Except for the fact that BT and I are nothing alike, he's never played a Zelda game in his life and I've been a fan since I was 6. Then there's the fact that we joined at seperate times, whereas the lollinkclub all joined within 2 days of each other after Scream got laughed off the Link vs Dante thread...
I do have a problem with his claim that Cloud could eat Galaxies, and that by my logic that he can't is a gameplay limitation.
Saying Link can slice through rock is backed up by a great strength feat (which he'll ignore like BT). I'll believe Cloud can nom galaxies when his stomach is shown or stated to be larger than, say, Link's pocket.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nephthys:
The triforce pieces become part of the one who possesses them the triforce would be no different.
Would? Do you not know this for a fact? Interesting. Havn't people used the Triforce before? What happened then?
And I don't believe that even if it does become a part of them that they'd know how to use this power effectively to combat TC. Don't they hae to wish for things for it to work? Ultimecia would wipe them out before they could even think about it.
You're ignoring the bonds of friendship thing again anyway: But here's the deal. Why would TC work on Nayru?
The triforce contains her power, and it's passive. It's always active, what the one who possesses the triforce desires in their heart happens, that's the wishing power. The tirforce does more than just wishes, that's just it's greatest power, effectively high end reality warping.
Essentially: TC's never worked on something like that, nothing like this exists in the FF8 universe. To assuem she could do so is fallacious.
Except I don't have to prove that something won't happen, you have to prove that it will. Meaning that I don't have to prove that it will fail to absorb the Triforce, you have to prove that it will. And merely having the kind of power the Triforce has isn't enough, it has to actually use it. So unless those passive powers do something usefull, I still think team 2 wins. Especially if it only grants tehm what they want in their hearts, which would be rulership for Ganon and, if the TV show is anything to go by, a kiss from Zelda for Link. Or whatever.
As for the friendship thing:
''There's only one way to make yourself exist in a world like that! As friends, don't forget one another! As friends, believe in one another! Believe in your friends' existence!'So not only do you need to focus on friends, meaning you actually need friends judging by how its emphasised that you need to do all this 'as friends', but it seems like you need friends to focus on you as well. So..... I guess
SephirothLink is out of luck.
You're trying to argue semantics, sir. 😛
1. The triforce is always active, it has no off-switch, it's constantly using it's power.
2. The triforce doesn't give a damn about time, anyway, as seen in TP.
3. It has the power of the creator of time, and therefore so do Link and Ganon.
4. Being compressed goes directly against what Link and Ganondorf desire, she'd probably have to overwhelm their own reality warping. 😬
5. Claiming that TC just works on something like that without evidence that it does is fallacious, especially when by the standard set, the triforce's time powers are greater.
Let's make thigns a little less abstract for a moment. Let's say Ultimecia is in Street Fighter, and she can Shoryuken, and Shoryuken lifts people off the ground unless they block it.
what happens when she tries to Shoryuken something heavier than she can lift?
Could Ultimecia compress Nayru against her will? Nayru is heavier in time than anything Ultimecia has compressed before. This is just one third of the triforce.
6. Link's immune due to the power of friendship thing anyway.
Without time compression, Ultimecia and Squall are both horrificly boned against the triforce, really.
Edit: did someone seriously try to argue SEPHIROTH for the power of friendship immunity? I lol'd.
But I can't see in that emphasis where it says your friends need to be present.
More edit: And yes, the triforce does actively protect it's wielder. 😛 Even the seperate pieces.
-It's done so to Ganon on several occasions.
-It protects Link from the twilight field.
Sorry champ, but the Master Sword didn't do anything to hurt Ganon, simply arrows killed him when he was amped with the whole triforce. Arrows aren't ever stated to be a failsafe, yet they ended a triforce wielders life. Go play a Zelda game.
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So, what you're saying is: that the weapon stated explicitly to be a failsafe against someone abusing the triforce, in no way helped Link?
Wrong.
Also, retcons. Silver arrows = light arrows. Things have changed since 1992.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And they won that. 😛With the entire Triforce, there is no question that Link could do the same.
The only thing the Triforce would do is prevent Link from being absorbed. Yeah, I just told you that Link can prevent himself from being wasted from Time Compression.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Wow, gameplay mechanic.
Link killing everything in 1 hit with his Master Sword is fanboy fiction.
The Triforce would have never been obtained in the first place if the Master Sword hadn't been removed from the Pedestal of Time. Play OoT.
I've play OoT plenty of times. BTW, the sword was only a key to obtaining the Triforce in one game.
In FF8 she gets owned normal means. 🙂 GJ.
She was owned by PIS
They aren't "Time Compression" powerful or "Link" powerful, and they still win. 😬
PIS and they were still better than Link.
So what? There was MasterPISSword involved with Ganon's defeat, and without it, he would never be beaten. But, it happened. It's canon.
The Master Sword is a plot device. It's not PIS.
Lmao. Bullet > Magic arrows? 😆
Ganondorf wouldn't bother to stop eating breakfast to block a bullet.
Arrows move slower than bullets. Power won't mean anything if she can stop the arrow at its tracks.
The power of their combined essence is in this fight, and since you deny that power, it is relevant to discuss. Nice try at a cop-out. Almost worked. 👆
Neither show any level of a goddess's power
Ganondorf only cared about Hyrule. He said so in WW. Your argument is invalid.
Ultimecia was beaten by by the power of gay love and steel. Ganondorf was beaten by the Master Sword and Light arrows that are only given to the chosen ones by the goddesses themselves.
Ultimecia was beaten by a couple of characters who would waste Ganondorf faster than her first form. PLus they used PIS on what would've been a hopeless situation.
Exdeath would get banished to the gap between dimensions. He can fun with all the void he wants there. 👆
Exdeath can use Void with a thought, banishing Ganondorf permanently before he does anything. In fact, he doesn't even need Void; he can just X-Zone Ganon just like he did with Gilgamesh.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The only thing the Triforce would do is prevent Link from being absorbed. Yeah, I just told you that Link can prevent himself from being wasted from Time Compression.
And win the match without a sweat.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
I've play OoT plenty of times. BTW, the sword was only a key to obtaining the Triforce in one game.
If you believe the timeline, then it was the first Zelda. Without getting past the Master Sword to get the Triforce, the rest of the Legend of Zelda would have never happened. The fact stands.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
PIS and they were still better than Link.
Only in your own silly opinion. 😉
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Arrows move slower than bullets. Power won't mean anything if she can stop the arrow at its tracks.
1. Not in OoT.
2. Light arrows penetrate Ganon's defenses. Zell's fist penetrates Ultimecia's. 😬
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Neither show any level of a goddess's power.
Triforce = essence of the goddesses. Ganon and Link have both wielded the Trueforce. Nuff said.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Ultimecia was beaten by a couple of characters who would waste Ganondorf faster than her first form. PLus they used PIS on what would've been a hopeless situation.
😆 Now that's now wank, right there. If Squall's entire party were in LoZ, they would die at Ganondorf every time.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Exdeath can use Void with a thought, banishing Ganondorf permanently before he does anything. In fact, he doesn't even need Void; he can just X-Zone Ganon just like he did with Gilgamesh.
1. No, not only will Exdeath be banished to the gap between dimensions, he'll be banished there after being engulfed in body-disentigrating, soul-raping flames from an unknown location.
2. Permanently banish Ganondorf? 😆 , play a Zelda game. Ganondorf has had more experience escaping banishment than any FF character. Ganondorf is a dimensional warper and a casual dimensional traveler. Your argument is invalid.