Darkseid VS Thor

Originally posted by cdtm
Using head to head becomes problematic, when there's ample examples outside of the head to head that prove, for example, that heat vision shouldn't really block the Omega Effect.

And especially if the head to head includes a character that's been progressively watered down over the years, even as his competition was amped up (Not to mention the mental block business... Although, if you subscribe to Loebs mental block excuse, what does that say about Supermans minus the blocks vs guys like Captain Marvel, who he's always been nearly par with..?)

There's a reason why people refer to Darkseid of the last decade or so as "Jobberseid"...

Except head to head are the best examples. Especially in a case like this where Superman's been kicking Darkseid's ass for some time. How many times has he used Heat Vision to block the Omega Effect/Beams? Twice or three times? I don't keep track anymore.

Hence why you have scenes such as when an Eclipso possessed Superman was taking it to Captain Marvel.

Captain Marvel and Superman being peers in strength is something that's set pretty solidly in DC history. However, Superman has looked a bit superior to him in fights where he has been possessed.

Darkseid sucks. I know. No need to try and convince me.

Anyways, Thor tanks the Omega Beams/Effect and beats that ass.

We will continue this tomorrow.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Captain Marvel and Superman being peers in strength is something that's set pretty solidly in DC history. However, Superman has looked a bit superior to him in fights where he has been possessed.

Only Captain Marvel > Superman. uhuh

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The first case was awful PIS, in the second Darkseid was dominating the fight until the fight passed close to the sun and Superman got a sun amp.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Pretty sure it was #49. You can double check if you want. I don't really care enough to.

I heard there was a brief encounter between Thor and Darkseid in a crossover.

Is this true?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I heard there was a brief encounter between Thor and Darkseid in a crossover.

Is this true?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
*Defeated him with a casual handblast in their first meeting
*Bitchslapped him and forced Supes to retreat in their first chronological meeting
*Defeated him in several blows in OWAW
*Swatted him away in Cosmic Odyssey as if Superman was an annoying pest
*blasted him with a less than full power OE, sending Superman flying at such speed that it took a GL construct and Plastic-Man to slow him down
*Was owning Superman in Superman Confidential with the OE until Infinity Man showed up
*Brought Superman to his knees in the Si'ivaa story with the OE
That's just post crisis and excluding times when DS had amps.

There are also cases of him defeating Superman level beings but you only asked for him defeating Superman.

And cases of him defeating beings a good deal above Superman. Agogg was a powerhouse who Orion and Lightray got solidly owned by, and Darkseid casually wipes him out..

There's also that time Supes got possessed by Dominus, and started fighting the entire JLA. He pretty much owned every character he came across, with the notable exception of Orion, who held his own. Darkseid is greater than or equal to Orion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were numbered in reverse.

...Okay.

Hmmmm.... God that can create life from nothing or god that can shoot lazorz?

I think I'm going with DS.

DS

Thor is the icing on the cake against Darkseid. Thor is BUILT to beat someone like Darkseid. Darkseid energy attacks would fail against Thor since it is pretty obvious that it will be absorbed. With that said, when Darkseid eyeblast doesnt work, he tend to go H2H with his opponents and I just cant see Darky prevailing against a Thor that is using that hammer to crush his face.

i gatta say darkseid on this one.

Thor pounds DS's eyes out and makes him squeel like a piggy. 😄

DS wins this one handily. High level TP to bog Thor's mind down, He de powers Thor by asborbing the Godly energies of Thor and then turns him into a kid. Or he sends Thor to the end of time where nothing but Entropy exist. Can't block the finders.

Thor just killed Void....he wins.

Originally posted by Estacado
Thor just killed Void....he wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor is the icing on the cake against Darkseid. Thor is BUILT to beat someone like Darkseid. Darkseid energy attacks would fail against Thor since it is pretty obvious that it will be absorbed. With that said, when Darkseid eyeblast doesnt work, he tend to go H2H with his opponents and I just cant see Darky prevailing against a Thor that is using that hammer to crush his face.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
DS wins this one handily. High level TP to bog Thor's mind down, He de powers Thor by asborbing the Godly energies of Thor and then turns him into a kid. Or he sends Thor to the end of time where nothing but Entropy exist. Can't block the finders.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has Darkseid depowered anyone he didn't give their powers too?

Time Trapper, Mordru, Firestorm, Infinity Man,Secret, all come to mind.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Time Trapper, Mordru, Firestorm, Infinity Man,Secret, all come to mind.

He also pulled the professor out of firestorm iirc.

Infinity Man, when?

Darkseid takes this easily

Darkseid>Thanos>Surfer>Thor=Superman.