Knives vs. Orochimaru

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Knives vs. Orochimaru

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Now I chose Knives over Vash for this fight for a couple reasons.
1. He won't hesitate to kill
2. He showed he could do some weird blackhole thing.
Skip to about L30 and on in this vid
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Knives...the battle at the end of the anime proves it all.

Yeah, pretty much. The Angel Arms destructive capacity and the black hole is beyond Naruto level.

I think Orochimaru could win, but definitely not taking the Angel Arms or anything. Using genjutsu and rapid attack to make sure he doesn't, rather. Angel Arms takes time to charge.

It's not like Knives'd be happy if he got impaled with Orochi's sword, or crushed by the Eight Branches technique.

Manga Knives can create black holes, do orbital bombardment, and has crazy regeneration. He easily solos Narutoverse

This is not manga Knives though.

The simplest plan for Orochimaru against anime Knives is 8-branch then run him over. Too big to dodge out of the way even with Knives' speed, too tough for bullets to do squat, not giving him enough times for an Angel Arm.

Originally posted by Q99
The simplest plan for Orochimaru against anime Knives is 8-branch then run him over. Too big to dodge out of the way even with Knives' speed, too tough for bullets to do squat, not giving him enough times for an Angel Arm.

And he is supposed to do this before Knives shoots him in the face?

Regular bullets won't do anything to Oro...

Originally posted by King Kandy
Regular bullets won't do anything to Oro...

And you arrive at this conclusion how? He's never shrugged off bullets. In fact Kishimoto says that guns would be too powerful for Narutoverse. Considering shuriken and such are still a threat....

Originally posted by Endless Mike
And you arrive at this conclusion how? He's never shrugged off bullets. In fact Kishimoto says that guns would be too powerful for Narutoverse. Considering shuriken and such are still a threat....
😬 All he's said is they aren't suited for a ninja. Just like he won't use planes or cars. The only thing he said is to powerful are nukes.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
And you arrive at this conclusion how? He's never shrugged off bullets. In fact Kishimoto says that guns would be too powerful for Narutoverse. Considering shuriken and such are still a threat....

Because he got run through with a sword nearly as big as he was, and said it was just a scratch. So that kind of physical damage won't hurt him. I mean look at this, he's almost sliced in two down the middle and he's just chatting it up if not for being sealed.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/392/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/392/16/

Bullets=4 Tails Condensed Chakra Ball?? Really???

Oro stumps this boy with a speedblitz.

He summoned those gates to block that, and he did a clone technique to get through the sword. Furthermore even anime Vash was easily hypersonic.

Orochimaru would solo Trigun Universe. Its called Manda. Get to know him.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
He summoned those gates to block that, and he did a clone technique to get through the sword. Furthermore even anime Vash was easily hypersonic.

In no way was it ever stated that he used a clone with the sword of totsuka. In fact, the fact that the sword still sealed him is proof that he wasn't using one. The fact is that kind of physical damage won't kill him (which makes sense since his body is really a hive-mind of white snakes).

Endless Mike
And you arrive at this conclusion how? He's never shrugged off bullets. In fact Kishimoto says that guns would be too powerful for Narutoverse. Considering shuriken and such are still a threat....

Something I'll note- a normal human would pretty much never be able to hit a ninja in combat, they simply don't have the aim speed to hit ninja speed. But put a gun in the hands of another ninja, who's fast enough to track and hit, and they'd be able to kill ninja a rank or two above them pretty solidly.

That's also against ninja-with-vaguely-normal-biology. Plenty of ninja do have defenses that'd work against bullets, Orochimaru and most S-class nin included.

Also I'll note- 90% of the time shuriken are just distractions, unless used in absurd number (like with Sasuke and Itachi threw a few hundred at each other from close range) or against weak foes or have something else going for them like poisons. Plus, keep in mind, they're thrown with super strength and chakra. Asuma can cut through *bolders* with his.

So guns? Big threat to normal means, any village would gain a massive advantage from having them, but not an auto-win by any means, and S-class ninja are threats to small countries to begin with.

You think Knives is a human? What series are you reading/watching?

Vash was easily flicking small pebbles to intercept bullets in a gunfight between others to make the wounds non-lethal and he did this casually.

Oh no, I'm not saying Knives is normal human, not even remotely close to it. Just making a general comment on guns and ninja.

Orochimaru'd be able to fight Knives due to the fact he's one of the ninja who won't care a ton about bullets, not that he won't be hit by them.