Originally posted by -Pr-
except that:J'onn is supposed to have complete molecular control of his body, which he does, rendering the Polaris showing PIS.
Clark no longer has a bio aura.
Its pointless to argue against this since you are discrediting on panel showings (martian manhunter).
Until proven otherwise in a comic, Supes still have that nice bio force field and even if he doesnt, Poloris hit him across the noggin so hard with a sub that it basically took him out of the fight. I'm pretty sure that magneto can replicate that at a much higher level.
Lets not even name what a less powerful poloris did to Supes.
Originally posted by -Pr-
except that:J'onn is supposed to have complete molecular control of his body, which he does, rendering the Polaris showing PIS.
Originally posted by 753
I'm just going by what I read when it's said he can organize his macromolecules into tight bundles to match superman's strengh for a while and that that's how he shapeshifts,. I'll try and find a scan. Notice that this is molecular control, but it's not control over individual atoms or subatmoic control. My point remains that it's plausible for external forces of greater strengh than his shapeshifting to affect his body against his will until he can't hold integrity anymore, so it's not necessarily PIS . Pulling the iron in his blood with magnetic fields is not different, in principle, from pulling his arms off with physical strengh. He has a breaking point.Naturally, people like magneto and dr polaris wouldn't affect the non-metallic materials of his body whith the same ease, they may not be able to rip him apart at all if they go for the non-magnetic tissues.
i honestly disagree. so does the comic at times. i'd honestly like them to clarify it.
Originally posted by carver9
Its pointless to argue against this since you are discrediting on panel showings (martian manhunter).Until proven otherwise in a comic, Supes still have that nice bio force field and even if he doesnt, Poloris hit him across the noggin so hard with a sub that it basically took him out of the fight. I'm pretty sure that magneto can replicate that at a much higher level.
Lets not even name what a less powerful poloris did to Supes.
the irony.
he doesn't have the bio field. period.
magneto isn't polaris. stop trying to use one character's feats for another.
Originally posted by Enyalus
That's a pretty tenuous position to hold. There are plenty of people who supposedly have total control over their molecular structure that have been distorted by others. Is it PIS every single time? Or perhaps it was just that Polaris' metal manipulation abilities outstrip MM's control over his own body.
i'm not saying it's right. i just think it should be clarified as to whether it's one or the other. in j'onn's solo series he has molecular control, even growing new organs (to enable his own telepathy).
but he can't filter the iron out of his blood while fighting doctor polaris?
it has to be one or the other.
Originally posted by manx422yes, he can astrally punch nate in an astral battle but not in the material world where Nate is able to manifest himself outside the astral plane.
MM can
physically going intangible and trying to punch Nate in the material world would have as much effect as everyone else on his team, none. 🙄
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
yes, he can astrally punch nate in an astral battle but not in the material world where Nate is able to manifest himself outside the astral plane.physically going intangible and trying to punch Nate in the material world would have as much effect as everyone else on his team, none. 🙄
if someone goes intangible you can potentially vibrate your own molecules to their frequency.
Originally posted by manx422how?
Superman, Martian Manhunter, WonderWoman win this
i can see the Marvel team winning by pulling their powers and supporting each other...
Magneto often times raises shield domes to protect his acolytes and himself when fighting, traveling or simply standing around and posturing.
I can see nate also helping to reinforce the shields and even storm able to supercharge Magneto with lightning.
aside from that i think nate can attack all of them at once with a mental assault knocking some of them out and leaving the some exploitable.
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