Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Doesn't SMG Bowser also have some kind of fast spin attack to make up for his slowness? I forget. Been awhile since I've played that.
Sort of.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Durability doesn't matter if you can't do anything on that level. PLus, Bowser is slow.
Wait, wait, wait. Wuuuut!?
K, at BEST this gives Cloud a stalemate. If he can't hurt Bowser, and Bowser can't catch him, it's a tie.
However, Cloud will be slowly burning to death as the match progresses giving Bowser an eventual win as he does nothing at all. 😐
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Wait, wait, wait. Wuuuut!?K, at BEST this gives Cloud a stalemate. If he can't hurt Bowser, and Bowser can't catch him, it's a tie.
However, Cloud will be slowly burning to death as the match progresses giving Bowser an eventual win as he does nothing at all. 😐
This isn't the first time that Cloud has dealt with fire, I doubt the area would be able to burn him to death, unless he was actually submerged into the lava, and he's too fast for Bowser to hit him with his fire. Even if Bowser did end up hitting him with fire, I doubt it would do much damage. Cloud has some pretty impressive durability feats too if you think about it. When he as a kid, there was a cut scene in to game where Cloud and Tifa fell off the side of a cliff. The fall was high enough to knock him out when he hit the ground, but if I remember correctly, when he woke up he only ended up scrapping his knee.
Cloud has also took Sephiroth's sword through his chest, and was still able to ignore the pain, push the sword deeper into his chest in order to get closer to Sephiroth, and throw him into a crater. This happened when Cloud was a regular human too. Both of these feats happened before Cloud was pumped full of Jenova cells, turning him into a super soldier, so it's safe to assume that he's a hell of a lot stronger now. Plus, if we count AC he can take a Mega-flare to the face.
Also, Cloud has some pretty lethal attacks, not just including his sword. It wouldn't be wise for Bowser to, as you said, stand there and do nothing. His magic is going to help him out a lot in this fight too, and since the RPG Bowser dosn't apply in this thread, I don't really see hoe Bowser can be immune to all of Could's status effects. Assuming that Cloud can't hurt him isn't very wise either. If Mario can hurt the Bowser from Galaxy simply by punching him and avoiding his attacks, and Cloud is stronger and a lot faster than Mario, then it should be pretty easy for Cloud to be able to hurt Bowser.
Okay, so how about Bowser stands in the middle of the room, effectively cutting off almost all of Cloud's space and bringing him into range of an attack.
If Cloud lacks the force of a supernova (granted it isn't the size of a complete star, but it still tore open a Black Hole), he won't hurt Bowser. So Cloud can run in a circle all he wants, it won't do anything.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Okay, so how about Bowser stands in the middle of the room, effectively cutting off almost all of Cloud's space and bringing him into range of an attack.If Cloud lacks the force of a supernova (granted it isn't the size of a complete star, but it still tore open a Black Hole), he won't hurt Bowser. So Cloud can run in a circle all he wants, it won't do anything.
Lacks the force of a Supernova??? The developers of the game state that Sephiroth's Supernova spell has the REAL FORCE of a supernova. Even though people disagree with the attack, saying the cutscene of the solar system blowing up is an illusion. The attack does stilll exist, seeing how it does physically harm Cloud. Since both of them have survived the FORCE of a supernova, Cloud's attacks can and will hurt bowser.
Mario and the others were involved in Bowser's so-called feat too, but at the end of the game it was the stars and Rosalia, not Bowser's durability, that saved all of them. Cloud survived Sephiroth's attack on his own.
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
the force of a super nova would obliterate the planet they were standing on.so i dont see how that is possible.
Doesn't matter if it is possible, or not. I'm pretty sure the developers of the game know more about it than the fans do. If they claim it has the power of a supernova, then it does. I don't see how it's possible that they could be wrong about it.
Originally posted by The Scenario
It could be if they don't really know how supernovas work. Besides, even if Cloud could tank something like that, it doesn't mean he can dish it out. Bowser can tank an actual supernova, so by your logic all of his attacks are as powerful as supernovas.See how that works?
I'm pretty sure that they do know how a supernova works, considering that they designed a cutscene of a real supernova when he uses his attack on Cloud. They still state it has the force of a real supernova.
Are Mario's attacks as powerful as supernovas??? I don't believe they are, but yet he is still able to hurt Bowser. Hmmm..... so Cloud can tank a supernova, and still be hurt be weaker attacks. Yet, by your logic, Bowser can tank a supernova, and that makes him invinsible to any attack that aren't as powerful as a supernova. That just doesn't add up, are you sure your not mixing up logic with opinion?
See how that works???
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
It's probably an illusion. But the pain inflicted by supernova is not an illusion. Proof? Supernova still inflict damage to FF VII party.
want proof, go to youtube and watch for yourself. After the cutscene, they clearly take damage. If the attack was only an illusion then it shouldn't have done anything to them. I've never heard of an illusion that can physically harm someone. To the best of my knowledge, illusions only seem to affect the mind. So there has to be something more to Sephiroth's attack than just mind games. That's just common sense. According to the people that made the game, whatever that something is has the force of a real supernova.
Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
want proof, go to youtube and watch for yourself. After the cutscene, they clearly take damage. If the attack was only an illusion then it shouldn't have done anything to them. I've never heard of an illusion that can physically harm someone. To the best of my knowledge, illusions only seem to affect the mind. So there has to be something more to Sephiroth's attack than just mind games. That's just common sense. According to the people that made the game, whatever that something is has the force of a real supernova.
If you think so, do you have another explanation why the entire planet is still OK even though Supernova animation showed the entire solar system destroyed?