why do they hate us? muslim hostility for america and its reasons

Originally posted by SamZED
And what exactly do you mean by "our jobs" and "our country"? What differs you from them?

Do you get what I (not an American) am "saying"?

could also be crappy military personnel who are pricks and dont try to win hearts and minds example:

i had this Nco who in his 1st tour of iraq when the country fell was purposely hitting kids with candy sling shots while in the back of a vehicle... purposely tossing cans and MRE's near and on the road hoping they get hit or ran over which some children do..

handing the starving Iraqi MRE's with pork on it telling them it is chicken for SH#@s and giggles...

this guy was complete garbage he was not what an Nco should be he walked around telling all the junior marines all the F@#@ed up things he did to ppl in iraq for no reason then to be just a prick..

he had no respect referred to them all as nothing more the rag heads, sand *******, dirty arabs etc etc.. i was one of the few ppl as a lowly PFC who told him i did not appreciate his attitude nor did i like him using such language that i found it offensive...

he would mouth off and tell me i was a boot and my views would change when i got there... i told him they would not...

when i 1st got there i was suspicious about everyone and i was very dominant in my attitude and response toward the middle eastern ppl but i did not view them as lowly sub human ppl nor call them derogatory names just b/c they didnt understand me..

i always remained professional when dealing with them... i wont lie there were at least two times when i lost my temper and wanted to kill them and burn down a village but that was b/c i lost my friend to insurgents but i would never act out on those impulses and it was nothing more then a momentary loss of control that i immediately checked back in place....

i felt so guilty once when i caught a middle eastern man dumpster diving inside a base.. i was patrolling alone and i had him get down on the ground...

the man was crying telling me he was getting things that the military men leave behind for his family back home toys, clothes.. he showed them to me and tried to approach.. i yelled at him told him get on the ground now!! i pulled the charging handle to intimidate him..

Got on the radio called it in... my SSgt on duty said i did a good job.. i told him i know he was just rummaging...

he responded F@#$ that m#$#@#@ker, he knew better f@#$'in rag head...

i felt sad for the guy knowing he would be interrogated and if lucky only fired from the base and send back to his country of origin..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
could also be crappy military personnel who are pricks and dont try to win hearts and minds example:

i had this Nco who in his 1st tour of iraq when the country fell was purposely hitting kids with candy sling shots while in the back of a vehicle... purposely tossing cans and MRE's near and on the road hoping they get hit or ran over which some children do..

handing the starving Iraqi MRE's with pork on it telling them it is chicken for SH#@s and giggles...

this guy was complete garbage he was not what an Nco should be he walked around telling all the junior marines all the F@#@ed up things he did to ppl in iraq for no reason then to be just a prick..

he had no respect referred to them all as nothing more the rag heads, sand *******, dirty arabs etc etc.. i was one of the few ppl as a lowly PFC who told him i did not appreciate his attitude nor did i like him using such language that i found it offensive...

he would mouth off and tell me i was a boot and my views would change when i got there... i told him they would not...

when i 1st got there i was suspicious about everyone and i was very dominant in my attitude and response toward the middle eastern ppl but i did not view them as lowly sub human ppl nor call them derogatory names just b/c they didnt understand me..

i always remained professional when dealing with them... i wont lie there were at least two times when i lost my temper and wanted to kill them and burn the down a village but that was b/c i lost my friend to insurgents but i would never act out on those impulses and it was nothing more then a momentary loss of control that i immediately checked back in place....

i felt so guilty once when i caught a middle eastern man dumpster diving inside a base.. i was patrolling alone and i had him get down on the ground...

the man was crying telling me he was getting things that the military men leave behind for his family back home toys, clothes.. he showed them to me and tried to approach.. i yelled at him told get on the ground now!! i pulled the charging handle to intimidate him..

Got on the radio called it in... my SSgt on duty said i did a good job.. i told him i know he was just rummaging...

he responded F@#$ that m#$#@#@ker, he knew better f@#$'in rag head...

i felt sad for the guy knowing he would be interrogated and if lucky only fired from the base and said back to his country of origin..

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Speak up!

There's not much he can say to his commanders who resort to their bigoted and racist ways. Of course, they will never admit that they are racist and bigoted, but that goes without saying.

I'll feel for the Iraqis, Afghanis, and American military troops wary of fighting a whole group of people that they don't know very well. None of these three groups wants the Taliban to take over direct control of Kabul again, and neither do they want gungho American Terminators slaughtering and belittling people.

Yet... the kindhearted are in a very tough spot.

i did speak up, the 1st time and the second time i ran into him in iraq..

the 1st time i did what any good marine does i asked him politely and respectfully to refrain from talking to me or such things in such a manner around me.

1st you inform the marine if the situation if it continues you take it further up the chain of command it is preferred that situation get handled at its lowest lvl 1st..

second i cant prove if his story is true or false i wasnt there it is hear say..i can be demoted by accusing an nco of such things without evidence or witnesses...

3rd i informed my gunny of his behavior and i was chewed out and threaten to have my rank and charges brought up for supposedly making false accusation..

i had a real crappy section personnel in my 1st duty section/command...

4th i ran into the Dipsh#$@ a yr or so later got into it with him while we were getting our new orders for iraq.. he got chewed out by a Ssgt behind him who over heard his behavior/comments and threatening my life and career saying i was his when we got to iraq that he hadnt forgotten me...

i laughed b/c i was no longer respected him and i knew my Ssgt was overhearing him and my ssgt who i had bn serving under knew me personally and was also going to be my Ssgt in iraq and the cpl fell beneath him...so he only was screwing himself..my SSgt ended taking his name and company/section reporting him and his behavoir.

5th when we got to iraq and ppl were being broken up sent to other units and my ssgt was sent to another unit leaving me behind i was stuck with the turd Cpl as my senior Nco...

me and him budded heads he tried to f@#@ me over every chance he got, i had to be the perfect marine in everything i did.. i also wasnt taking it lying down i would correct him every chance i got in a respectful tactful manner trying to get him screwing up.. which i eventually did got him investigated, demoted sent back to the states separated from his parent command b/c they had bn covering his f#$# ups for so long..

he was put on probation and he finally had enough and committed suicide...

Holy crap, Wild Shadow, that's more drama than General Hospital.

Hey, at least you got him out of your life, but man.... his poor family.

Originally posted by Moscow
Holy crap, Wild Shadow, that's more drama than General Hospital.

Hey, at least you got him out of your life, but man.... his poor family.

the only thing i knew about his family was he had a daughter of about 5 yrs old with his Ex wife who hated him...

i didnt know anything about his father and mother i would imagine they would be emotionally effected... but this guy was F@#@ in the head prior to join he should never had bn a marine and if his command hadnt covered up all his Alcohol and physical related issues and problems he would have gotten the help he needed long before he committed suicide..

i tell you guys my life is full of stories that would be perfect for a south park type cartoon show.. or i could make a better marine movie the jarhead...

Even better than Jake Gyllenhall's character in that movie?

yes, even better. my military career was kinda sorta boring but i had a Sh## load of stories as well.. remember the SH#@ burning latrine duty?

i had to do dump site duty.. a burning pile of garbage with dangerous fumes... had to drop off garbage from the base and break things up and spread it out so the fire could spread to it. keep an eye out make sure there wasnt a flash fire where i would get burned and have to climb out from a rope on the side of a sand wall...

all b/c i refused to pick up some Gunny's laundry and bring him water to his room every morning for a week when i was on night duty...

it was a violation of the USMC reqs "personal servitude"...

hell my stories pick up even after getting back to the states finding out some of my friends died overseas, friend's wives committing adultery.. a good SSgt snapping and stabbing the dude in his @$$ while on his wife sent to the briq.. another of my friends not being able to deal with his issues and having a stand off with the cops and running a police line...shot up repeatedly.

realizing the new marines to replace us old ones who are getting out were all F@##@ing one another regardless of rank and thinking its nothing.. completely losing my faith in the service and its ppl.. developing a drinking issue.. finishing a fight with a guy who started a fight with me 3 yrs earlier... beating the snot out of a sh#@bird Nco who was f@##@ his PfC and having an affair.....

knocking out two other sh%^ bird marines in the same night who were trying to cover up their nco and the PFC affair...

protecting a brand new lcpl who was beaten up and left for dead in the middle of the road by his own Cpl's and sgt.. he was too afraid to name names of the ppl who did that to him.. he was being charged by his command after he got out of the hospital with public intoxication, belligerent.. etc etc.. and he stood their knowing his command were the ones who did that to him.. i talked to him had him man up walked him to legal to press charges and got my Officers who were not corrupt arrest them and his command ppl who knew aboutwhat had happened and were charged as well..

all b/c he was from chicago and had a regional dialect which his Nco's who were southern considered to be n@gger talk..

Hmmmm....

This movie would be NC-17 rated but a true picture of real grit that goes on in the beleaguered sands of Baghdad, Mosul, Tikrit, Kabul, Kandahar and Marja. Just to name a few of course.

I've heard about those open-pit incinerators. Pentagon was supposed to bar them because of all the cancer and medical crises being reported in returning vets. They had this shit problem during the Gulf War (as well as Depleted Uranium problems). Of course the Pentagon was also going to fix up Bagram's electrifying showers as well.

For a slice of humor, in this movie would be firing your rifle straight into the air like those marines did after their commander gave them the victory call?

yeah... we werent suppose to have those sites it was a base hazmat violation.. but no one willing to enforce it...

there is no victory call the war never ended... 😬

but my closing scene would be me inside an office having a conversation with my chain of command, chaplin and my recent behavior and me reporting all that i had witness willing to go to the brig get a dishonorable discharge just to make every crappy marine go with me and them never allowed to ever wear that uniform again...

just to watch them pat me on the back and tell me no.. they would not bring charges on me or any other marine they wanted me to leave with a spotless record and by default allowing certain sh@# bird marines get away with what they had done but that they would be watched closely...

me on a desk doing paper work as an Nco no longer a pfc stamping and signing papers and my last act as a marine on my final day is picking up the phone and calling the base commander with my note books dates and names...

These are good stories. I could read them all day. If it's no trouble, WS, improve the writing quality (commas, capital letters, etc.)

Originally posted by dadudemon
These are good stories. I could read them all day. If it's no trouble, WS, improve the writing quality (commas, capital letters, etc.)

here is a funny one.

my 1st or second week in my new company right out of MOS school i was sent to be area guard.

i was transferred to a new company and given a new job, i was a PFC i had no friends or respect. they(higher ups) were bouncing me like a ping pong ball, i showed up to this building walked in reported:

Me: PFC -_-_-_- reported for area guard duty!!( i was at attention).

this young looking guy no blouse(coat with rank) walks up to me snatches my orders out of my hand and yells at me...

we dont need anymore PFCs(plural)!!!! we need NCOs!! go back to your company and have them sent us a Cpl or Sgt!!

i ran back b/c i was new and didnt know how to lolly gag(procrastinate).

i showed up to my Company office and i reported in.

Me: Pfc -_-_-_- request permission to speak to Sgt so and so...

My old sgt: Speak marine.

ME: i was sent back and informed i was not wanted and was told to inform my command that they require an Nco!!

Sgt: well Tough F#@$4'in luck they got you and they aint getting no one else... now leave you aint my problem anymore and take your orders!!!

so i ran back to this new command building and did it all over again, i got yelled at cursed and was asked if being a Pfc sucked, and how long had i bn in the marines?

i answered that yes being a Pfc sucks and i had bn in for only 5 months, everyone their laughed at me i felt very uncomfortable...

i was told to sit down inside the back room which was a rec room/eating area. i did as i was told i sat down and the marine who wasnt wearing a blouse handed me some forms to fill out and a military police guide and regulation pamphlet to study. i was told i would need to read and memorize it and i would be given a written test in a few hours for my new military security post for my military area...

i sat down filled out the paper work and studied the pamphlet after a while i started getting sore, tired and bored... the whole time the marines were playing pool so i would look up and want to play but i didnt say anything.

after about 3 hours of me studying the chow hall horn was played, i asked if i could get some chow, they said yes but come back as quickly as possible. it took me about a half hour just to get my lunch from the line so as soon as i got it i turned around ran back to the building and sat down. i started to eat my lunch while i was watching the marines play pool, i finally asked if i could play a game since it was during lunch time no harm no foul.

the marine who hadnt bn wearing a blouse who looked about 19 or 20 got in my face and started yelling at me telling me to sit my @$$ down shut up and study for my damn test and started going off on me about the nerve of a pfc... well i had fianlly had it with his attitude and him getting in my face like that and yelling at me for no reason.

i walked right toward him while he was yelling at me physically dominating him and told him: who the F##@ you think your talking to like that motherf#$#$er?! i may be a Pfc but i am a goddamn man 1st and i will respond like one. you want to order me around as a marine b/c of my rank fine but you do it with professionalism and respect to me as a marine and as a man!!

f#$@#in little snot nose punk kid... i am a grown @$$ man what the f#$$ are you like 19, 20? talking to me like that.

i had ran him into the pool table had him leaning back on it and scared everyone looked at us and no one said anything.. the cpl who had bn playing with him on the pool table game running telling us to break it up.. he took me to a corner and said to calm down.

he told me the way he responded to me was wrong but i should have not responded to him in the same manner... i was like i have bn behaving handling his abuse for a few hours now since i got here... he said he knows and he will talk to him about it..

the guy stormed out of the room like no tomorrow and game back and had put his blouse on which had him ranked as a sgt. i looked at it and automatically thought F#$@ i am screwed i f#$# up... he was angry wanted to charge me but he wasnt looking at me or raising his voice b.c i had scared him, he was talking to his cpl..

the cpl told him he should not have bn walking around without his blouse and that he would not back him up in his report if he filed one...

anyways that sgt was in charge of me for about two weeks b4 he finally got his Nco replacement.. true story..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
fine, just for you i will clean it up an do my best to punctuate and spell properly... 😒

here is a funny one.

my 1st or second week in my new company right out of MOS school i was sent to be area guard.

i was transferred to a new company and given a new job, i was a PFC i had no friends or respect. they(higher ups) were bouncing me like a ping pong ball, i showed up to this building walked in reported:

Me: PFC -_-_-_- reported for area guard duty!!( i was at attention).

this young looking guy no blouse(coat with rank) walks up to me snatches my orders out of my hand and yells at me...

we dont need anymore PFCs(plural)!!!! we need NCOs!! go back to your company and have them sent us a Cpl or Sgt!!

i ran back b/c i was new and didnt know how to lolly gag(procrastinate).

i showed up to my Company office and i reported in.

Me: Pfc -_-_-_- request permission to speak to Sgt so and so...

My old sgt: Speak marine.

ME: i was sent back and informed i was not wanted and was told to inform my command that they require an Nco!!

Sgt: well Tough F#@$4'in luck they got you and they aint getting no one else... now leave you aint my problem anymore and take your orders!!!

so i ran back to this new command building and did it all over again, i got yelled at cursed and was asked if being a Pfc sucked, and how long had i bn in the marines?

i answered that yes being a Pfc sucks and i had bn in for only 5 months, everyone their laughed at me i felt very uncomfortable...

i was told to sit down inside the back room which was a rec room/eating area. i did as i was told i sat down and the marine who wasnt wearing a blouse handed me some forms to fill out and a military police guide and regulation pamphlet to study. i was told i would need to read and memorize it and i would be given a written test in a few hours for my new military security post for my military area...

i sat down filled out the paper work and studied the pamphlet after a while i started getting sore, tired and bored... the whole time the marines were playing pool so i would look up and want to play but i didnt say anything.

after about 3 hours of me studying the chow hall horn was played, i asked if i could get some chow, they said yes but come back as quickly as possible. it took me about a half hour just to get my lunch from the line so as soon as i got it i turned around ran back to the building and sat down. i started to eat my lunch while i was watching the marines play pool, i finally asked if i could play a game since it was during lunch time no harm no foul.

the marine who hadnt bn wearing a blouse who looked about 19 or 20 got in my face and started yelling at me telling me to sit my @$$ down shut up and study for my damn test and started going off on me about the nerve of a pfc... well i had fianlly had it with his attitude and him getting in my face like that and yelling at me for no reason.

i walked right toward him while he was yelling at me physically dominating him and told him: who the F##@ you think your talking to like that motherf#$#$er?! i may be a Pfc but i am a goddamn man 1st and i will respond like one. you want to order me around as a marine b/c of my rank fine but you do it with professionalism and respect to me as a marine and as a man!!

f#$@#in little snot nose punk kid... i am a grown @$$ man what the f#$$ are you like 19, 20? talking to me like that.

i had ran him into the pool table had him leaning back on it and scared everyone looked at us and no one said anything.. the cpl who had bn playing with him on the pool table game running telling us to break it up.. he took me to a corner and said to calm down.

he told me the way he responded to me was wrong but i should have not responded to him in the same manner... i was like i have bn behaving handling his abuse for a few hours now since i got here... he said he knows and he will talk to him about it..

the guy stormed out of the room like no tomorrow and game back and had put his blouse on which had him ranked as a sgt. i looked at it and automatically thought F#$@ i am screwed i f#$# up... he was angry wanted to charge me but he wasnt looking at me or raising his voice b.c i had scared him, he was talking to his cpl..

the cpl told him he should not have bn walking around without his blouse and that he would not back him up in his report if he filed one...

anyways that sgt was in charge of me for about two weeks b4 he finally got his Nco replacement.. true story..

That's not a funny story. That SUCKS, dude! I am soooo glad I didn't join the military.

But, thanks for you hard work and service to our country. Mad respect for that, bro.

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and that's why the Muslims hate America, that and out freedom.

Originally posted by Robtard
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and that's why the Muslims hate America, that and out freedom.

Not really.

But I'm sure they would enjoy the script for the movie when all the fighting stopped for a bit.