Soul Reaver vs. Master Sword (Actually it's Raziel vs. Link)

Originally posted by Burning thought

🙄 him having their power/some of their power through their fallible and perhaps even ambiguous statements is not the same as having the Sages themselves there, certainly not vice versa. Nothing canon so far shown states that they had the MS either.

He was just conquered as was the greatest power in Hyrule by old men and some knights 😆

PLAY OOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE SAGES WERE THERE WHEN LINK DEFEATED GANON. THEY SPOKE, SHOWED THEIR POWER AND TALKED ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS.

PLAY

THE

DAMNED

GAME.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Why? So you can ignore it? Make no mistake, they did have it, but I honestly don't see a point in going and digging up a video when you'll just ignore it anyway.

This is a good example of ignoring evidence.

That is in Twilight Princess, sir. And his Triforce of Power had activated, they did not expect that.

Edit: God Damn, BT. Play a Zelda game. You just mixed up like four different titles as though the circumstances in every one were the same.

So your not even going to attempt to provide evidence? lol....

nah, its ignoring fanon.

Thats not the point.

The circumstances are similiar. Ganon gets completly wrecked when he has the full power of the Gods and even when he is powerless the Sages somehow fail in conquering him, for all their "uber magic user!" statements from you their attempt was to levitate a sword and impale him with it? 😆

Originally posted by LLLLLink
PLAY OOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE SAGES WERE THERE WHEN LINK DEFEATED GANON. THEY SPOKE, SHOWED THEIR POWER AND TALKED ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS.

PLAY

THE

DAMNED

GAME.

Wipe the froth from your mouth and dab your red angry little face with a damp cold cloth then try and gather your argument, your just making a daft spectacle of yourself. Your also confusing OoT with A link to the past.

Originally posted by Burning thought
nah, its ignoring fanon.

gameplay, lore, facts, feats etc = fanon

WTF?

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Player made nonsense, apparent facts based on opinion and assumptions etc = fanon

WTF?

Nah uh, corrected your little mistake.

The circumstances are similiar. Ganon gets completly wrecked when he has the full power of the Gods and even when he is powerless the Sages somehow fail in conquering him, for all their "uber magic user!" statements from you their attempt was to levitate a sword and impale him with it?

GJ failing.

Ganon in TP didn't have the triforce because that's the child timeline. When he was being executed was the same moment in the adult timeline where his alternate self touched the triforce and received the triforce of power. The sages could NOT have seen it coming, because nothing that happened in their timeline could have hinted that it would happen.

Also, Triforce > time.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Argument from ignorance doesn't emphasis ignorance enough to accoutn for how bad that was...

GJ failing.

Ganon in TP didn't have the triforce because that's the child timeline. When he was being executed was the same moment in the adult timeline where his alternate self touched the triforce and received the triforce of power. The sages could NOT have seen it coming, because nothing that happened in their timeline could have hinted that it would happen.

Also, Triforce > time.

Seems the Triforce is a very limited and weak artifact, a few old men can defeat it and its feat of transforming the Sacred realm to the Dark is simply a larger scale version (arguable, may also be weaker) of what a few Circle mages in LoK did passively to a region.

Congratulations. Even Shiggy is facepalming at you right now.

The sages never overpowered the triforce, and the sages are ridiculously powerful to begin with.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Seems the Triforce is a very limited and weak artifact, a few old men can defeat it and its feat of transforming the Sacred realm to the Dark is simply a larger scale version (arguable, may also be weaker) of what a few Circle mages in LoK did passively to a region.

Ganondorf's servant Zant had merely a fraction of Ganondorf's power and was able to do that to not just a region but the entire land.

Originally posted by Burning thought
So your not even going to attempt to provide evidence? lol....

nah, its ignoring fanon.

Thats not the point.

The circumstances are similiar. Ganon gets completly wrecked when he has the full power of the Gods and even when he is powerless the Sages somehow fail in conquering him, for all their "uber magic user!" statements from you their attempt was to levitate a sword and impale him with it? 😆

Well no, because you'll just ignore it.

Fanon = evidence? Didn't know that. Learned a new word.

Then there was no point.

No, they are not. But if you had played the games you might realize this.

Ganondorf's servant Zant had merely a fraction of Ganondorf's power and was able to do that to not just a region but the entire land.

Ganon with a small amount of his own power destroyed an island. Hm. Weak artifact indeed.

He's talking about the ENTIRE Triforce. And you guys are talking about the Triforce of Power.

Well, I find it awesome that a fraction of the ToP is more powerful than BT's estimations of the whole thing.

Ganondorf with nothing is more powerful than BT's version of Trueforce. He shoots lazorz and overruns kingdoms and doesn't afraid of anything.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ganon with a small amount of his own power destroyed an island. Hm. Weak artifact indeed.

In an unkown way, could have taken him days to do it.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Ganondorf's servant Zant had merely a fraction of Ganondorf's power and was able to do that to not just a region but the entire land.

he simply merged two dimensions, twilight and normal , he did not actually physically transform it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Congratulations. Even Shiggy is facepalming at you right now.

The sages never overpowered the triforce, and the sages are ridiculously powerful to begin with.

lol ridiculously powerful? based on? and how so? Ganon had the full triforce...

Ganon > Doctor Octogonapus

Originally posted by Burning thought

he simply merged two dimensions, twilight and normal , he did not actually physically transform it.

Merging dimensions = simple

"No big deal, Bob. Just merge the dimensions." 😆

In an unkown way, could have taken him days to do it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It could not have. The King of Red Lions tells you it had been fine just before and that Jabun had been there. The island's destruction also coincides with Ganon casting the world into endless night. Yeah. Both at the same time. Without even a single piece of the triforce's full power.

Define "just before that" and this has no indication of its speed, orhow easy it was to do or even whether or not it was a slow little orb.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Merging dimensions = simple

"No big deal, Bob. Just merge the dimensions." 😆

Well theres no gauge on how difficult it was, we only know he could merge the two worlds.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Define "just before that" and this has no indication of its speed, orhow easy it was to do or even whether or not it was a slow little orb.

There's a problem with this post. It is assuming that Ganon's magical attack is weak because it is smaller and slower moving. And because of this fact, it is assuming that Ganondorf is Sephiroth and is toying with his enemy.