That didn't make sense. Saying that Gorribal is the embodiment of ALL evil is not a fallacy, it's a trait. I just think claiming that Master Sword can bane Gorribal is an unreasonable claim, since there's nothing supporting it. Gorribal is more evil than anything Link has ever met, in both quantity and quality.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
That didn't make sense. Saying that Gorribal is the embodiment of ALL evil is not a fallacy, it's a trait. I just think claiming that Master Sword can bane Gorribal is an unreasonable claim, since there's nothing supporting it. Gorribal is more evil than anything Link has ever met, in both quantity and quality.
lolwut? How can you quantify or qualify evil? Claiming that the Master Sword which specifically does enormous amounts of damage to Evil characters but wouldn't hurt a specific guy because he's more of the same evil that is being destroyed is an idea that doesn't seem to make sense to me.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
When you ask that, we could also ask how you tell good apart from evil. I could claim that Ganondorf is not evil, just misunderstood or confused.
Normally this would be a philosophical question that I would love to discuss with you, however in this case evil is whatever the sword decides is evil. So even though Ganondorf is sad and misunderstood the sword considers him evil and thus smites him.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
When you ask that, we could also ask how you tell good apart from evil. I could claim that Ganondorf is not evil, just misunderstood or confused.
Ganondorf started as a powerful warlock, known as the "Demon Thief". After he learns of the Triforce, he becomes twisted and corrupted to the point where he is nothing but pure malice and becomes known as "The Great King of Evil". There is a quote somewhere, but I'll have to replay through the game to find it...
All that aside, the Master Sword decides what is evil, and the amount of evil is a pointless factor.
I would normally agree with you, but good and evil is just not that simple. Ganondorf returning as the King of Evil isn't really worth anything, nor did it tell us anything other than that he got a longer, less catchy title.
I would like to know how the amount of evil is a pointless factor though. On what you are basing this. There is one thing dealing with an evil man, but something entirely different when you're dealing with the embodiment of all evil that exist.
From what I've seen, and I'm going to talk Pokemon tongue now, the Master Sword is Super-Effective against Evil, but Super-Effective could still lose battles. Yes, that's a metaphor. My point is, Gorribal is like nothing Link or the Master Sword has ever encountered. The Master Sword is used to minions of darkness, but Gorribal is PURE evil. There are no factors of significance, nothing of importance beyond the fact that all evil that exist is Gorribal.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
I would normally agree with you, but good and evil is just not that simple. Ganondorf returning as the King of Evil isn't really worth anything, nor did it tell us anything other than that he got a longer, less catchy title.I would like to know how the amount of evil is a pointless factor though. On what you are basing this. There is one thing dealing with an evil man, but something entirely different when you're dealing with the embodiment of all evil that exist.
From what I've seen, and I'm going to talk Pokemon tongue now, the Master Sword is Super-Effective against Evil, but Super-Effective could still lose battles. Yes, that's a metaphor. My point is, Gorribal is like nothing Link or the Master Sword has ever encountered. The Master Sword is used to minions of darkness, but Gorribal is PURE evil. There are no factors of significance, nothing of importance beyond the fact that all evil that exist is Gorribal.
I like your analogy, but the extremes are a little farther apart than that.
Imo, the Trueforce is needed to win, because Sargeras is just too big. If he were smaller, it'd be a different story, but he isn't.
Ganondorf could still seal him in the gap between dimensions, but for all I know, Sargeras might be immune to it.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Ganondorf could still seal him in the gap between dimensions, but for all I know, Sargeras might be immune to it.
Unfortunately, some of the few feats Sargeras has prevent that from defeating him. He has killed people from a seperate dimension, he has projected avatars from a seperate dimension and he has literally, with physical force forced a gateway between dimensions open.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Unfortunately, some of the few feats Sargeras has prevent that from defeating him. He has killed people from a seperate dimension, he has projected avatars from a seperate dimension and he has literally, with physical force forced a gateway between dimensions open.
Ganondorf has done all of that.
Team Zelda loses. The LLLC only debates Zelda characters in threads they can win. 😛 Even 5L's admitted they lose. The only way this could work due to Sargeras ridiculous size is the triforce.
even think Gorribal has too much darkness for the Master Sword to bane
This however I disagree with.
You cannot be too wet to conduct electricity, you cannot be too evil for smiting evil to smite you. But you can be big enough for it to be less lethal.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You cannot be too wet to conduct electricity, you cannot be too evil for smiting evil to smite you. But you can be big enough for it to be less lethal.
You can wear potent enough clothing to walk through fire. You can be dark enough to shroud light, at least in Warcraft. That's how Korialstrasz lost middle and index finger 😛