Mister X vs Spider-Man

And M-11 is a robot with a self-repairing healing factor, force fields and vast superhuman strength. Before you start talking shit for losing to him maybe you should put down your copy of Red Hulk, and read some Agents of Atlas.

Clearly you have no concept of what Wolverine's Berserker Rage is. Wolverine doesn't hate his Berserker Rage and fight it with every waking moment with every fiber of his being because it makes him sloppy and weak, he strives to remain in control because it makes him too good. Berserker Wolverine is the perfect killing machine, created perfect by nature and improved upon by science. He thinks much faster, he moves much faster, he's much stronger, and he is more skilled. He is the best there is at what he does.

Berserker Wolverine is what fighters and strive for when they tireless train for years and years for the right combat responses to become second nature to them, an unconscious reaction floating around in the subconscious, only its not second nature to Wolverine, its first nature. Every fiber of Wolverine's being is screaming at him to fight and kill at every second of every day. Fundamentally is the same as Sabretooth except Logan spends his every waking hour trying to control his instincts, where as Creed just allows them to do their business. Wolverine hasn't traveled the world to learn every martial art disciple to become a better fighter - he never needed too he was a great fighter by design - he's done it to gain some measure of control and self discipline, so he can keep the beast caged. And thats how he fights people the majority of the time, using his immense will power to hold of the beast, while he ignores everyone of his instincts and fights with some measure of restraint. Berserker Wolverine is completely uncaged, fulling giving into the instincts Wolverine ignores normally, and so far as killing is involved his instincts are always right.

The Berserker Rage is weeks of combat compressed into minutes. It is the equivalent of a gymnast preforming a gold medal routine while simultaneously beating two super computers at chess. It is an unstoppable force of nature created only to kill and its the best there is at what it does. The only down side to the Berserker Rage is that he will kill indiscriminately.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And M-11 is a robot with a self-repairing healing factor, force fields and vast superhuman strength.

and in his fight vs x he didnt need anything of it since he just owned x right ahead like nothing

all thet Things you said about berserk wolverine that he is more skilled that way and thinks faster and better at everything i tellyou what i know you are a good wolverine fan and not a fanboy soi will give you that since i dont really know much about berserk wolverine and you know more then me about the character

but overall my point is that without x powers his skills overall are not good at all

Originally posted by buenokid
and in his fight vs x he didnt need anything of it since he just owned x right ahead like nothing

all thet Things you said about berserk wolverine that he is more skilled that way and thinks faster and better at everything i tellyou what i know you are a good wolverine fan and not a fanboy soi will give you that since i dont really know much about berserk wolverine and you know more then me about the character

but overall my point is that without x powers his skills overall are not good at all

Based off a pis showing which ignored the fact he trained himself against such an attack.......yes awesome evidence. Oh and your other evdience is him losing to berserker wolverine same berserker wolverine who stalemated psylocke who current a monster.....yes clearly that makes him not skilled......rediculousness of your comments.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And M-11 is a robot with a self-repairing healing factor, force fields and vast superhuman strength. Before you start talking shit for losing to him maybe you should put down your copy of Red Hulk, and read some Agents of Atlas.

Clearly you have no concept of what Wolverine's Berserker Rage is. Wolverine doesn't hate his Berserker Rage and fight it with every waking moment with every fiber of his being because it makes him sloppy and weak, he strives to remain in control because it makes him too good. Berserker Wolverine is the perfect killing machine, created perfect by nature and improved upon by science. He thinks much faster, he moves much faster, he's much stronger, and he is more skilled. He is the best there is at what he does.

Berserker Wolverine is what fighters and strive for when they tireless train for years and years for the right combat responses to become second nature to them, an unconscious reaction floating around in the subconscious, only its not second nature to Wolverine, its first nature. Every fiber of Wolverine's being is screaming at him to fight and kill at every second of every day. Fundamentally is the same as Sabretooth except Logan spends his every waking hour trying to control his instincts, where as Creed just allows them to do their business. Wolverine hasn't traveled the world to learn every martial art disciple to become a better fighter - he never needed too he was a great fighter by design - he's done it to gain some measure of control and self discipline, so he can keep the beast caged. And thats how he fights people the majority of the time, using his immense will power to hold of the beast, while he ignores everyone of his instincts and fights with some measure of restraint. Berserker Wolverine is completely uncaged, fulling giving into the instincts Wolverine ignores normally, and so far as killing is involved his instincts are always right.

The Berserker Rage is weeks of combat compressed into minutes. It is the equivalent of a gymnast preforming a gold medal routine while simultaneously beating two super computers at chess. It is an unstoppable force of nature created only to kill and its the best there is at what it does. The only down side to the Berserker Rage is that he will kill indiscriminately.

Not that I necessarily disagree with what you said, but my god you sound like a raging fanboy.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he own spiderman as well............

Based off a pis showing which ignored the fact he trained himself against such an attack.......yes awesome evidence. Oh and your other evdience is him losing to berserker wolverine same berserker wolverine who stalemated psylocke who current a monster.....yes clearly that makes him not skilled......rediculousness of your comments.

you are quoting my answer to srank asif i was talking to you but i gave that answer to srank, youon the other hand are too retarded to see what i already explained , x is a crappy fighter because once you get pass him mind reading he is a loser and even when he is able to read his oponnents mind see what luke cage did to him 😘

Originally posted by Mindset
Not that I necessarily disagree with what you said, but my god you sound like a raging fanboy.

Originally posted by buenokid
you are quoting my answer to srank asif i was talking to you but i gave that answer to srank, youon the other hand are too retarded to see what i already explained , x is a crappy fighter because once you get pass him mind reading he is a loser and even when he is able to read his oponnents mind see what luke cage did to him 😘

Originally posted by Battlehammer
lol, what he saids very accurate.

Originally posted by Mindset
I didn't say it wasn't.

Originally posted by buenokid
damn you are 1 retarded f^ck do i need to explain myself again idiot? fine i will just for your halfbreed **** mind of yours

Originally posted by buenokid
berserk wolverine while in berserk state doesnt have any better skills

Really now
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6093/berserkerragedg2.jpg

Originally posted by buenokid
he is just more vicious and out for the kill and psylocke completely owned him and beat this berserk out of him as we saw are that blind and retarded to see what happened in that fight?

Originally posted by buenokid
[B]listen idiot i already adresed the part that x got hit from the side but it doesnt matter since after he got the first hit with the elbow by nuke he was suppose to counter the next hit or avoid it but he could do thatif he was skilled enough while nuke continue to punch him again and again and step on his face he lost that fight and got humiliated can you look at the f^ckin pictures? can you see x get beat down like a dog? if not then go and buy some glasses moron, and i dont buy thatexcuse that he couldnt read nukes mind because he was suppose to beskilled enough totake on that idiot

Originally posted by buenokid
which he couldnt and he wasnt choking him no one knows how effective was that so called choke you didnt see nuke choking out or anything he wasnt even hurt x was just hanging on him

Originally posted by buenokid

and that robot is nothing more then a vacum cleaner and if he is so powerful then prove it you son of a whore i spit on youprove it

Why should I prove it? How about you actually read a comic with him in it an stop talking out your ass?

well battlehammer all i got to say is .... THANK YOU , i was a big mister x fan as you maybe remember in one of my acounts i used to defend him and gorgon in every chance and was arguing in there favor but after recent mister x showings i was kinda mad at what happened and going true all these threads stating that he is pathetic i wanted someone to clear that for me and you did it you showed me that he is the bad ass i saw him always and those fights really were PIS so thank you

Originally posted by buenokid
well battlehammer all i got to say is .... THANK YOU , i was a big mister x fan as you maybe remember in one of my acounts i used to defend him and gorgon in every chance and was arguing in there favor but after recent mister x showings i was kinda mad at what happened and going true all these threads stating that he is pathetic i wanted someone to clear that for me and you did it you showed me that he is the bad ass i saw him always and those fights really were PIS so thank you

How is this 7 pages? Spider-man can move 5ft before X can even move 1in. Even if X knows what Spidey is going to do he would be defenseless to stop it. Hell, it is in character for X to initiate attacks too. Spidey dodges and counters after X is left wide open.

stop spamming nonsense

Originally posted by psycho gundam
stop spamming nonsense

How is this 7 pages? Spider-man can move 5ft before X can even move 1in. Even if X knows what Spidey is going to do he would be defenseless to stop it. Hell, it is in character for X to initiate attacks too. Spidey dodges and counters after X is left wide open.

Where is the nonsense and where is the spam?

Originally posted by h1a8
How is this 7 pages? Spider-man can move 5ft before X can even move 1in. Even if X knows what Spidey is going to do he would be defenseless to stop it. Hell, it is in character for X to initiate attacks too. Spidey dodges and counters after X is left wide open.

Really based on what would make you think for one that X would not know? You said even implying you don't think he would know.....what you gunna try and tell me spiderman mind would be unreadable now? I not be surprised in the least your first statement was that spiderman moves 69 times faster then Mister X which is utterly rediculous.......were do you come up with this.......

X may attack first he may not, it won't matter anyways. Really X the trained faster who almost a master if not a master of ever fighting style on the planet plus alien martial arts who automacticly locks onto the brain patter of his opponents and has the ability to read there mind is going to be the one who leaves them self open..........yea that make complete senses......... 🙄

Originally posted by h1a8
How is this 7 pages? Spider-man can move 5ft before X can even move 1in. Even if X knows what Spidey is going to do he would be defenseless to stop it. Hell, it is in character for X to initiate attacks too. Spidey dodges and counters after X is left wide open.

Or so Peter thought until he impales himself on X`s sword. "Oh maybe I should have taken those lessons Cap offered meee.... *"

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Spider-man doesn't really have a significant speed edge over any top tier street. I mean, sure, he's faster... but in about the same way that $10.10 is more money than $10. Virtually all of Peter's top speed feats have been replicated or failing that matched with an equally impressive feat by Marvel's best MAs. It's Spider-man's spider-sense that edges him out against people in the same speed ball park as him, and that is more than negated by X's telepathy.

Originally posted by namorsubby
these top teir's ma abilities are what make up for the gap in speed, which is actually not that small if you account for what spidey does on a regular basis. sure, every peak human/slightly enhanced grade a or b martial artists will have a few instances of extreme speed feats, along a couple more reoccuring instances of......let's say, dodging or deflecting pointblank gunfire......but for spidey pointblank gunfire is a walk in the park, and lasers, missles, and other things are not so uncommon. he has showings against MA guys that are pretty bad, but many times it's been shown that when properly motivated(ie extremely ticked), he can easily wipe the floor with them. Spidey's a CIS handicapped character 90% of the time.....it's his personality, but we know that when completely uninhibited by his own easy does it approach, he is indeed more formiddable and dangerous than most any street level or even low meta character

👆

Originally posted by namorsubby
t properly motivated(ie extremely ticked), he can easily wipe the floor with them.

This idea that an angry spiderman is a better one for all types of fights is simply not right. He better against certain individuals, but against highly skill fighter with very tactical minds, spiderman being angry just makes him sloppier, and either to manipulate,not to mention he ignores/pays ateention less to he best attribute his spidersenses, becuase he to focused on attack

Originally posted by namorsubby
Spidey's a CIS handicapped character 90% of the time.....it's his personality, but we know that when completely uninhibited by his own easy does it approach, he is indeed more formiddable and dangerous than most any street level or even low meta character

please lets here some examples