Thanos vs Odin: War

Started by Original Smurph22 pages

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I learned using fallacies from Original Smurph. True story...
313

^ Context! durhulk

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already know why they stopped fighting and that's neither here nor there

I can't guide you through to step three of your first logical thought process if you don't first take the step two I outlined for you.

Step two, if you don't remember, is the answer to this question: Why did the fight stop?

This could be a very big day for you if you'll just let me lead you by the hand for a moment.

Originally posted by KK the Great
The sad part is that he's guaranteed to stick by his "standoff" position to the bitter end, just because it has become his security blanket in this debate. There is zero chance that the thoughtful explanations we've provided will cause any positive change in the poor kid. He simply isn't interested in bettering himself through education.

Man, is quanchi predictable or is quanchi predictable?

Originally posted by KK the Great
I can't guide you through to step three of your first logical thought process if you don't first take the step two I outlined for you.

Step two, if you don't remember, is the answer to this question: Why did the fight stop?

This could be a very big day for you if you'll just let me lead you by the hand for a moment.


Ooh, I love these interactive things! I had to backtrack all the way to page 10 to find out that first step.

If Quan doesn't answer, may I? Then you can do step three regardless.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Thanos. Better team and is at least Odin's equal.

Thanos is far from Odin's equal. Hell Thor would give Thanos a good fight and Odin with a gesture can destroy Thor.

IMO Odin solos.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Ooh, I love these interactive things! I had to backtrack all the way to page 10 to find out that first step.

If Quan doesn't answer, may I? Then you can do step three regardless.

He'll never learn that way.

Odg.... if u please some proof the dark power source mentioned by odin is thanos's ship. I have never taken it that way, so i'm curious where that came from

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Odg.... if u please some proof the dark power source mentioned by odin is thanos's ship. I have never taken it that way, so i'm curious where that came from

If not his ship, then what did he mean by "dark power source"?

Originally posted by Silent Master
If not his ship, then what did he mean by "dark power source"?

Why would his ship be dark? Ships are dark and evil? Odin reference him drawing from an almost unlimited power source that rivals even mine.. You think he was talking about a ship? Nah. I believe he was talking about Thanos Eternal powers, which seems more logical to me. Thanos is portrayed as being dark... Thus his power source could be perceived as dark. It's not the PC but yet he can call on the power cosmic. His ship isn't what allows to fire energy blasts, matter manipulate use TP and TK... Those are his Eternal powers. That is his power source. Why on earth would it be a reference to a ship? Furthermore, it could be that since Death upgraded Thanos and his powers.. that could be the "dark" power source the Thanos was referring to. All more logical and reasonable than his ship

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why would his ship be dark? Ships are evil? Odin reference him drawing from an almost unlimited power source that rivals even mine.. You think he was talking about a ship? Nah. I believe he was talking about Thanos Eternal powers, which seems more logical to me. Thanos is portrayed as being dark... Thus his power source could be conceived as dark. It's not the PC but yet he can call on the power cosmic. His ship isn't what allows to fire energy blasts, matter manipulate use TP and TK... Those are his Eternal powers. That is his power source. Why on earth would it be a reference to a ship? Furthermore, it could be that since Death upgraded Thanos and his powers.. that could be the "dark" power source the Thanos was referring to. All more logical and reasonable than his ship

This sounds reasonable. I also doubt that Thanos draws some energy from the Tech in his ship to amp himself. Though I doubt that Odin meant Death as the source, a power source that rivals Odins? Death > Odin.

Originally posted by KK the Great
I can't guide you through to step three of your first logical thought process if you don't first take the step two I outlined for you.

Step two, if you don't remember, is the answer to this question: Why did the fight stop?

This could be a very big day for you if you'll just let me lead you by the hand for a moment.

Again, what lead up to the fight's conclusion is irrelevant in the fact it ended in s standstill.

Originally posted by KK the Great
Man, is quanchi predictable or is quanchi predictable?
Talking to yourself here? Man is kk this desperate?

Why would I avoid the word used to describe this situation marvel uses when it describes how it ends? Why?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ My table is at a standstill right now. Doesn't mean it matched me in a fight. He'd risk his life to test his limits. Which is what he did against Tyrant out of sport.

Thanos was feeling out the ground with his tongue. Had he kept pushing Odin's buttons, Odin would have killed him. Keep in mind also that Thanos ended up being beaten on like ared-headed step-child by a casual Odin who was annoyed that Thanos wouldn't concede his superiority.

What kind of use of the word are you really going for here? 😂

This word applies to this fight and was used to describe how it ended.

He risked his life because the previous challenges weren't challenges at all. He studied Tyrant and the sole purpose was to test his own might against Tyrant's and he left when he felt he tested his might long enough to keep the orb.

So against Odin his goal was completely different that fight sort of happened because of the manner of Thor's captivity along with Thanos' reputation across the universe. He wasn't there to test his might against Odin but didn't back down when the situation presented itself.

You speculate when you say he would have killed him because he was seeking his death already and the fight ended in a standoff.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
According to what definition do both words have "deadlock" in their definition?

Standstill is defined as a simple lack of movement. Nothing more, nothing less. It is a huge leap of logic to assume that it implies a deadlock, and is nothing more than an instance of you attempting to redefine a word to secure your case when the actual definition no longer fits. Otherwise known as a definitional dodge fallacy.

All that I said was that it never concluded... why is that ridiculous, exactly?

Oh, you're attempting to portray what I've written as something else entirely so that you can counter to attempt to gain some sort of ground?

Strawman fallacy, Quan.

Are you serious? How can I trust your opinion when you can't even properly use an internet browser to find a definition online? It comes up on both words with the same exact word being used to define the word. I've always stated you can use whatever word you want to describe how this fight ended.

Look up the word again and see if you find deadlock in it's definition. If you say you can't find it I'll provide a link for you.

Originally posted by Starscream M
that's incorrect usage of the word standstill.
Are you surprised?

In a non PIS fight Odin solos

Originally posted by h1a8
In a non PIS fight Odin solos
How?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, what lead up to the fight's conclusion is irrelevant in the fact it ended in s standstill.

Then who cares? If you've abandoned the incorrect notion that the fight ended in a standoff, then you're effectively conceded the debate.

Ending in a standstill doesn't mean anything other than that they stopped fighting. So great point. You've proven that they stopped fighting. Job well done, champ.

Originally posted by KK the Great
Then who cares? If you've abandoned the incorrect notion that the fight ended in a standoff, then you're effectively conceded the debate.

Ending in a standstill doesn't mean anything other than that they stopped fighting. So great point. You've proven that they stopped fighting. Job well done, champ.

I did no such thing. Odin gave Thanos the option of giving up and Odin himself relented because he was in the wrong in the first place. Yes, the fight ended in a standstill because Odin was told of the madness of Thor. If anything Odin quit the fight.

Still ended in a standstill just like I said it did.

I see you are taking my word sport now, eh?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I did no such thing. Odin gave Thanos the option of giving up and Odin himself relented because he was in the wrong in the first place. Yes, the fight ended in a standstill because Odin was told of the madness of Thor. If anything Odin quit the fight.

Still ended in a standstill just like I said it did.

I see you are taking my word sport now, eh?


Lol. I love how you won't now admit that you thought it ended in a standoff.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I did no such thing.

You kept saying that the fight ended in a standoff. Over and over you said it. You bolstered your confidence in your position by repeatedly citing a bio that used the same word.

Now that it turns out that the bio used "standstill" instead of "standoff," it would appear that you have, in fact, given up your position that the fight ended in a standoff.

And since standoff means something different than standstill, you've fallen cleanly into your usual role as loser of the debate.

Still ended in a standstill just like I said it did.

Oh, you said it ended in a standstill, did you?

Originally posted by quanchi112
It ended in a standoff.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Marvel stated in a bio it ended in a standoff.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You described a stalemate which I think it was anyways but marvel described it as a standoff which we literally see at the end of the fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So basically you don't know what standoff means.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Marvel acknowledges standoff and we see it on panel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It ended in a standoff.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, the fight is immaterial the end result was a standoff.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Secondly, the fight ended in a standoff.

That's just from the first three pages of the thread, and then I got bored.

So tell me again, what was it you said? Did you say the fight ended in a standoff or that it came to a standstill? I forgot already.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lol. I love how you won't now admit that you thought it ended in a standoff.
I did say standoff which is another word you can use just like standstill.
Originally posted by KK the Great
You kept saying that the fight ended in a standoff. Over and over you said it. You bolstered your confidence in your position by repeatedly citing a bio that used the same word.

Now that it turns out that the bio used "standstill" instead of "standoff," it would appear that you have, in fact, given up your position that the fight ended in a standoff.

And since standoff means something different than standstill, you've fallen cleanly into your usual role as loser of the debate.

Oh, you said it ended in a standstill, did you?

That's just from the first three pages of the thread, and then I got bored.

So tell me again, what was it you said? Did you say the fight ended in a standoff or that it came to a standstill? I forgot already.

Both have deadlock in their definition so like I said multiple pages back you can use either word. Try and keep up.

time to end this now: only way team thanos wins is if they allowed a preemptive strike on asgard, a thanosi already proved it. it's almost definite with loki on board.

straight up they get overwhelmed if it's a simple clash with no preparation aside from gathering troops. loki and blackheart would ditch thanos and sentry would go down first trying to bite off more than he can chew. odin unleashing his power while in asgard would be enough to make a large impactm thor, beta ray, and surfer can clean up the rest.