Thanos vs Odin: War

Originally posted by 753
Damn look at the size of that post. I apreciate the energy to debate even the smallest of matters to the ground

But 'I could care less' is used in common american english and is understood by everyone familiar with it, it's just common sense and common knowledge. So its not wrong even if logically flawed, because semantics arent math and meaning can be extracted from the phrase just the same. 'we don't need no education' is a double negative that would make it logically contradict what the phrase really means, but nobody missunderstands it either.

After that, I had no choice but to put him in his place.

Originally posted by KK the Great
I used the phrase correctly and KuRuPT Thanosi ignorantly jumped on me for what he perceived as a mistake on my part.

After that, I had no choice but to put him in his place.

Who is MM fighting in your sig? Is this Wonderman?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Who is MM fighting in your sig? Is this Wonderman?

Yeah.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Nice effort to do a complete topic change, but I was actually commenting on your assessment of the bio, rather than the fight itself.

The fact that you refuse to take into account common sense when assessing the validity of evidence that favors you is evidence of bias.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The fight ended when Odin got bored with beating the crap out of Thanos.

Originally posted by KK the Great
You make it sound as though you believe "Marvel" is a bearded old man sitting on a mountaintop drinking aged brandy and smoking a peace pipe. Marvel is a corporate entity, quanchi. I'm sorry to have broken it to you.

The probability that the issue in question faced a greater level of scrutiny during the writing of some online bio than it has in this thread is less than zero. There's no chance whatsoever that anyone put this much effort into analyzing the scene while compiling a bunch of freaking bios. It is beyond asinine to believe otherwise.

So yes, I put MUCH more stock in my ability to come to a valid interpretation by myself than I do in some worthless bio.

Quite simply, it didn't.

Not unlike countless fights that came before it and countless more that followed.

[b]Once again, a fight not coming to a definitive conclusion does not automatically make it a standoff. [/B]

You want me to ignore the comic and the bio which supports the comic which is another failed attempt by you to formulate a compelling argument.

So now the fight didn't end? Well, color me surprised there mister kk but I thought the fight ended with two characters staring each other down ready to continue it. I guess this is all in our collective imaginations so carry on and continue to make up facts while also making random claims a young kid created this particular bio which again supports the comic and how we saw it end.

Also if it didn't end then this means the fight is still taking place as we speak.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
laughcry

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not at all. I am simply going by what I read in the comic.

So now the fight didn't end? Well, color me surprised there mister kk but I thought the fight ended with two characters staring each other down ready to continue it.

Step two is this: If the two characters were ready to continue, why didn't they continue?

Ask yourself that, answer it with the simple answer provided by the comic, and then type your answer here. Once you do that, I'll explain step three.

I cant remember who already said this,and im too lazy to scan back and find out but, I too would like to see this bio you keep speaking of.

LOL, Thanos apparently is on Odin's level now because his fans want him to be. Awesome.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not at all. I am simply going by what I read in the comic.

I would think it was purposeful if I believed you were capable of the dot connecting required.

Once again, what I was having a good LOL at was your admission that even if your evidence lacked all credibility, you would still hold on to it 'til the bitter end if it supported your case.

What was it you said? Even if a woodland animal authored your evidence, you would still argue for it?

Pretty cut and dry bias there. So glad that you could highlight it yourself.

Originally posted by KK the Great
I don't know that you can say "Odin beat Thanos" and be semantically correct, as it were. The only thing we can say about their fight without upsetting the lesser gods of semantics is that Odin proved far superior to Thanos. And that's the important thing, right?

Originally posted by Mindset
Smurph is a champ.

Originally posted by KK the Great
That is exactly what I'm saying.

Consider the following:

I am capable of caring about any given topic on a scale of 0% to 100%. 0% means I don't care at all, and 100% is absolute devotion.

Let's say you buy a new pair of shoes. You're in love with them and want to show them off to everybody. We run into each other at the porn dungeon, and you immediately launch into a story about your shoes. I can make one of two declarations.

1) I could care less about your shoes.

2) I could not care less about your shoes.

Assume that I care 0% about your shoes. I don't care about them at all, in other words.

QUESTION: Can I care less than 0% about them?

a) Yes, I can care less than 0%.
b) No, I can't care less than 0%.
c) What are you, an idiot? Of course I can't care less than 0%. Didn't you see where I said the scale goes from 0 to 100?

ANSWER: Both b and c are correct, although c is the preferred answer.

Having established that I can not care less than 0%, and I care exactly 0% about your shoes, then it stands to reason that I could not care less about your shoes.

For the record, if I cared, say, 10% about your shoes, then it would be correct to state that I could care less about them. You see, it is possible for me to care less than 10% about them.

With this logic in mind, you can see two things:

1) "I could not care less" inherently means that I care 0%. If I care even 1%, then I could care less and the statement is false.

2) "I could care less" could mean that I care anywhere from 1% to 100%. Such a distinction is practically meaningless.

For completion's sake, "I could not care more" would mean that I care 100%, whereas "I could care more" indicates anything from 0% to 99%.

If you're still not grasping this astonishingly simple concept, I could probably make a flow chart or something.

Originally posted by janus77
kk didn't beat kurupt thanosi, but he did damn well beat kurupt thanosi up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I've always stated Odin was winning but to say Odin won is ignoring the comic and how it ended.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^This post makes no ****ing sense.

If you take into account the fact that Thanos didn't bother using his shielding or advanced energy manipulation, and the fact that he's had one upgrade, possibly two since then...it's not difficult to believe they'd be about equal in power now.

...Until Thanos comes back in a few weeks and Abnett and Lanning make me eat that statement. 😬

If Thanos had so much as scratched Odin in their encounter, I'd be more inclined to think they're equals in power now given Thanos' upgrades. He didn't. He didn't come close to it; hell, the one blast he did try didn't even make Odin grimace IIRC.

Speaking of which, said "upgrades" are, at this point, still unquantifiable. There's really no real gauge as to how strong they've made Thanos outside of a few showings. The ones that do get mentioned--namely blasting Galactus and defeating The Maker--aren't really enough for me to say that Thanos is anywhere near Odin's ballpark of power. Considering that Odin didn't even go all out the first time they fought (and he'd have killed Thanos had they continued despite this), I don't think Thanos would have a chance in hell of surviving a pissed off Odin that's going all out on him. Gonna take more than pissing off Big G and taking down a mentally unstable version of Beyonder (in human form, no less) to change that, IMO.

I don't know what gave the impression that Odin wasn't going all out, or that he wasn't pissed off. Because he certainly was the latter. His son captured. Asgard invaded. Thanos, a well known villain...

The latter wasn't the emphasis, nor was it my intent to claim that he wasn't pissed off. The former's the key givent that he didn't come close to depleting himself in that battle. He pulled out Gungir; OK, that says he took Thanos seriously, but not swing for the fences serious. No Odinsleep, no pulling out all the stops, none of that. Given that we've seen Odin go as far as to die in battle when he's going all out, or go as far as to absorb all of Asgard when going all out, I don't see how anyone can say that Odin wasn't holding back against Thanos.

Ah...well yeah. Like you and me and even Quan have said, he was winning. He didn't need to do that.

So yeah, I guess I agree.

all gugnir does is focus odin's power like a magnifying glass does sunlight. but that begs the question: odin must have noticed his prior blasts were powerless then right?

i think it was so.

^ Yeah, like Odin's blasts are useless against Thor? As in... not? Even though he pulled it out against Thor?

IMO, he pulled out Gungir to end the battle faster. His blast sans Gungir were staggering Thanos, but he clearly underestimated his durability. Thus, out come the spear.

Originally posted by Harbinger
His blast sans Gungir were staggering Thanos, but he clearly underestimated his durability. Thus, out come the spear.

..he even grabbed the thing.

sure odin used it on thor, but he certainly needed to use it on thanos.