Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Right, let's go over Venom. Let's say, hypothetically, that Blade rakes Venom's chest with Mac 10 fire. What effect does it have on Venom? Also, if Drake or Nomak latch on to Venom, can he be bled dry? What if his throat is ripped out?
Bullet's are debatable; they'd probably harm/kill him.
Any of the vamps get that close to Venom,; they're getting broken, smashed and possibly having limbs removed.
Originally posted by RobtardVenom isn't gonna break Nomak, dude.
Bullet's are debatable; they'd probably harm/kill him.Any of the vamps get that close to Venom,; they're getting broken, smashed and possibly having limbs removed.
Blade'll catch Venom with his auto pistol. Venom is fast, but not a bullet dodger. DRAKE is a bullet dodger, therefore he is faster than Venom.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Venom isn't gonna break Nomak, dude.Blade'll catch Venom with his auto pistol. Venom is fast, but not a bullet dodger. DRAKE is a bullet dodger, therefore he is faster than Venom.
Venom overpowered Spider-man and Spider-man is a lot stronger than Nomak, ergo, Venom grabs and twist Nomak into a Reaper-pretzel.
Yeah, Blade might. Venom's webbing would/could stop him first though. Movie-feats in all, I'd say Venom beats Blade.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Actions are included with feats in the MVF golden rule. Actions are dictated by morals. Actions are determined by the way a character fights onscreen.. Spidey does not rip the heads off of others, therefore it is not an action of his. You cannot go changing a combatant's fighting style/methods just to win a debate. By doing so, you are changing who the combatant is, you are altering screen feats by claiming said combatant will do something that you and I, and everyone else, knows full well that said combatant would never do.Yoda does not use force lightning.
McClane does not kill innocents to win the day.
Vader does not go out of his way to help homeless Ithorians.
See how that works?
But hey, if all you have to offer is "Spidey will rip off Nomak's head", then fine. I come right back with "Nomak's head will regen after Spidey pulls it off." No way you can prove otherwise.
A ridiculous retort for a ridiculous claim.
I dealt, that's a royal flush. Ka-Ching.
So adorable how you got unbearably happy when you thought you'd caught me out.
It's not altering screen feats, fact. We're not saying he has DONE things he hasn't. We're saying that for the purposes of this fight everyone is going for the kill. He cannot go for the kill with abilities he did not show in the movies, he doesn't gain any new powers, he doesn't gain strength.
Nothing is being given OR taken away.
The only flush you deal is the one you rinse the bowl with after you birth these ridiculous posts out of your ass.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And Spidey ripping off Nomak's head goes against Spidey's onscreen feats/actions in every possible way.
Failure. You totally misunderstood his point.
He's saying Spidey could rip off Nomak's head as he has the strength to do so, and Nomak can't function without a head.
It's about what one character COULD do, and what one character couldn't do. COULD Spider-Man rip Nomak's head off if he had the chance and wanted to, bearing in mind that the O.P. has stated that all are going for the kill and the mod of this forum agrees?
Yes, he could. He has the strength to do so.
COULD Nomak continue fighting if this happened? No.
There. Stop misunderstanding people. The morals debate is over; you lost. Spider-Man is going for a kill.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So adorable how you got unbearably happy when you thought you'd caught me out.It's not altering screen feats, fact. We're not saying he has DONE things he hasn't. We're saying that for the purposes of this fight everyone is going for the kill. He cannot go for the kill with abilities he did not show in the movies, he doesn't gain any new powers, he doesn't gain strength.
Nothing is being given OR taken away.
The only flush you deal is the one you rinse the bowl with after you birth these ridiculous posts out of your ass.
Failure. You totally misunderstood his point.
He's saying Spidey could rip off Nomak's head as he has the strength to do so, and Nomak can't function without a head.
It's about what one character COULD do, and what one character couldn't do. COULD Spider-Man rip Nomak's head off if he had the chance and wanted to, bearing in mind that the O.P. has stated that all are going for the kill and the mod of this forum agrees?
Yes, he could. He has the strength to do so.
COULD Nomak continue fighting if this happened? No.
There. Stop misunderstanding people. The morals debate is over; you lost. Spider-Man is going for a kill.
-AC [/B]
haermm Yeah, sure man.
Spidey would go for the kill by beating on Nomak, by trying to web him and sling him around, that's Spidey's style. And he'd fail.
Get off the "Spidey'd rip his head off!!!" train, it's going nowhere. 🙄
Originally posted by Rogue JediSpidey would go for the kill by beating on Nomak, by trying to web him and sling him around, that's Spidey's style. And he'd fail.
Get off the "Spidey'd rip his head off!!!" train, it's going nowhere. 🙄
Parker is also extremely smart (as shown), so why wouldn't he use one of his greatest assets in a death-match, his uber-strength? I know why, because it ruins your argument.
Why do you think webbing Nomak would fail? He's super-strong, but he's not putting out more force than that train did against the webbing.
Originally posted by RobtardAnd Nomak would twist right out of it, watch the vid I posted.
Venom overpowered Spider-man and Spider-man is a lot stronger than Nomak, ergo, Venom grabs and twist Nomak into a Reaper-pretzel.Yeah, Blade might. Venom's webbing would/could stop him first though. Movie-feats in all, I'd say Venom beats Blade.
Blade's speed (in Blade 2, against the ninja vamps), would steer him clear of any and all webing thrown his way. Worst case scenario, Venom webs at him, Blade stands there and shoots through the webbing, and he rips Venom to pieces, THEN Blade is rendered motionless by the webbing.
Bullets stopped by webbing?
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Originally posted by RobtardBecause a hail of bullets had zero effect on Nomak? Yeah, Spidey is stronger, is prolly faster, but Nomak has WAY more damage soak. light years ahead of Spidey. It's like comparing McClane to a crack whore.
Parker is also extremely smart (as shown), so why wouldn't he use one of his greatest assets in a death-match, his uber-strength? I know why, because it ruins your argument.Why do you think webbing Nomak would fail? He's super-strong, but he's not putting out more force than that train did against the webbing.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
[B]And Nomak would twist right out of it, watch the vid I posted.Blade's speed (in Blade 2, against the ninja vamps), would steer him clear of any and all webing thrown his way. Worst case scenario, Venom webs at him, Blade stands there and shoots through the webbing, and he rips Venom to pieces, THEN Blade is rendered motionless by the webbing.
Bullets stopped by webbing?
Webbing is sticky, so no, Nomak and the other vamps would be held fast.
Bullets wouldn't likely go through webbing, considering its strength and elasticity, as shown.
Nomak has more damage soak to bullets, not to having his head pulled off.
Yeah, if you're gonna harp on one possibility. Why shouldn't anyone else? Additionally, you're acting like Nomak's Hulk or something. He got beat, in a fight, by Blade. Blade being the weaker of the two. He has no hand to hand skill, really. All he ever used were punches and rudimentary kicks.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm Yeah, sure man.Spidey would go for the kill by beating on Nomak, by trying to web him and sling him around, that's Spidey's style. And he'd fail.
Get off the "Spidey'd rip his head off!!!" train, it's going nowhere. 🙄
1. I love the way you dodged being massively corrected.
2. Oh how hypocritical.
Now you're the one, and the only one I might add, who is taking something away from Spidey.
How do you know what he'd do if killing was what he's after? You don't. You're saying he wouldn't because it suits you.
It's a fantasy battle, nobody knows. We've established that he'd go for the kill, as they all are. One way is ripping Nomak's head off. If he manages this, Nomak is out.
If. It's as viable a scenario as anything you come up with.
Also, regarding your above post full of failure:
Blade ripping Spidey apart?
How do we know Blade has that kind of strength? Spidey's arms/joints suffered no ill-effects of holding back a speeding train while being stretched. You're acting like Blade's gonna come along and exert more force and strength than a high speed train. He's not that strong.
Oppositely, Blade's arm got dislocated BY a speeding train. Spidey's didn't and it wasn't just coming from one direction and on one arm like Blade's. It was both arms, back, shoulders, legs.
Back to you, chief.
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Because a hail of bullets had zero effect on Nomak? Yeah, Spidey is stronger, is prolly faster, but Nomak has WAY more damage soak. light years ahead of Spidey. It's like comparing McClane to a crack whore.
Because Nomak has a healing factor. Could Nomak have taken having a few hundred tons of force crushing him and not be turned into mush? Spider-man did (giant Sandman scene). They're both durable, but in different aspects.
So again, webbing takes Nomak out of the fight. His head being ripped out ends him. The later not being necessary to win.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
1. I love the way you dodged being massively corrected.2. Oh how hypocritical.
Now you're the one, and the only one I might add, who is taking something away from Spidey.
How do you know what he'd do if killing was what he's after? You don't. You're saying he wouldn't because it suits you.
It's a fantasy battle, nobody knows. We've established that he'd go for the kill, as they all are. One way is ripping Nomak's head off. If he manages this, Nomak is out.
If. It's as viable a scenario as anything you come up with.
Also, regarding your above post full of failure:
Blade ripping Spidey apart?
How do we know Blade has that kind of strength? Spidey's arms/joints suffered no ill-effects of holding back a speeding train while being stretched. You're acting like Blade's gonna come along and exert more force and strength than a high speed train. He's not that strong.
Oppositely, Blade's arm got dislocated BY a speeding train.
Back to you, chief.
-AC
Blade's GUNS would rip Spidey apart. 🙄 GUNS. You know, things that go BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM.
Yes, a fantasy battle based on movie feats and actions, on the way a combatant tends to fight. Spidey does not tend to rip peoples heads off, he tends to beat them up, case closed.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Oppositely, Blade's arm got dislocated BY a speeding train. Spidey's didn't and it wasn't just coming from one direction and on one arm like Blade's. It was both arms, back, shoulders, legs.-AC
You forget when he tried to stop the Train first with his foot/leg, and he ended up breaking many (50-100?) a rail-beam. All he suffered was some minor knee-pain.
Originally posted by Robtard
Because Nomak has a healing factor. Could Nomak have taken having a few hundred tons of force crushing him and not be turned into mush? Spider-man did (giant Sandman scene). They're both durable, but in different aspects.So again, webbing takes Nomak out of the fight. His head being ripped out ends him. The later not being necessary to win.
How is Spidey gonna exert that kind of force on Nomak?
Face facts, dude, you know full well how Spidey is gonna fight Nomak. And it does NOT include ripping off Nomaks head. You're reaching for a win that isn't there.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Blade's GUNS would rip Spidey apart. 🙄 GUNS. You know, things that go BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM.
If he get's tagged, sure, Spider-man has avoided bullets before though. One thing of note, if these two were to go at it, Blade's bullets would run out after a couple of seconds, Spider-man's webbing doesn't need to be reloaded.
Back to you, sugar.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Blade's GUNS would rip Spidey apart. 🙄 GUNS. You know, things that go BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM.Yes, a fantasy battle based on movie feats and actions, on the way a combatant tends to fight. Spidey does not tend to rip peoples heads off, he tends to beat them up, case closed.
So, when do Blade's guns TEND to rip people apart? Yeah, that's what I thought. Shh.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How is Spidey gonna exert that kind of force on Nomak?Face facts, dude, you know full well how Spidey is gonna fight Nomak. And it does NOT include ripping off Nomaks head. You're reaching for a win that isn't there.
You don't know how this fight would go. It's a fantasy fight where all opponents are trying to kill one another.
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How is Spidey gonna exert that kind of force on Nomak?Face facts, dude, you know full well how Spidey is gonna fight Nomak. And it does NOT include ripping off Nomaks head. You're reaching for a win that isn't there.
He's have to grab his head, twist it, breaking his neck, then pin his body down and pull really hard. Could also use the webbing to hold his body in place.
But like I said, once Nomal's webbed, he's as good as out.
Originally posted by Robtard
If he get's tagged, sure. Spider-man has avoided bullets before. One thign of note, if these two were to go at it, Blade's bullets would run out after a couple of seconds, Spider-man's webbing doesn't need to be reloaded.Back to you, sugar.
Mac 10 holds 30 rounds, then he has the gauge. Not that hard to dump a clip and slam home a new one, takes maybe a second.