CIS-less: Flash vs. Silver Surfer vs. Superman vs. Thor

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus9 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
I've been going back and forth with that as well. While it's true that Wally certainly has the speed to strike first, he isn't just fighting Thor here, he also has Supes and Surfer to think about -- thus he likely wouldn't have much time to spend on a single opponent. That said, I'm hard-pressed to see Wally KO'ing Thor before Thor unleashed an omni-attack similiar to this:

...Or at bare minimum, put up some type of defensive shielding. *shrugs*

That is a good point. With fast and durable opponents such as Norrin and Clark, he wouldn't be able to focus on Thor alone. I think an attack like this would be even more effective:

^ Those'd work too. 😛

I just posted the scan I did, because it shows Surfer (a combatant in this thread) and Warlock being owned by said omni-blast. 😄

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Those'd work too. 😛

I just posted the scan I did, because it shows Surfer (a combatant in this thread) and Warlock being owned by said omni-blast. 😄

Good man. Thor's omnidirectional attacks are really badass.

So Galan, how do you think Sentry vs. Thor is going to turn out next week?

^ Even though I am certain Sentry will be stopped before this event is over, I have a gut feeling that Thor won't be the one to do it.

🙁

CIS-less Flash FTW

Infinity mass punch, picosecond speedblitz, speed steal.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Even though I am certain Sentry will be stopped before this event is over, I have a gut feeling that Thor won't be the one to do it.

🙁

Yea so do I. It's weird, Sentry fans are expecting Thor to beat down Sentry while the Thor fans are expecting Sentry to beat down Thor. I guess the different fan bases are preparing themselves for the worst.

I want Thor to beat the utter shit out of Reynolds while his using all of the power of the Sentry, and when Thor thinks his won, Reynolds should come back as the Void and take the advantage. That way everyone would be happy.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I want Thor to beat the utter shit out of Reynolds while his using all of the power of the Sentry, and when Thor thinks his won, Reynolds should come back as the Void and take the advantage. That way everyone would be happy.
I like it. 👆

Generally in these types of threads when you have people similar in power level in 3 person plus battle I'll give to the most versatile in the group unless there is a major weakness somewhere for that person.

I generally do this because in situations like this it is generally the most versatile person that is best suited to adapt to any number of foes that attack them or to best survive scenarios because their versatile enough to do so.

My problem here though is while Surfer imo is the most versatile overall. Thor in a CIS free environment is almost as versatile with a magic edge.

Plus on another note I believe Thor's magically powered super attacks some shown already have the best chance of taking people out as quickly as possible.

Flash's speed will pose a problem but I feel in essence he lacks the oomph needed here to be the clear cut majority winner.

Superman obviously is powerful but has ready to exploit weaknesses.

Surfer physical stats just aren't enough to match Thor's in a straight up fight and he doesn't have enough of a versatility edge for me to give it to him.

So I think Thor is the clear cur majority winner here because he is still extremely versatile with a lot bang as well.

Those attacks wont work on Wally. He can move through them and most of all, he can steal the KE of everyone on the field and their attacks.

Originally posted by Galan007
I like it. 👆

I'm a better writer than current Loeb.

The sheer and multi-faceted power of a CIS-less Surfer is beyond mortal ken. Victory is likely his.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Those attacks wont work on Wally. He can move through them and most of all, he can steal the KE of everyone on the field and their attacks.
a.) It takes time for Flash to speed-steal, b.) I have an extremely hard time believing he'd be absorbing the KE of his opponents' energy attacks. none

Like I said earlier, with his attention having to be divided between 3 very powerful beings, I don't feel that Wally would be able to cause the damage required to down each one of them, before he himself was one-shotted.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm a better writer than current Loeb.
😂 Your stories actually make sense.

Originally posted by Mindship
The sheer and multi-faceted power of a CIS-less Surfer is beyond mortal ken. Victory is likely his.

Luckily Thor is an immortal. 😉

Originally posted by Galan007
😂 Your stories actually make sense.

Yea, Loeb is horrible nowadays. He single handedly made the Ultimate Universe unreadable in like a few issues.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea, Loeb is horrible nowadays. He single handedly made the Ultimate Universe unreadable in like a few issues.

Good thing it ended.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Luckily Thor is an immortal. 😉
😂 Congrats. I didn't think anyone would notice.

Originally posted by Mindship
😂 Congrats. I didn't think anyone would notice.

💃

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Luckily Thor is an immortal. 😉

Is he?

Originally posted by 753
Good thing it ended.

Nah, it's still going. Mark Millar is back so hopefully he'll make Ultimate Marvel readable again.

My god, Ultimate Captain America is so badass.

His like the Midnighter of Marvel except cooler.

I think in a CIS free environment Surfer benefits the most. He's always holding back, always offered bad guys a second chance even during their fights, taking unnecessary hits, etc.

But I think if you're of the opinion that B&T Thor wasn't under Warrior's Madness and that that was what Thor is capable of when not holding back, you've gotta go with him to win this.

Otherwise, I'd pick Surfer. He's shown the speed/tracking/reactions/cosmic awareness to deal with the faster competition, plus has plenty of strength, plus has arguably the highest energy output here barring the Godblast.