Soul Reaver vs. Master Sword (Actually it's Raziel vs. Link)

Started by LLLLLink17 pages
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
There's a problem with this post. It is assuming that Ganon's magical attack is weak because it is smaller and slower moving. And because of this fact, it is assuming that Ganondorf is Sephiroth and is toying with his enemy.

Yeah.
In Bardock: Father of Goku, Frieza shot a tiny beam that was slow moving from space at planet Vegeta. That didn't mean it wasn't going to blow the planet to pieces, though (canon).

There's actually no evidence it's slow, either. It's just an assumption by BT.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
There's a problem with this post. It is assuming that Ganon's magical attack is weak because it is smaller and slower moving. And because of this fact, it is assuming that Ganondorf is Sephiroth and is toying with his enemy.

no your just assuming every magical attack used by Ganon is going to be at the power he used to blow up the island, assuming he can even re-create that attack so easily (also an assumption, we dont even see him do it). its small, slow moving, theres no feat for it at all, your just blindly assuming its close to the power of a magic attack he used in another game because you think it helps your argument 🙄

You're doing the same, but in reverse.

Originally posted by Burning thought
no your just assuming every magical attack used by Ganon is going to be at the power he used to blow up the island, assuming he can even re-create that attack so easily (also an assumption, we dont even see him do it). its small, slow moving, theres no feat for it at all, your just blindly assuming its close to the power of a magic attack he used in another game because you think it helps your argument 🙄

You are merely denying the obvious because you don't want to see the fact that everything about Zelda is > than Soul Reaver.

BT thinks Ganon's magic is LESS powerful when he's not weakened... 😆

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You're doing the same, but in reverse.

I know, hence how I am negating your argument by showing you how claiming random assumptions as feats is wrong.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
You are merely denying the obvious because you don't want to see the fact that everything about Zelda is > than Soul Reaver.

😆

BT, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

No, see, by "in reverse" you are assuming that they aren't feats.

The argument stands, you haven't negated anything. 😆

But it's cute when you think you have something.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
BT, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

As I said, wipe the foam from around your mouth, stop ranting and make a real argument. You have no evidence for most of these powers, your just assuming speeds, power and trying to make fanon into canon, its not happening 😉

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
No, see, by "in reverse" you are assuming that they aren't feats.

The argument stands, you haven't negated anything. 😆

But it's cute when you think you have something.

nah, its dead a long time ago, your just spamming and trolling again. Until you show Ganon destroying the island and we actually see how he does it, your argument is nonexistent. Canon shows us the trueforce is powerless to featless old men who have to levitate swords to execute their opponents lulz.

Originally posted by Burning thought
nah, its dead a long time ago, your just spamming and trolling again. Until you show Ganon destroying the island and we actually see how he does it, your argument is nonexistent. Canon shows us the trueforce is powerless to featless old men who have to levitate swords to execute their opponents lulz.

Because Raziel can have all his feats without them being shown, right? 🙄

Those "featless old men" have more powerful feats of magic than Raziel. 😆

Canon shows us the trueforce is powerless to featless old men who have to levitate swords to execute their opponents lulz.
..We we watching the same cutscene? Ganon broke free and kicked their asses.

Shin, he's trying to argue ALttP. I didn't think it was possible, but he knows even less of ALttP than OoT.

Originally posted by Burning thought
As I said, wipe the foam from around your mouth, stop ranting and make a real argument. You have no evidence for most of these powers, your just assuming speeds, power and trying to make fanon into canon, its not happening 😉

nah, its dead a long time ago, your just spamming and trolling again. Until you show Ganon destroying the island and we actually see how he does it, your argument is nonexistent. Canon shows us the trueforce is powerless to featless old men who have to levitate swords to execute their opponents lulz.

You see, everyone, what's happening right now is that BT doesn't have a way to disprove the feat. So since he has no actual argument, he is trying to cast doubt on the feat itself by claiming that it didn't happen if there is no recording of the event. Unfortunately for him, since there is evidence of an encounter with Ganon's power, the feat stands. Here are the real facts:

1) Ganon destroyed an island.
2) He did it fast enough and powerfully enough that no one was able to stop him.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
..We we watching the same cutscene? Ganon broke free and kicked their asses.

Yeh, he broke free from their feeble attempt, just not when he had full power trueforce. He just ended up sealed.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Because Raziel can have all his feats without them being shown, right? 🙄

Those "featless old men" have more powerful feats of magic than Raziel. 😆

No, he has plenty to show but what Raziel can do is irrelevant atm. My only tactic for him is jumping and slashing while invisible which has been shown.

Raziel could lift a sword without magic, he could do it just with his mind.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
You see, everyone, what's happening right now is that BT doesn't have a way to disprove the feat. So since he has no actual argument, he is trying to cast doubt on the feat itself by claiming that it didn't happen if there is no recording of the event. Unfortunately for him, since there is evidence of an encounter with Ganon's power, the feat stands. Here are the real facts:

1) Ganon destroyed an island.
2) He did it fast enough and powerfully enough that no one was able to stop him.

1) Yeh correctz, with unkown powers, speeds, times etc

2) No one stopped him? how do we even know if they knew about him doing it, if they tried? and whos "no one", the lowly entities that can actually fight him were not there.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Yeh, he broke free from their feeble attempt, just not when he had full power trueforce. He just ended up sealed.

No, he has plenty to show but what Raziel can do is irrelevant atm. My only tactic for him is jumping and slashing while invisible which has been shown.

Raziel could lift a sword without magic, he could do it just with his mind.

1) Yeh correctz, with unkown powers, speeds, times etc

2) No one stopped him? how do we even know if they knew about him doing it, if they tried? and whos "no one", the lowly entities that can actually fight him were not there.

I wasn't able to glean anything that could be considered an argument from your post.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Yeh, he broke free from their feeble attempt, just not when he had full power trueforce. He just ended up sealed.

No, he has plenty to show but what Raziel can do is irrelevant atm. My only tactic for him is jumping and slashing while invisible which has been shown.

Raziel could lift a sword without magic, he could do it just with his mind.

You're still pretending to know things about Zelda.

I don't even believe Raziel can jump as high as he'd need to be to get over the sword on a spin. But now you're still thinking that Raziel can dodge the Spin Attack. 🙄

Impressive? 😆

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You're still pretending to know things about Zelda.

I don't even believe Raziel can jump as high as he'd need to be to get over the sword on a spin. But now you're still thinking that Raziel can dodge the Spin Attack. 🙄

Impressive? 😆

not really, I do know things when I can get them from youtube vids and Zeldapedia. I can trust them more than your fanon.

He does not need to dodge it when he can just avoid it, I doubt their starting at sword distance fomr eachother.

its just the same thing all the sages did to Ganon when they were to execute him.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
I wasn't able to glean anything that could be considered an argument from your post.

I asked some pretty specific questions lol....

Originally posted by Burning thought
not really, I do know things when I can get them from youtube vids and Zeldapedia. I can trust them more than your fanon.

He does not need to dodge it when he can just avoid it, I doubt their starting at sword distance fomr eachother.

its just the same thing all the sages did to Ganon when they were to execute him.

I lack fanon.

And if they were? NemeSis' threads suck. So oh well. Say they aren't sword distance, there isn't anything stopping Link from hitting Raz when he gets close. And from a range his spells are useless. But that's only in my fanon, right? 🙄

The Sages in TP were the only ones who ever tried to execute him. 😆 So much for your knowledge.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I lack fanon.

And if they were? NemeSis' threads suck. So oh well. Say they aren't sword distance, there isn't anything stopping Link from hitting Raz when he gets close. And from a range his spells are useless. But that's only in my fanon, right? 🙄

The Sages in TP were the only ones who ever tried to execute him. 😆 So much for your knowledge.

Fanon is the only thing you seem to have actually....

If they were then in a few jumps Raziel could make great distance between them both, and his thread only sucks because Raziel is not truly defeatable here. Yeh, thats fanon because his spells are fine.

What are you talking about? I just pointed out Raziel did the same as the Sages, only Raziel does not even have to use magic for it.....and their attempt was truly poor, if their supposed to powerful magically they would have done more than that. Do they even have feats?