Thanos vs Odin: War

Started by the ninjak22 pages

I've only been to this forum for about 3 weeks now. Some of the jargon still escapes me.....TOAA?
Help would be appreciated.
I agree on the whole destiny philosophy and Marvel writers limited plot holes. But the whole Thanos vs Odin battle feels like Thanos as a physical being with free will has potentially in the end more room for growth than Odin, an Omnipotent God who has reached his prime.

The One Above All=TOAA

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
For upping his blasts one level. To teach a lesson, like he tried with Thor and Thanos. But not to a level that is required for when he fights Surtur, the Enchanters, or amped Seth for his life and for Asgard where going all-out is required.

Scans or issue numbers that detail this one level you speak of.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The One Above All=TOAA

Thanks! The Living Tribunal.
Makes the Infinite Gauntlet a much more interesting re-read.
Considering Thanos threatened all of them. Like a spoilt child.
TOAA reminds me of the Architect in the MATRIX....a being that had seen many worlds fall by existing in a multiverse state. And Neo being the one he guided and watched...slowly defying his universes destruction. And Neo being Thanos, being the one, he can stop such inevitable destruction 🙂
Cool just fortifies my belief more that Thanos' potential could one day be above Odin's so to say.....one of true enlightenment!

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hmmm, Thanks for the scan. But wasn't this whole argument based solely on the term "standoff" ? The bio however says "standstill". I'm not as familiar with your language as you are, obviously, but my translator says that those arent synonyms. Might someone enlighten me?

Omega Vision had it right. Standoff implies that a conflict reaches a point where the combatants either cannot hope to defeat one another or it is not advantageous for either to continue. It's a tie, basically.

A third party putting a stop to the fight is not a standoff, quanchi's inane "the characters were both standing" definition of the term notwithstanding.

And you're right that standstill isn't quite identical. Where standoff inherently implies an impasse, standstill can basically just mean that the conflict stops without reaching a definitive conclusion for any reason.

Put it this way: Cars in dead stop traffic are at a standstill, while two cars facing one another and refusing to move are in a standoff.

In other words, the comic doesn't end in a standoff, and the bio does not support such an interpretation.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Thanks! The Living Tribunal.
Makes the Infinite Gauntlet a much more interesting re-read.
Considering Thanos threatened all of them. Like a spoilt child.
TOAA reminds me of the Architect in the MATRIX....a being that had seen many worlds fall by existing in a multiverse state. And Neo being the one he guided and watched...slowly defying his universes destruction. And Neo being Thanos, being the one, he can stop such inevitable destruction 🙂
Cool just fortifies my belief more that Thanos' potential could one day be above Odin's so to say.....one of true enlightenment!

Don't be an idiot

Originally posted by the ninjak
Thanks! The Living Tribunal.
Makes the Infinite Gauntlet a much more interesting re-read.
Considering Thanos threatened all of them. Like a spoilt child.
TOAA reminds me of the Architect in the MATRIX....a being that had seen many worlds fall by existing in a multiverse state. And Neo being the one he guided and watched...slowly defying his universes destruction. And Neo being Thanos, being the one, he can stop such inevitable destruction 🙂
Cool just fortifies my belief more that Thanos' potential could one day be above Odin's so to say.....one of true enlightenment!

That sounds like a very poor man's Neil Gaiman's Lucifer.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That sounds like a very poor man's Neil Gaiman's Lucifer.

eh! don't mind me I'm learning. And very curious and fascinated.
Kids gotta learn somehow.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Don't be an idiot

that's one thing I am not. This is mythology!

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hmmm, Thanks for the scan. But wasn't this whole argument based solely on the term "standoff" ? The bio however says "standstill". I'm not as familiar with your language as you are, obviously, but my translator says that those arent synonyms. Might someone enlighten me?
My stellar MacbookPro informs me:

standoff |ˈstandˌôf; -ˌäf|
noun
a stalemate or deadlock between two equally matched opponents in a dispute or conflict : the 16-day-old standoff was no closer to being resolved.

standstill |ˈstan(d)ˌstil|
noun [in sing. ]
a situation or condition in which there is no movement or activity at all : the traffic came to a standstill.

So, yeah, as has been said previously, the former implies 'equally matched opponents', whereas the latter implies nothing more than a lack of movement.

Quan fails again.

The sad part is that he's guaranteed to stick by his "standoff" position to the bitter end, just because it has become his security blanket in this debate. There is zero chance that the thoughtful explanations we've provided will cause any positive change in the poor kid. He simply isn't interested in bettering himself through education.

Team thanos wins.

Originally posted by KK the Great
The sad part is that he's guaranteed to stick by his "standoff" position to the bitter end, just because it has become his security blanket in this debate. There is zero chance that the thoughtful explanations we've provided will cause any positive change in the poor kid. He simply isn't interested in bettering himself through education.
I'm sure we'll be treated to an argument with the premise that a standoff and a standstill are in fact the same thing, this being a 'fact' that Quanchi will convince himself of absolutely, in sheer spite of all evidence to the contrary. If it weren't a debate setting, he might use what basic reasoning skills he possesses to teach himself the proper definitions, but now that chance is shot, since doing so would implicate his failure.

In effect, through being consistently wrong, I think Quanchi may actually be getting dumber.

Originally posted by KK the Great
The sad part is that he's guaranteed to stick by his "standoff" position to the bitter end, just because it has become his security blanket in this debate. There is zero chance that the thoughtful explanations we've provided will cause any positive change in the poor kid. He simply isn't interested in bettering himself through education.

That's because he is roleplaying I guess!
Just except it and move on.
Odin over present Thanos though he still has a long way to go. 🙂

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Don't be an idiot

I giggled.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I giggled.

That's why I'm here ABClogic and humour 😄

Originally posted by Enyalus
I giggled.

I wonder why?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I wonder why?

I remember when you first posted here. You've come a long ways. *pats* 😄

Originally posted by Enyalus
I remember when you first posted here. You've come a long ways. *pats* 😄
He joined three months before you... mmm

Originally posted by Enyalus
I remember when you first posted here. You've come a long ways. *pats* 😄

I lub you too inlove

Originally posted by Original Smurph
He joined three months before you... mmm

*shrugs* I remember when he first started posting, then. We'd get into disagreements because he was as objective when it came to Superman as Shogo.