course he didn't he was dead and by Mistress Death's side my point was whatever side he allied himself was winning and the moment he switched sides Annihilus thereby lost. Thanos is that good.

I stated Thanos' actions greatly influenced the fate of the universe in this which it did. Thanos was responsible for Galactus' capture because let's face it he's a giant jobber who is easily bested left and right and easily outsmarted story by story and in this story he was Thanos' guinea pig.

They did build up Drax but the context of the scene wasn't like he was just wrecked Thanos who couldn't do anything to stop him he wrecked a Thanos not even engaging him with his back turned. We've seen how easily Thanos can defeat him after this story and before when he is actually engaging him. Even in annihilation Drax never defeated Thanos while he fought back so the context is with his back turned and with him unaware Drax can kill him since he's his silver bullet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you sure ?

Quanchi arguing about the context of the story.
PC arguing about the writer's mindsets.
I wouldn't say either are wrong tbh, but you guy's are pretty much arguing just to argue. I can tell this discussion is surely headed in an agreeable stance everyone can be happy with.

Anyway, when is Devastation out?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Quanchi arguing about the context of the story.
PC arguing about the writer's mindsets.
I wouldn't say either are wrong tbh, but you guy's are pretty much arguing just to argue. I can tell this discussion is surely headed in an agreeable stance everyone can be happy with.

Anyway, when is Devastation out?

Personally, i am entertained by the whole thing, and will continue when i take a break from work tomorrow.

Devastation supposedly in jan. i think i posted the preview several posts up...with cosmo on surfer's board

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are running in fear from the context whereas I am owning up to the entire situation. I always debate based on the comics whereas most other debate based on their opinions only.

Of course he didn't he was dead and by Mistress Death's side my point was whatever side he allied himself was winning and the moment he switched sides Annihilus thereby lost. Thanos is that good.

I stated Thanos' actions greatly influenced the fate of the universe in this which it did. Thanos was responsible for Galactus' capture because let's face it he's a giant jobber who is easily bested left and right and easily outsmarted story by story and in this story he was Thanos' guinea pig.

They did build up Drax but the context of the scene wasn't like he was just wrecked Thanos who couldn't do anything to stop him he wrecked a Thanos not even engaging him with his back turned. We've seen how easily Thanos can defeat him after this story and before when he is actually engaging him. Even in annihilation Drax never defeated Thanos while he fought back so the context is with his back turned and with him unaware Drax can kill him since he's his silver bullet.

yawn. the entire situation is what the masterminds behind the whole event elaborated on. You're like on street-level while higher intellects discuss implications from a universal view-point. Drax bested Thanos because he was designed to best him and will best Thanos all the time, in any situation in Annihilation because never did they eeeeever say "Thanos' back" as the reason, the fundamental driver in plot. This isn't the versus forum (for the millionth time). Thanos will always be ineffectual once Drax enters the fray. You're trying to dumb down this discussion into how Drax could beat Thanos when the entire point is that Thanos was ineffectual once he switched sides, and Drax is the tool to put him down. You debate as if this is a vs forum discussion and that is why you were never in this to begin with. This isn't about a battle. This is about how the story unfolded and what were the takeaways from the plot elements. Thanos will always loose in this tale and he will never be effectual in the fantastical setting you put forth. And let's not kid yourself, when he switched sides, all he did was drop down. That literally had as much impact as one of annihilus' drones dropping dead in terms of controlling how events unfolded thereafter, because the moment he switched sides all he did was die and contributed...what exactly? to the undoing of annihilus? What did he do? How did switching sides determine the course of events? Nothing.

T&A already had a vendetta against Galactus. They would have found him regardless of Thanos and would have handled their business regardless of his plight. Thanos needed T&A, never assume it that it was the other way around. And don't act like Thanos had to convince them in a long oratory of why they should do the heavy lifting in taking down Big G 😆 The guy who duped Thanos was defeated in hand-to-hand combat by the last cop in the universe and Big G eliminated his armada...none of that whatsoever has anything to do with Thanos which is why you're so displeased and grovelling for circumstantial situations.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
yawn. the entire situation is what the masterminds behind the whole event elaborated on. You're like on street-level while higher intellects discuss implications from a universal view-point. Drax bested Thanos because he was designed to best him and will best Thanos all the time, in any situation in Annihilation because never did they eeeeever say "Thanos' back" as the reason, the fundamental driver in plot. This isn't the versus forum (for the millionth time). Thanos will always be ineffectual once Drax enters the fray. You're trying to dumb down this discussion into how Drax could beat Thanos when the entire point is that Thanos was ineffectual once he switched sides, and Drax is the tool to put him down. You debate as if this is a vs forum discussion and that is why you were never in this to begin with. This isn't about a battle. This is about how the story unfolded and what were the takeaways from the plot elements. Thanos will always loose in this tale and he will never be effectual in the fantastical setting you put forth. And let's not kid yourself, when he switched sides, all he did was drop down. That literally had as much impact as one of annihilus' drones dropping dead in terms of controlling how events unfolded thereafter, because the moment he switched sides all he did was die and contributed...what exactly? to the undoing of annihilus? What did he do? How did switching sides determine the course of events? Nothing.

T&A already had a vendetta against Galactus. They would have found him regardless of Thanos and would have handled their business regardless of his plight. Thanos needed T&A, never assume it that it was the other way around. And don't act like Thanos had to convince them in a long oratory of why they should do the heavy lifting in taking down Big G 😆 The guy who duped Thanos was defeated in hand-to-hand combat by the last cop in the universe and Big G eliminated his armada...none of that whatsoever has anything to do with Thanos which is why you're so displeased and grovelling for circumstantial situations.

I never said Thanos would win in this tale my point was he was a huge game changed in this story which you cannot ever take away. I mean you aren't even intelligent enough to keep up with my point and want to switch this into a vs. argument. You lost a ways back.

You can't change the fact T and A were sent by Thanos so you can't say what would have happened and be a hypocrite in your very own post as Thanos will always send them after that cosmic loser Galactus. I mean isn 't herc just slapping G around like nothing. The guy loses with so much power I question his intelligence because he always finds ways to lose. I will use your own points against you with your own logic but at the en dof the day my point still stands Thanos is a game changer like always.

TI was good but not great.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
TI was good but not great.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Anything starring Thanos is great.

Indeed