The Scenario
Greater Sci-Fi combatant
Originally posted by DarkC
Well, what I meant is that the Omega was only used for one purpose, to kill Gorea. And it was only used for a few minutes on the last 'phase' of the encounter.
It's sort of a recent tradition of Metroid to have the final boss defeated by something Samus got a few minutes before. The Hyper Beam worked this way. Samus' Phazon Suit converted nearby phazon into a beam weapon out of nowhere, her charge beam once suddenly gained the ability to absorb a boss' attack to fire it back when it couldn't before (and hasn't done so since). This once even happened to the Ice Beam, despite usually being gained midway through the game.
I automatically assumed the other weaponry as acceptable simply because they were used more than just one phase of one boss fight. It's up to thread creator to clarify the decision though.
Eh, he did say everything was allowed.
All those listed are physical attacks. Whether he would survive a head on hit without trying to protect himself with a orb of nuclear capability power I cannot say. I'm pretty sure that if Arthas and Icecrown Citadel could be just nuked into the ground that the good guys wouldn't have wasted so many lives and finance and instead just developed some giant-ass bomb. Hell, if they can engineer teleportation I would definitely imagine a bomb isn't something to fuss about either.
I blame the Gnomes. They don't exactly have great guns, and the only explosives I've seen are gunpowder based. Also, PIS may have been involved. I know it's possible to enchant guns and gunpowder, so a magic bomb shouldn't be too tough to pull off. There's no way to tell unless someone actually tries it.
Thus far there hasn't and never will be a demonstration of the Lich King's defensive abilities, considering he's dead. So I won't go around throwing bombshells and theories regarding LK specifically. But other mages in the Warcraft lore, even in a weakened state, could hold off a lot of things. Krasus for example, even when exhausted he could hold up a magical barrier against a enormous burst of elemental lava from Deathwing (dragon aspect who turned to the Dark Side, to put things simply)
Interesting, but Samus is armed with things more potent than lava, and can even swim in the stuff without harm. Yeah, weakest one and all that, but I've never been fond of that kind of example as it only establishes a lower limit, rather than a higher one. And looking them both up, it seem Krasus is something of a badass, so the barrier holding doesn't seem out of the ordinary.
Now, if the Omega Beam does manage to hurt or kill his physical shell, it's not a magical attack. It would only put him down temporarily. As I said in the other thread, you'd have to destroy the helm and the sword too in order to put him down for good, and those need magic.
I dunno. Wouldn't something like that still count as a defeat, if not a death? How fast could he reform?
But all that needs to be considered if Omega Beam hits him. From what I garner, it's quite slow for a beam. And while LK isn't nearly as quick as Samus, he isn't exactly sluggish. He still retains Arthas martial abilities, which are amplified through Frostmourne.
It makes up for speed with a rather huge blast radius, along with attack power. And until we finally see Samus engaged in melee, I'm going to assume she'll stay at range as long as possible.
As for the other beam attacks, the electricity and whatnot - those aren't magical attacks either. He's faced down users of the primal forces of these types of attacks. For example, he's superior to the Aspect of Magic, Malygos - who's done things like some crazy ass existence-wiping beam, plus things like pure elemental lightning, not just a lightning beam like Samus. I'm not downgrading Samus's gear, but her gear just doesn't match up to something of that magnitude.
What is magic, really? It's impossible to say what makes it superior. I can't say anything about magic, but lightning I can argue. One of Samus' weapons draws directly from the electromagnetic field of whatever planet she's on, or from the suit itself. Whichever. She took that one from a guy who was constantly giving off enough electrical energy to rival an entire thunderstorm, and every single lightning bolt contained within. These weapons are in the terawatt range (1,000,000,000,000 watts of power) and could power the the United States for a year with a single shot. It's actually one of the weaker weapons.
As I've said, Metroid tech is on a whole other level from things like Halo (500,000 watts in most weapons), Star Trek (a terawatt can power the Enterprise), and Star Wars. There a guy in Metroid one wields two nuclear reactors on his person at all times, in addition to whatever powers his suit. There's a half-robot dragon who breathes plasma instead of fire (this was before the enhancements, though), and sometimes prefers his missile launcher while he flies around with forcefield wings. Research stations are capable of destroying planets. And Samus is still considered one of the strongest beings there.
However, what piques my interest is the Dark/Light beams and suits. I don't know what makes/generates them, but they sound more magical and less physical in nature, which was why I brought it up earlier.
The basic gist is this: Aether is a rogue planet, meaning it has no sun. There is a mysterious energy source on it known as the Light of Aether, which serves several purposes. One of them is seving as a star and replacing sunlight. The other is keeping the planet itself stable. Without the Light, it would implode. Also on Aether are the Luminoth, psychic moth creatures to whom the Light has great religious significance. They built Energy Controllers to regulate it and prevent it from getting out of hand. It's like holy energy to them.
The Light Beam and Light Suit are made from the Light of Aether, and are especially effective against dark creatures and other such things. The Light Beam also has a missile combo called the Sunburst, which is exactly what it sounds like. A huge bomb of Light, pretty much. The Dark Beam and Dark Suit are the counterparts, and they are formed of the energy from Dark Aether, Aether's alternate dimension. They are effective against Light creatures, which are defined as anything not from Dark Aether. The Dark Beam's missile combo is the Darkburst, which tears open a portal that sucks things in and rips them apart.
The Annihilator Beam is wierd, with multiple properties. It's a matter-antimatter weapon with both a Light and Dark nature, and also has sonic weapon qualities. It also homes in on enemies and is rapid-fire. Its missile combo is the Sonic Boom, which basically fires the sound barrier at things.