Knives vs. Orochimaru

Even though Knives/Vash have good perception, that still doesn't mean they will be able to tell the difference between Orochimaru's clones, since, they are clone exactly like the user. Another thing is Knives is going to have to deal with several attacks coming his way, against a character very quick and not stationary.

Take a look at this fight, Sasuke has very good perception, not even skilled ninja's are able to sneak up on him and this was without the use of his sharingan. Sasuke using his sharingan was still tricked by a substitute from Orichimaru. Orichimaru is very fast and if Knives lose sight of him for even a sec Orichimaru will have that clone already set. He could go under ground to set up the jutsu, Knives wouldn't know the difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V06qbzDpeEU

He could also do all of that while summoning. And the summon snake isn't dumb and is quick that Knives won't be able to dodge it.

Anime is non canon, post manga scans or GTFO

You're a great example of what I'm talking about, people who take vs threads to personal so they start to insult people. You have no right to demand someone to post the manga instead the anime, especially when the thread starter post the anime instead of the manga. You just disrespected everyone using the anime as reference. You need to calm down.

I never insulted anyone, I was just being very forthright.

Originally posted by Q99
Perception, yes, but one problem he'll face will be actual physical speed needed to avoid some of the attacks.

See the above dude's post. Speed is on a whole other level. In Naruto, we see them almost flash step. In Trigun, you don't even see them move.

Originally posted by Q99
But, at least in the anime version, only with big charge attacks he shouldn't have a chance to get off.

He'll have more than enough time to get it off. Watch the portion in the anime where Knives snaps his fingers: Vash's arm very rapidly turns into that gun thing and Vash Barely stops it from going off...because it was starting up so fast.

Originally posted by dvampire
You're a great example of what I'm talking about, people who take vs threads to personal so they start to insult people. You have no right to demand someone to post the manga instead the anime, especially when the thread starter post the anime instead of the manga. You just disrespected everyone using the anime as reference. You need to calm down.

LOL! He was more joking than serious, dude. However, that's very respectable of you to call someone out if they were being a douche.

Obviously, this is the anime and manga versus forum: the thread starter obviously use the Anime in the OP, so it's allowed in this thread.

A word of caution: if the manga contradicts the Anime, the manga is the more correct one and supercedes what is seen in the anime.

Also, I haven't read all of Trigun Maximum, so it'll be awhile before am have teh knowledgez!

Isn't Trigun Maximum totally different from the anime?

Originally posted by No End N Site
Isn't Trigun Maximum totally different from the anime?

lol

No, some of the anime COMES from Trigun Maximum.

http://manga.animea.net/trigun-maximum