Ganondorf & Link VS Ultimecia & Squall

Started by LLLLLink20 pages
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Youtube doesn't have debaters.

My point exactly. 😉

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Both are false. May want to come back when your mind is a little more open.

Eat your own words.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
OMGZORZ! A gunblade that doesn't even fire off any rounds... They all pale in comparison to Link and Ganon. 😬

Selphie alone can kill Link with her The End Limit Break. Angel winged Rinoa would rain meteors on Ganondorf's ass.


No one ever wished for those things with the Triforce, plus Link had the Master Sword. But, it doesn't matter because you are just going to forget that little tidbit again....

It's quite obvious that evil would rise again so wishing evil to disappear for good would've been useful. Link never did so either he forgot, is an idiot, or the Triforce isn't that powerful.

Let's not forget the king who could've wished Ganondorf out of existence with the Triforce but he never does. Why? Because the Triforce isn't that powerful.

The Master Sword being present doesn't mean anything to the Triforce's power.


Nayru's essence is in the fight, therefore her feats are relevant.

The only part of Nayru in this fight is Link's Nayru's Love which gets dispelled by Ultimecia.


Link reflects her magic via The Mirror Shield or Master Sword, and counters with a Light Arrow of evil smiting JUSTICE.

Link isn't reflecting a Tornado, a couple of planets, meteors, an earthquake, Ultima, Dispel, Holy, Apocalypse, or Hell's Judgment. Last time I checked, the Master Sword only reflected projectiles and broke certain barriers. The Mirror Shield isn't going to do any better.

The Light Arrows would just get stopped by her time magic and I doubt it's any stronger than Holy which is weaker than a lot of the things the FF8 protagonists can do.


Dispel has never worked on god-level characters; fallacy. Even youtube debaters are intelligent enough to know that wont work...

Neither Ganon nor Link are god-level characters.


Ganon dips Squall and Ultimecia in twilight and has his way with them.

Only in your wet dream fantasies does Ganondorf even stand a chance against Ultimecia. She was manipulating people across time and was becoming omnipotent via compression.

Cause Ultimecia totally crashed planets into Squall and co., none of hwom amount to anythign next to Ganon or Link with the entire triforce.

Have either of them ever done anything with the entire triforce really?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Cause Ultimecia totally crashed planets into Squall and co., none of hwom amount to anythign next to Ganon or Link with the entire triforce.

Ganon with the entire triforce was beaten by an elf boy with a faerie-enhanced sword (that reflect projectiles and destroy electricity) and light arrows (at most, it would be equal to Holy). Link with the entire triforce didn't prevent Ganon from rising again.

Ganon with the entire triforce was beaten by an elf boy with a faerie-enhanced sword
Powered by the gods and stated to be a failsafe against the triforce itself. Moot point, nice try.

Link with the entire triforce didn't prevent Ganon from rising again.
Bug Shiggy about this one; the timeline makes no sense.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Powered by the gods and stated to be a failsafe against the triforce itself. Moot point, nice try.

Yet, it still takes a bunch of hits to kill giant monsters and is useless on some of them.

Yet, it still takes a bunch of hits to kill giant monsters and is useless on some of them.

Gameplay mechanic.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia

Selphie alone can kill Link with her The End Limit Break. Angel winged Rinoa would rain meteors on Ganondorf's ass.

Lmao. Nayru's Love? 🙄

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia

Let's not forget the king who could've wished Ganondorf out of existence with the Triforce but he never does. Why? Because the Triforce isn't that powerful.

He had a more important wish. Play a Zelda game.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The Master Sword being present doesn't mean anything to the Triforce's power.

Good grief. You cant even get the Triforce without interaction with the Master Sword. Play a Zelda game.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia

The only part of Nayru in this fight is Link's Nayru's Love which gets dispelled by Ultimecia.

The entire Triforce includes Nayru's piece. Also, Ultimecia gets shot in the face with a Light arrow while trying to cast Dispel. GG.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia

Link isn't reflecting a Tornado, a couple of planets, meteors, an earthquake, Ultima, Dispel, Holy, Apocalypse, or Hell's Judgment. Last time I checked, the Master Sword only reflected projectiles and broke certain barriers. The Mirror Shield isn't going to do any better.

All of which were unable to kill a couple of mortals with normal weapons and more petty magic. Fail magic is fail.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The Light Arrows would just get stopped by her time magic and I doubt it's any stronger than Holy which is weaker than a lot of the things the FF8 protagonists can do.

Fallacy. Light Arrows penetrate even Ganon's defenses. What hope does Ultimecia have when she cant even defend herself against "normal" means?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia

Neither Ganon nor Link are god-level characters.

I was referring to the goddesses.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia

Only in your wet dream fantasies does Ultimecia even stand a chance against Ganondorf. He was manipulating people across dimensions and was becoming omnipotent via Triforce.

Fixed. 👆

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Gameplay mechanic.

I doubt Link kills giant monsters in one hit with the Master Sword.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Lmao. Nayru's Love? 🙄

Which is practically useless against The End as it can even kill Omega Weapon in one hit.


He had a more important wish. Play a Zelda game.

Crap excuse. Don't tell me to play a Zelda game when I've played the first game, Zelda 2, LttP, OoT, and Majora's Mask multiple times plus TP once. I know what I'm talking about.


Good grief. You cant even get the Triforce without interaction with the Master Sword. Play a Zelda game.

Ganon got the Triforce without the Master Sword. You go play LttP.


The entire Triforce includes Nayru's piece. Also, Ultimecia gets shot in the face with a Light arrow while trying to cast Dispel. GG.

Ultimecia would have already casted Dispel before the Light Arrow leaves the bow. Go play Final Fantasy 8.


All of which were unable to kill a couple of mortals with normal weapons and more petty magic. Fail magic is fail.

Those mortals were pretty powerful. Besides, there was PIS involved. Again, go play Final Fantasy 8.


Fallacy. Light Arrows penetrate even Ganon's defenses. What hope does Ultimecia have when she cant even defend herself against "normal" means?

Compared to FF villains, Ganondorf has shitty defenses. If Ultimecia can stop a bullet while possessing Edea, a magical arrow would be child's play.


I was referring to the goddesses.

This thread is titled Ganondorf & Link vs. Ultimecia & Squall. The goddesses are not in this fight.


Fixed. 👆

Ultimecia was a cosmic threat unlike Ganondorf whom was a only a threat to Hyrule and the Twili world. Ultimecia possessed people across time and was absorbing time and space to become omnipotent unlike Ganon who was beaten with a sword and magical arrows despite having the Triforce. Ultimecia can stop time, create monsters, and even bring to life beings invented from one's mind.

Hell, forget Ultimecia; Exdeath alone would put the Zelda world out of existence.

I'm watching you try to use Dissidia, and also flail around a bit.

her TC ability's not useful in this fight, and without it she has squat. 😬

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm watching you try to use Dissidia, and also flail around a bit.

her TC ability's not useful in this fight, and without it she has squat. 😬

I'm not using Dissidia, though she does use time stop more there.

TC is effective since there's no canon friendship between Link & Ganondorf. Without TC, she's still ahead of Ganondorf as she still can manipulate people through time, use powerful magic, and make thoughts come to life.

Fair 'nuff.

Squall and company's will-power, Love and Friendship isn't the reason they won that fight. Just pointing this out.

Without it they woulda been horribly boned. 😛

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Without it they woulda been horribly boned. 😛

Why?

They would have been absorbed in time, I guess.

Originally posted by Nephthys
They would have been absorbed in time, I guess.

Yes, due of Time Compression.
I'm talking about the fight, they still had to fight her.

And they won that. 😛

With the entire Triforce, there is no question that Link could do the same.

My apologies, I don't know anything about Zelda Universe.
Just pointing out that about Ultimecia, sorry to interrupt.