Originally posted by galactusischere
Im going to wait untill I see Mr.Master's take on this.
As Thanos explains, the Infinity Being was the first and only being in any and all realities, possessing limitless power:
"It was all that was and all that was was it."
From the Infinity Being's suicide sprang the current Marvel Universe, and everything in it!
"From its ashes rose all that is currently reality, in all its many forms."
Further confirmation that the Infinity Being's suicide led to LT's birth comes in Heralds of Galactus #1, right here:
Notice the 'beings of great power' on the far right panel? One of them is the Living Tribunal and his three faces.
Nemesis was, basically, God before the Marvel Universe came into existence. A being with limitless power, whose self-inflicted death created the entirety of Marvel's reality, including LT. If these two actually fought, TOAA could interfere and grant him the power to defeat Nemesis, like he granted him the power to supersede the Gauntlet's power while Warlock had it. However, the MU generally goes by the law of survival of the fittest. Which is why the LT has been usurped before. Namely in the future against Protege.
So I don't see TOAA interceding on LT's behalf. Meaning that Nemesis takes the win. Barring TOAA's interference, she was the more powerful being.
That still doesn't mean that she is more powerful than the LT.
For example(s): Eternity created the celestials...yet some of them are even more powerful than he is. Galactus created Tyrant, yet Tyrant was his equal. Galactus created the UN, yet the UN is more powerful than him. Ivo created Amazo, yet Amazo is more powerful than Amazo.
Alien Entity didn't seem that impressive either and he performed the same feat IB did.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Infinity Being dying and releasing a part of her energy created the entire Marvel reality and everything in it. Including LT, Eternity, etc.Pretty powerful to me.
And she had to die. I know that she wanted to die, but there is still no evidence that she could create all reality without commiting suicide.
Originally posted by TheTyrantThat still doesn't mean that she is more powerful than the LT.
And let's not forget,
that the LT had to come as a direct representation of TOAA's power
in order to cash in the win.
Lastly, even the IG is not the complete power of the Infinity Being,
it needs the "Ego" Gem to complete itself,
although the IG is the bulk of its power but not fully,
the IG still makes one God beneath the representational power of TOAA.
Originally posted by TheTyrantFor example(s):
1. Eternity created the celestials...yet some of them are even more powerful than he is.
2. Galactus created Tyrant, yet Tyrant was his equal.
3. Galactus created the UN, yet the UN is more powerful than him.
2. Tyrant was never Galactus' true equal.
3. Who said Galactus created the UN?
No one knows for sure,
but I believe Eternity created the UN to protect himself against Abraxas,
and if not Eternity,
then the Infinity Being did it (more probable considering the UN's power)
to protect reality from collapse (Abraxas) if its baby (Galactus) died.
It really makes sense when we know the Infinity Being created Galactus,
and the UN is an aspect of Galactus.
Originally posted by TheTyrantIvo created Amazo, yet Amazo is more powerful than Amazo.
Originally posted by TheTyrantAlien Entity didn't seem that impressive either and he performed the same feat IB did.
So the AE is the unofficial embodiment of the power of creation
from the very beginning to the very end.
Ridiculously impressive. 🙂
Originally posted by TheTyrantPlus didn't she get killed by an ebony blade?
Nemesis, was struggling for control of itself with the now conscious Infinity Gems,
this made Nemesis vulnerable enough to have the Gems separated by the blade,
via a sneak attack. It's not like Black Knight confronted her and won.
Still stupid if you ask me but they had to defeat God somehow to end the arc.
*note*
Nemesis was still able to wipe out 616 and the Ultraverse with a wave of her hand.
(that's two Universes across two Multiverses) and still kept reality stable after obliterating 616.
When the Ebony Blade performed its PIS feat,
the waves that were released from Nemesis' being, were creating UniverseS back to back,
while even stacking them on top of one another.
In fact, this nearly collapsed the Omniverse.
(and it was the same Infinity Gems that were able to reverse this,
while re-creating the original set-up to fix everything) so it all involved Nemesis' power.
Originally posted by Scuzz2.0if nemesis was the one who created everything and came before everything, were does TOAA who is supposed to be god fit in? should he not have existed forever and created everything and if he didnt then he isnt god nemesis is.
TOAA is the representational avatars of the writers/artists of Marvel.
TOAA creates "reality" ... "omnipotence" ... "supreme beings" or what/whoever with the stroke of a pencil.
