Originally posted by Pyron_KnightVash lost his arm before the series began. Iirc it was taken off by Knives during the time Knives forces him to destroy that city with his Angel Arm. Least in the anime.
I think so but wasn't it by giving Legato Vash's arm or something?
The anime definitely didn't explain that one well...or at all. I don't remember Vash ever losing an arm.
Maybe it comes from the interaction of plant and human biologies (the arm providing the power, but Legato's mind providing the ability). Legato wasn't the only gung-ho gun with psychic powers, like the Cyclops's eye.
Maybe it's something Knives could give to himself... if he had surgery, which he wouldn't trust anyone to do.
Hard to say, but Knives never shows it himself.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
You think Knives is a human? What series are you reading/watching?Vash was easily flicking small pebbles to intercept bullets in a gunfight between others to make the wounds non-lethal and he did this casually.
Yeah, this.
It was so fast that you couldn't tell what happened until Woflwood said something about it. He threw a rock so fast that it should have caused a sonic boom...but that was just poor writing.
Still, he did that with his eyes closed. That puts his perception of the environment around him leagues beyond what any ninja has shown.
There's also the part where he was firing his gun so fast that it sounded like one shot, but it was two shots fired so close together that it sounds like one.
Orochimaru is faster than Knives and have a few ways to close the distance by creating shadow clones, charging at him or hiding himself underground (I think this will prove to be very effective against Knives Angel arm blast since he was able to avoid NT4 chakra blast). No matter how skilled knives is with his gun, he's limited by only a few rounds, and could run out mid battle.
Orochimaru summoned thousands (it seemed like that many) of snakes from his mouth ready to pierce KT4 Naruto with swords from their mouth, until KT4 destroyed them with a chakra blast. Knives won't come close to taking out all those snakes before being killed unless he uses his Angel Arm, but he'll lose Orochimaru as his target and end up being taking by surprise. And Orochimaru can still summon and has shown the ability to regenerate half his body being cut in half. Orochimaru have too many advantages so I give it to him.
Originally posted by Spidervlad
So shadow clones give off the same smell, air resistance, and sound as the user? And they also have the same mass?
Yes, yes, and yes.
Kiba's enhanced nose couldn't tell the difference, and they're physical which covers the other three.
They'd be poor dopplegangers if they weighed a lot less.
About the arm thing you guys were talking about:
Legato got Vash's powers, just a little, but getting Vash's arm that Knives shot of in July City.
In the manga, Legato gets his powers by threading this electrical wire shit into his brain and the Skull on his shoulder houses it. Legato can control people by sticking those microscopic wires into people and controlling their brains with his own. Knives can control an entire town just with this really tiny wires.
And, no, there's no comparison between the speed in Trigun and the speed in Naruto...as far as perception goes.
That, and in Trigun, the destruction capability is on a whole other level.
Is the manga or anime Knives?
And the Angel Arm (I'm going by the anime, not manga) may be more destructive (it put a crater in the moon), but I doubt it will help Knives in a fight with Orochimaru, since he will have to create some crazy distance if he plans to fire off a blast that large without getting caught in the blast himself.
Some videos showing Vash's perception. I am concluding that Vash's abilities = Knive's abilities, although Knives is supposedly even more powerful.
Look at how he finds Caine here, without even knowing that somebody is aiming at him or going to shoot him. Basically, he began calculating the time when the shot was fired and when it hit exactly the millisecond when he heard the shot. At the same time, in seconds, he calculated the angle of the impact and a few seconds later he was already next to Caine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtvVuC0c5EY&feature=related
Then, on this video, skip to 5:45. He was able to move so fast to unbutton Dominique's shirt, that he couldn't be seen. Also, when the Demon's Eye was still affecting him and paralyzing all his senses, he still dodged the shots. That's incredible! He basically had less than a millisecond to react as she 'teleported behind him' and her location became known to him. The fact that he even knew she was behind him should also be amazing.
Originally posted by dadudemon
And, no, there's no comparison between the speed in Trigun and the speed in Naruto...as far as perception goes.
Perception, yes, but one problem he'll face will be actual physical speed needed to avoid some of the attacks.
That, and in Trigun, the destruction capability is on a whole other level.
But, at least in the anime version, only with big charge attacks he shouldn't have a chance to get off.