Originally posted by namorsubby
yes.....and there's no way spidey could just web him to end up......that makes no sense either.lol
Whats funny I think your a joke becuase of how you can make statements like spiderman 20 faster, or x is a human in speed and reflexes.
you think I am rediculous based off assumptions of my believe on the out come.
Samz you see this, start reading out three pages back you enjoy it.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
again fresh coming from the same person who displays constant ignorance and states things as facts that are complete and utter bull shit.Now:
Again based on what? You can keep stating that he has human reflex speed as a fact, but it won’t be any more then ignorant bull shit the 10th time you said it then it was the first.
Listen carefully the guy has displayed since day one to easily keep up with superhuman reflex and combat speed, this is a fact.
Thank you for proving your ignorance. He has an actual name and went by another character name well before he was scourage. Yea I highly doubt you got that from your personal pics and this statement pretty much proves you did not,
If he was actually a human the you might have an argument and even then you be hard pressed, since if there are several minds there would be several conflicting brain patterns
go a head and look stupid
//img7.imageshack.us/img7/1446/thunderbolts132012.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]The got it from his own self description which happen a year or more after shield went under?
Come on now you can come up with better ways to try ignore feats then this. That was just pathetic.
Go look and find it then. It has never been stated. As has it never been stated for numerous character.
Yea here the difference between you and me I uses comic as my resources, you base your knowledge on hand books.
Oh and guess what? Hand books are not even allowed as evidence on the board.
Don’t believe me go ask pr the mod.
tell that to wolverine
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Random%20comic%20feats/page21.jpgand tell that to black widow
Here your problem you think handbooks mean something. There such crappy evidence that the dam forum does not even acknowledge it as evidence. They contradict them selfs time and again. They don’t even have legit writers do them, even marvel does not take them serous.
You also don’t even understand how inaccurate they are. With out even looking at the hand book x was in (which was wolverine 2004) I can tell you 5 incorrect statements and at least 3 contradictions it made to it self……you understand how retarded you look trying to uses something that contradicted it self……..
We uses on panel evidence here. X has since day one shown to been superhuman in reflexes and speed. Your refusal to acknowledge this does not say anything against me or him, but is reflection on your on ignorance.
yes
and he far less showings but based on what has been shown yes he has the reflexes to match him. This can be proven with his feats. Are they better no, are they good enough to keep pace, hell ****ing yes.
Honestly how many times are you going to bring these guys yup? No he can’t and no one ever argued that and I certainly did not, but yet you bring them up over and over.
Based on his feats like we do all the time here, which is something you seem unable to grasp.
Originally, I was inclined to believe spidey would win this fight based on superior speed/strength. However, given all the comments about Mr. X's possible superhuman qualities I checked back in my old comics... it certainly does appear he is faster than peak human, especially when fighting tasky. Not sure if it holds any weight in the forums, but marvel.com's character bio states, 'Through years of intensive training, Mr. X has honed his body and physical attributes to the pinnacle of human conditioning.' It would be nice to get a canon account of just what kind of physical feats Mr. X is capable.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I am bias mr spiderman is 69 times faster.......how the **** can you even have the nerve to call some one else bias? GTFOI gotta say the logic you so one sidedly uses, never stops to amaze.
Or did you forget that those same characters you say to slow to hit spiderman and would get stomp, also have dodge bullets which would make spiderman hitting them to also contradict the same logic you are using?
no of course not, because you so call logical reasoning is so one sided it rediculous.
here your mistake thinking it 100% efficient or accurate.
You take spiderman as you wish he was potrayed not how he is, was or ever will be.
Most people take charcters as there consistently shown which is the most accurate way to debate in my opinion
Within his character personality and limitations some thing you never seen able to grasp. Nor do you ever seem able to grasp then the other characters are potrayed at there best as well
Your very one sided in your line of thinking
yes if we all lived in your delusional world then you might be right, but sadly for you we dont
Hardly anyone can truly dodge bullets except Spidey. The others were merely aim dodging. Spidey's spider sense goes out the window only for the sake of the story (PIS). Because it is always 100% efficient vs. bullets, lasers, arrows, darts, etc. Those things are >>>>>> than the attacks spidey gets hit with because of the story.
U picture these fights happening in comics (where PIS, sake of the story, etc. takes place), I picture them happening in real life (big difference)
Which that said, Spidey dodges on of X's attacks. That would leave X open and Spidey counters him and combos him to ko. This is a very reasonable argument.
although saying that sm is 60 times faster is laughable (thats only comparing to ord humans while peak and enhanced humans themselvs are many times faster than ordinary ones) its is likely for parker to use webbing to win the fight. Not lines ofcourse (x would easilly dodge those) but he can spray the ground with webbing, pretty much turn the battlefield into one big trap like he did when he fought deadpool, x wont be able to free himself with a sword, wade had prep for that situation. Also i do believe parker is faster and can evade x's attacks long enough to make a trap. That is if we go by his good showings which we should. I mean deadpool and logan can dodge bullets but sometimes get shot because of plot, but if i make a "deadpool no hf vs some guy with gun" i doubt anyone would say that dp would get shot and die because he sometimes get shot in the books as long as he displayed the speed to easily dodge bullets and has done that countless times..
Mr. X is kinda like daken, in that he appears to have super speed, when it is in part due to another power (albeit Daken does have a level of super speed, not to the degree his enemies perceive), evidence in this comes from how easily he is defeated once one is able to bypass his ability (ironfist on one occasion, ironfist and luke cage together, wolverine in his berserker rage, and the scourge scan that's been posted) of course he's a great martial artist, so there is some leeway in that if one is able to bypass his ability they may not be able to beat him. But someone like spiderman who uses precog and therefore doesn't think but rather reacts will be able to bypass Mr. X's ability.
then the question is if Mr. X, without his ability to lean on, would be able to make up for it in hand to hand skill, however with all the advantages spiderman holds in terms of physicality one, one would think not.
spiderman should win 7/10
