Originally posted by Phanteros
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If you watch the opening of GoWIII, you won't be able to resist watching. RajmanGamingHD is the user FT was talking about.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Ryu doesn't have the strength to hurt Kratos with a slash. Kratos has some epic durability feats coming up.Just wait till GoW3 comes out. This is a massive mismatch truly.
Indeed. Heck, he tanks an attack from Zeus that hurts a titan.
Originally posted by Allankles
There's no argument. The idea that Ryu couldn't hurt Kratos with his dragon blade is not logical. Kratos' sharp point durability is not remarkable, neither is Ryu's for that matter.These guys are not Superman.
There is an argument. Several actually. Some of them are spoilers for GOW3.
And what the hell is 'sharp point durability' exactly? Kratos is not made of rubber. A normal man wielding a blade certainly would not scratch him.
And the only times he's been killed by piercing were by people millions of times above Ryu in physical strength:
1. Ares, who was in full God size and threw a sharpened pillar beyond the speed of sound. That is far beyond anything Ryu can hope to muster physically. Even then Kratos' durability was enough that it slowed down the momentum of the pillar and kept it from bisecting him. And it would have done just that if it went through all the way, as the base was wider than Kratos' torso.
Kratos' has only since gotten much stronger since that game, even in base terms. Even still, that was the Kratos that could be sucked into another dimension and fall so far that his landing makes a massive crater upon impact in solid rock.
2. When he was stabbed by Zeus, who was wielding the BoO nonetheless, while Kratos was already weakened. Zeus is a physical match for Kratos as it is, and then he was wielding the BoO on top of it.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
There is an argument. Several actually. Some of them are spoilers for GOW3.And what the hell is 'sharp point durability' exactly? Kratos is not made of rubber. A normal man wielding a blade certainly would not scratch him.
And the only times he's been killed by piercing were by people millions of times above Ryu in physical strength:
1. Ares, who was in full God size and threw a sharpened pillar beyond the speed of sound. That is far beyond anything Ryu can hope to muster physically. Even then Kratos' durability was enough that it slowed down the momentum of the pillar and kept it from bisecting him. And it would have done just that if it went through all the way, as the base was wider than Kratos' torso.
Kratos' has only since gotten much stronger since that game, even in base terms. Even still, that was the Kratos that could be sucked into another dimension and fall so far that his landing makes a massive crater upon impact in solid rock.
2. When he was stabbed by Zeus, who was wielding the BoO nonetheless, while Kratos was already weakened. Zeus is a physical match for Kratos as it is, and then he was wielding the BoO on top of it.
As in a sharper object can pierce better then... a non-sharp object.
Those examples dont show his min resistance or any resistance to blades.
Originally posted by BloodRain
As in a sharper object can pierce better then... a non-sharp object.Those examples dont show his min resistance or any resistance to blades.
I've gone over this simple distinction with you already in another thread. It's quite stupid on versus forums when logic is non-existent and people can only try to compartmentalize durability as either 'sharp' or 'blunt'.
Drop a block of granite, which is sword proof, from the sky, and it breaks. Drop Kratos from the sky, and he gets up with no problem. If he already can survive something which produces more force and PSI than a human wielding a sword can generate, how then is that human being wielding a sword supposed to hurt him? Again, he's not made of rubber is he? No. He's not.
But besides that, I've already given you an example of his sharp point tanking ability in that other thread from GoW3. I didn't put spoilers on it unfortunately and I don't want to post it again even in spoilers now.
I repeat, Ryu is far too weak to cut Kratos.
Drop a block of granite, which is sword proof, from the sky, and it breaks. Drop Kratos from the sky, and he gets up with no problem. If he already can survive something which produces more force and PSI than a human wielding a sword can generate, how then is that human being wielding a sword supposed to hurt him? Again, he's not made of rubber is he? No. He's not.To be fair, this is sort of a result of Granite's own hardness making it brittle, because it cannot flex.
Still, Kratos has durability feats. Dunno how strong Ryu is. Will ask Cyner.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
I've gone over this simple distinction with you already in another thread. It's quite stupid on versus forums when logic is non-existent and people can only try to compartmentalize durability as either 'sharp' or 'blunt'.Drop a block of granite, which is sword proof, from the sky, and it breaks. Drop Kratos from the sky, and he gets up with no problem. If he already can survive something which produces more force and PSI than a human wielding a sword can generate, how then is that human being wielding a sword supposed to hurt him? Again, he's not made of rubber is he? No. He's not.
But besides that, I've already given you an example of his sharp point tanking ability in that other thread from GoW3. I didn't put spoilers on it unfortunately and I don't want to post it again even in spoilers now.
I repeat, Ryu is far too weak to cut Kratos.
Yes but without knowing his min psi limit that he can take to gain injury (especially of a blade) you cant say for certain that he cant be cut.
Got a number?
Originally posted by BloodRain
Yes but without knowing his min psi limit that he can take to gain injury (especially of a blade) you cant say for certain that he cant be cut.Got a number?
I don't have a number unfortunately, but its a tad redundant saying PSI on a blade, because PSI already accounts for surface area.
Again if the blunt force produces more of that than the cutting option can make up for with its smaller surface area, then that's that.
Did I just read someone say Ryu cannot hurt Kratos?
If Kratos has some way to resist damage from the Dark Dragon Blade (a weapon that, pretty much disintegrated a human being's body upon impact) and a plasma saber (made of the same thing a lightsaber is made out of, plasma), then, yeah. Kratos has mad uber defense.