Deadpool vs Midnighter

Started by OneDumbG06 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm not really concerned with the outcome of the fight. Superman tossed Shazam, Batman altered the trajectory with a kick, and the force of the landing caused Shazam to temporally revert back into Billy however briefly.

I don't feel like making up numbers, but if I'm going to just make up random numbers, maybe I'm going to assume it can reach escape velocity. Which is what? 11km a second?

Yes. And Shazam was still playing possum. And the feat's still nowhere as far-fetched as Batman kicking a fired tank shell back into a tank.

Suffice it to say you have no grasp of what escape velocity actually entails. But projecting what you think applies to space shuttles escaping Earth's orbit still has little relevance to a small missile's speed that has just left it's launching pad. And the feat's still nowhere as far-fetched as Cap punching a fired tank shell back into a tank.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Yes. And Shazam was still playing possum. And the feat's still nowhere as far-fetched as Batman kicking a fired tank shell back into a tank.

Suffice it to say you have no grasp of what escape velocity actually entails. But projecting what you think applies to space shuttles escaping Earth's orbit still has little relevance to a small missile's speed that has just left it's launching pad. And the feat's still nowhere as far-fetched as Cap punching a fired tank shell back into a tank.

I'm pretty sure that the force needed for Superman through Shazam and knock him back into Billy, however briefly, is significantly above that of a tank shell being fired. Unless you think Shazam consciously switched back into Billy on his own accord, in order to fool Bruce... which would be the most needless strategy ever concocted. I mean, thats like give Batman two years of prep time to peel a banana.

My flight speed estimation is just as valid as yours. We have no idea how fast that rocket was traveling, we don't know anything about it you are the one who decided to we where going to make some baseless estimations. 🙄

^ Playing possum. To draw Batman near and keep Superman confident in believing he can easily take Hawkman. And still the feat is nowhere near as far-fetched as Batman slapping a fired tank shell back into a tank.

You still have no idea of what escape velocity actually is. Which is amply demonstrated by you're transplanting that number onto a space shuttle at top speed (which is wrong). Accordingly, you think small missiles reach speeds right after take off that exceed that of even space shuttles at the peak of their flight (which is again wrong). Ergo, you're clueless by about three degrees.

A small missile at the start of its flight going 200 mph is far more reliable estimation that the parade of phail above. And that feat is still not as far-fetched as Cap head-butting a fired tank shell back into a tank.

I think someone wrote a line for this that I remember:

Midnighter: "I've run this scenario a million times in my head - and he does something completely different every damn time!"

Deadpool breaks the fourth wall and asks the writers to kill Midnighter in the most humiliatingly possible way 😆

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Playing possum. To draw Batman near and keep Superman confident in believing he can easily take Hawkman. And still the feat is nowhere near as far-fetched as Batman slapping a fired tank shell back into a tank.

You still have no idea of what escape velocity actually is. Which is amply demonstrated by you're transplanting that number onto a space shuttle at top speed (which is wrong). Accordingly, you think small missiles reach speeds right after take off that exceed that of even space shuttles at the peak of their flight (which is again wrong). Ergo, you're clueless by about three degrees.

A small missile at the start of its flight going 200 mph is far more reliable estimation that the parade of phail above. And that feat is still not as far-fetched as Cap head-butting a fired tank shell back into a tank.

Idea that Shazam was playing possum to lure in Batman is absurd. It would be completely nonsensical, and pointless. Shazam got knocked for a loop. He reverted back to Billy. Batman came over to him. He re-Shazam'ed. He didn't say to himself "I'm going to trick Batman by turning human again!" No, that was just a happy byproduct of the events that unfolded.

The fallowing are truths: A) Superman can throws harder than tank shell B) It takes more than the force of a tank shell to lay out Shazam C) Shazam was briefly incapacitated by Superman's throw and D) Batman altered the trajectory of Shazam who was thrown hard enough to by Superman for him be incapacitated, however briefly.

By the way, I'm well aware that escape velocity only applies to objects without a propulsion system. I picked an absurd arbitrary number, to confront the random arbitrary number you choose... and said as much in my original post, and my response to your response of that original post... Not really sure how you came to conclusion that I think an object needs to travel at escape velocity to leave the earth's atmosphere... we weren't even talking about anything related to that. 😕

^ Except, it was pretty much implied that's exactly how Hawkman and Shazam decided to do it, particularly with Billy Batson's lil smirk. I don't even remember Batman changing his trajectory with his lovetap.

The concept of escape velocity does not preclude propulsion. I don't know what you're talking about. I was referencing that space shuttles don't even reach escape velocity. Look it up. You arbitrarily picked a velocity that even space shuttles don't reach at their top speeds. Much less small missiles at their top speeds that don't have millions of gallons of fuel. Much less small missiles who have just begun their launch phase. Projecting your arbitrary and multi-tiered absurdity onto my estimation doesn't taint my estimation.

And Batman or Cap kicking a fired tank shell in mid-flight back into a tank is still more far-fetched than those feats.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I think someone wrote a line for this that I remember:

Midnighter: "I've run this scenario a million times in my head - and he does something completely different every damn time!"

👆 Good luck to him predicting Deadpool.

Originally posted by TheMagicPillow
Deadpool breaks the fourth wall and asks the writers to kill Midnighter in the most humiliatingly possible way 😆

This I can accept

Originally posted by 753
It just doesnt stop

http://img372.imageshack.us/i/m4ef6.jpg/

He'll kick deadpool's head off for a temporary victory

Deadpool got punched through a wall by the Hulk. And his healing factor wasn't working at the time. This is not goning to happen. Not with one kick nor with dozen.

Originally posted by SamZED
Deadpool got punched through a wall by the Hulk. And his healing factor wasn't working at the time. This is not goning to happen. Not with one kick nor with dozen.

I've been over this before, IIRC hulk was weakened and even then it's pis, deadpool gets hurt by far less on a daily basis. Hulk pulverizes mountains.

Point is midnighter has the strengh to pull limbs from people and punch through their bodies, DP is toughr than no name characters but he'll take a lot of damage from blows like that.

Originally posted by 753
I've been over this before, IIRC hulk was weakened and even then it's pis, deadpool gets hurt by far less on a daily basis. Hulk pulverizes mountains.

Point is midnighter has the strengh to pull limbs from people and punch through their bodies, DP is toughr than no name characters but he'll take a lot of damage from blows like that.

That's likie saying that since Cap America can knock out some random dude with a punch it means he can oneshot Batman. The thing is Deadpool is that strong as well (or almost that strong), ripping libs and punching through people is not all that great actually, Logan and Elektra has done it and they're not stronger than Deadpool, and Wade's durability level is far greater comparing to his strength level. And that Hulk was still class 100 and it wasn't the only class 90-100 Deadpool's taken hits from. And im not even taking his hf into cincieration here. Midnighter is not damaging Deadpool ftw. Let alone ripping his limbs, just not gonna happen.

Originally posted by SamZED
That's likie saying that since Cap America can knock out some random dude with a punch it means he can oneshot Batman. The thing is Deadpool is that strong as well (or almost that strong), ripping libs and punching through people is not all that great actually, Logan and Elektra has done it and they're not stronger than Deadpool, and Wade's durability level is far greater comparing to his strength level. And that Hulk was still class 100 and it wasn't the only class 90-100 Deadpool's taken hits from. And im not even taking his hf into cincieration here. Midnighter is not damaging Deadpool ftw. Let alone ripping his limbs, just not gonna happen.

DP may be strong enough to do it too, although a I place him below MN. I believ MN has tagging advantage due to his enhacements and battle prediction.

The question here is DP's durabilty. He gets hurt by far less than punches from the hulk, do you honestly believe hulk couldnt crush his head like a grape? or that if he slapped DP down on the floor it wouldnt liquify him? Hulk desintegrates boulders. DP doesnt have the one piece adamantium skeleton. He gets by with those class 100 because of character shields, PIS, CIS and CIP. He surely is a lot tougher than common people though, but wrecking his body isnt above MN strengh and impact level.

DP is penetrated by common weapons, he remains functional despite all the damage he takes, even with a blade in his brain because of the HF.

Originally posted by 753
DP may be strong enough to do it too, although a I place him below MN. I believ MN has tagging advantage due to his enhacements and battle prediction.

The question here is DP's durabilty. He gets hurt by far less than punches from the hulk, do you honestly believe hulk couldnt crush his head like a grape? or that if he slapped DP down on the floor it wouldnt liquify him? Hulk desintegrates boulders. DP doesnt have the one piece adamantium skeleton. He gets by with those class 100 because of character shields, PIS, CIS and CIP. He surely is a lot tougher than common people though, but wrecking his body isnt above MN strengh and impact level.

DP is penetrated by common weapons, he remains functional despite all the damage he takes, even with a blade in his brain because of the HF.

Getting slapped definitely wont liquify him. Break his bones? Sure. But that's it. Also he may not be bulletproof but neither is Spider-man. That doesn't mean he can't be crazy durable. He's an enhanced human. How can you just say that every time he takes a class 70-90-100 punches is PIS? That happens all the time and how else are we supposed to judge his durability? And he doesnt normally get damaged by lesser force. Not really, normally takes A LOT of force to damage him. There are examples of him being hurt by streetlevelers ofcourse but those are minority and can be argued as low showings comparing to his random durability feats. She-Hulk punched his face through a pavement once, he wasn't ok ofcourse but even she couldnt crack his skull. On the second page there's a scan of him catching a class 70 punch (or class 90 maybe?) and almost breaking Moonstone's hand, yet MN will be able to rip his limbs off and punch a hole in him? I seriously doubt it. Took Spider-man a few dozen punches (and im talking a non-holding back Spider-man) in order to knock Deadpool out even though Wade wasn't fighting back and was just standing there and taking it. And he wasn't that damaged either, just koed.
Here's a little something. Falls from a skyscrapper and smashes through a pavement, healing factor or no healing factor he didn't even break any bones.
http://i040.radikal.ru/0910/43/9b0f93b867d7.jpg
He's crazy durable. It's believable that MN is stronger than him, but he's definitely not strong enough to cause enough damage to put Deadpool down. Not with his bare hands anyway.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't know a fridge weights like 6-700 lbs, I don't know how much a rail road beam weights but I figure its significantly less than a I-Beam. /shrug

What the hell kind of fridge do you have!? Mine weighs around 200 lbs, max. I know, 'cause I moved it into the house. And err...I don't *think* I can lift 700 lbs. Maybe I'm wrong! 😱

And MN wins. About 7/10.

Originally posted by Enyalus
What the hell kind of fridge do you have!? Mine weighs around 200 lbs, max. I know, 'cause I moved it into the house. And err...I don't *think* I can lift 700 lbs. Maybe I'm wrong! 😱

And MN wins. About 7/10.

Thats true, I guess I didn't account for the fact that my fridge is old as ****. 🙁

Midnighter.

Deadpool

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
...which would be the most needless strategy ever concocted. I mean, thats like give Batman two years of prep time to peel a banana.

That is an awesome quote. I'm saving that.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I think someone wrote a line for this that I remember:

Midnighter: "I've run this scenario a million times in my head - and he does something completely different every damn time!"

I still say this is the most likely outcome.