Evenstar's bracelet

ok so Arwen gives her pendant to Aragorn does that mean that the time she doesn't have it shes mortal and ages, or does hold a rather symbollic theme that she rather chooses to become mortal? please explain - thanks!!!

hmmm.good question.wish i knew the answer but ill have a guess.
i think the necklace of Arwen's does hold her "immortality" in it,since aragorn says in the fellowship "you can't give this to me".so if she gives it to aragorn,she is giving up her immortality and becoming mortal.
however,are elves really immortal???i thought they just aged very slowly....

i hope i helped a little!

elven age is too big for them to reach it, and die of old age. They die one way or another.
That pendant is a symbolic gesture. immortality can't be transposed in objects. It's just arwen's wish to become mortal.

k thanx so much

i agree it was just done for the film

melodramatic....but it turned out good

ok Arwen's necklace the evenstar represents her, it doesn't hold her immortality 🙂
and elves are immortal, there only a few ways they can die, they can die of a broken heart because its too much grieving , they can die getting killed in battle,and in the appendix it says that arwen could only die if all she had gained in her life was lost
so when she gives aragorn her necklace she is giving him her heart
so at the end when he dies and all the elves sail to the grey havens all that she had gained was lost so she went to the place they met and died

I hoped that answered your question 🙂

Originally posted by undomiel
and elves are immortal,

umm..no they're not. The can actually die of old age...but the period of time is stupidly large. Enough to get bored anyway.

excuse me if you say something like that you have to have some proof
ELVES ARE IMMORTAL!!!
😠
and you probobly are not a true lord of the rings fan to say something like that that is totally untrue 😠 😠 😠 😠

christ undomiel....get your facts right before talking nonsense. i'm not about to search for the exact passage in 'the silamrillion' but belive me.
they CAN die of old age. jeese!

excuse me I did not say it was from the silmarillion
you obviously dont have your facts straight to say they die of old age because if you were a true LOTR fan you would know that they are immortal

They are immortal in a sense. While they can die of old age, and that takes about 1,000,000 years, they cannot catch any illness or suffer any plagues men, dwarves, or hobbits may die of. Undomiel already posted the ways an Elf can die.

this goes the other way too undomiel. I could say that you're not a real fan of lotr by not knowing they can actually die of old age.
BUt i won't...because i know it's a details easily skipped even if you DID read 'the silmarillion'. (and btw...i know you didn't say it was from silmarillion but the elven life period extends in lotr also...it's pretty much a fact😉)
So...do double check nexttime..before arguing nonsensly

you can read pretty much any of the LOTR books to know that they are immortal
and what Id like to know is where you got your info from

Undomiel, you are WRONG, I am sorry to say. They die of old age, at the end of approximately 1 million years. It'll tell you in books about Tolkien's notes, it'll tell you in the Silmarillion, and it'll tell you in the Lord of the Rings.

At the Encyclopedia of Arda (great site with practically everything there is to know piled into it), it says this.

Unlike Men, the Elves were not subject to illness or death.

But it also says this.

More correctly, Elves don't suffer ageing in the same way as Men. In fact they do age, as Tolkien makes clear in his Letters. There, he says, 'The Elves were sufficiently longeval to be called by Man 'immortal'. But they were not unageing or unwearying.'

That last quote was taken from The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter No 245, dated 1963.

The dictionary says this about the word 'immortal.'

Used as an adjective:

1. Not subject to death.
2. Never to be forgotten; everlasting
3. Of or relating to immortality.

Used as a noun:

1. One not subject to death.
2. One whose fame is enduring.

The dictionary says this about the word 'immortality.'

Used as a noun:

1. The quality or condition of being immortal.
2. Endless life or existence.
3. Enduring fame.

Now, let's see if the Elves fit to any of these meanings.

Immortal meaning #1: The Elves were subject to death, either by extremely old age, death in battle, or extreme depression. See meaning #5 for Immortal as well.

Immortal meaning #2: The Elves were immortal in this sense. Gil-Galad's legend lived on even after Sauron had killed him.

Immortal meaning #3: See the comparing of Elves to the definitions of Immortality.

Immortal meaning #4: Again, Elves were subject to death.

Immortal meaning #5: Immortal in the sense of legends and tales and fame, not in life.

Immortality meaning #1: Again, they were not immortal. See the meanings above.

Immortality meaning #2: The Elves did not have endless life or existence. If they did, there would be more Elves.

Immortality meaning #3: Like the meanings relating to fame above.

In Greek mythology, the gods were immortals. The gods ate sacred nectar and ambrosia. In one story, the story of Prometheus the Fire-Bringer, he brought the gift of fire to Men of Greece against Zeus's will. Zeus, who had authority over all of creation, punished Prometheus by chaining him and having an eagle rip out his innards every day and every night. Being immortal, Prometheus felt the pain but did not die, and was eventually saved by Hercules some time later.

If you put the Elves in that position, they would die if they were gutted.

I repeat, they were immortal in the sense that they caught no diseases of Mankind and lived for a very long time. The Men called them immortal because they were unlike Men. Average Men lived at the longest 100 years, which was one-ten thousandth, or 1/10000, (that's a fraction btw) of Elven age.

Need I say more?